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All you big bad 14-16 u coaches crack me up with the insulting of the 10u game. Then you want to talk about class in the same sentence. Do you think that just because someone's coaching or a parent that has a kid that's 10 then that's all the experience they have. I see it time and time again on here and its just dumb. I bet some of those teams in 10u could beat these big bad 14-16 u coaches teams.

In relation to the thread....either describe what happened and tell us who did what or the thread is nothing. No details...no description of what happened...nothing.

IMO, I didn't see any insults thrown at all. I completely understand their point! At 10U there are a lot of young parents, players, and coaches. All of whom want to "WIN" . Gotta love that; however, when you put winning in front of what is really important for the kids; all focus is impaired and lost. That's when things get a little out of hand. This happens more at the younger age groups and eventually gets better as the team grows older. Teach life lessons first and as a coach or parent; walk the talk! Teach integrity, respect, morals, & being humble. It's a GAME the KIDS are playing! Sooner or later the players will have to put down their bat & glove and begin a rough life of becoming an adult. Hopefully we have set good examples for them to share with their youth.
 
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This is really good stuff.. I was wondering when the 10U Vs 14-16u game will be held..

There was a post some time back when it showed each age bracket and how the parents developed. If someone has it or can post a link I think it would be helpful to the tread. emotions run high at every level but seems 10U always has the best stories..

Are we sure this was not a misunderstanding on the pitchers rise ball location?
 

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All you big bad 14-16 u coaches crack me up with the insulting of the 10u game. Then you want to talk about class in the same sentence. Do you think that just because someone's coaching or a parent that has a kid that's 10 then that's all the experience they have. I see it time and time again on here and its just dumb. I bet some of those teams in 10u could beat these big bad 14-16 u coaches teams.

In relation to the thread....either describe what happened and tell us who did what or the thread is nothing. No details...no description of what happened...nothing.

I don't think it's a big bad 14/16U coaches and insulting the 10U game. It's known as maturing. When my youngest was a simple 10U (maybe 11U) little girl, my oldest got the pleasure of subbing for CGS and Buckeye Heat. My oldest dd goes in on a Sunday and my mouth dropped saying why is she playing when's she's subbing. Parent looked at me and said, this is 16U, we know what our girls can do. We know that you're dd is faster than all of them. Therefore, she's helping us out in getting a bid.

Now as a 16U parent, I get what he is saying as I "matured" over the years.
 

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Hitter23 and Lewam made the comments about the 10 u parents/coaches etc. So in full disclosure I wasn't talking to you.

I know HItter23 your some great big bad 16u coach or whatever, you can spare me the details.

Trust me, these two are great guys. If anything lewam3 tries to keep me in check and I've "matured".....LOL
 

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There was a post some time back when it showed each age bracket and how the parents developed. If someone has it or can post a link I think it would be helpful to the tread. emotions run high at every level but seems 10U always has the best stories..

In a nut shell...10U ump calls strike three on a pitch at chin level he's been calling all day. Parents jump on ump. At 16U, same ump, same girl. Parents jump on girl because she should know he's been calling that pitch all day long. :D
 

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There continues to be a segment of parents who, for lack of a better description, are an embarrassment... Coaches, and Assistant Coaches, need to do a better job of monitoring the behavior of these individuals .

And then you say "The only complaint i have is with the coaches. What is going on here people? We had coaches yelling at players, yelling at umpires. When are we as parents going to step up and stop this"

Who's policing who?
 

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In a nut shell...10U ump calls strike three on a pitch at chin level he's been calling all day. Parents jump on ump. At 16U, same ump, same girl. Parents jump on girl because she should know he's been calling that pitch all day long. :D

Great post brownsfan... When your at the plate the only thing you control is whether you swing the bat or not.
 

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I don't think there is much of a difference between causing drama at the field, or causing it behind a computer. Other than the kids not seeing it. Though I find it to be greatly entertaining personally so keep going. Back when I played ball any drama that was caused at a field(which will never change always has always will be part of the game)was left at the field. All this does is stir up the drama for the next time the match takes place. Just saying.
 

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Well in that case that is over the top extreme which should in no way be tolerated! I was not directing it towards you just in general. I was not witness to it so that is ridiculous, but you do have to admit it can stir things up.
 

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My daughter is a 10u player at this tournament and saw the behavior from the sidelines and said that she would never want to play with a team like that one. So maybe that is how karma will eventually win this one. This is not an isolated incident with this team or coach. Of the three times I have seen them, two were ridiculous displays and one was not bad. The coach was as bad as the fans. Not to mention that their pitcher had an illegal pitch the entire tournament and not one umpire called it. She leapt off the ground at least 2-3 inches and replanted every pitch. Hey, bretman, why do the umpires not call illegal pitches?
 

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bman----I'd like to know what team you are referring to here? If it's the Jackson Royals you need to get better information before you chime in. My team has accepted apologies for this incident and moved on. 3 other organizations that saw what happened, as well as the TD said we handled the situation very well. Once direct derogatory comments were being yelled at our players from the opposing team parents/fans, we had a parent stand up for the kids and ask that is stop immediately. We can't be involved in a game when clueless fans/parents are directly yelling at the opposing players. I coach my kids hard and some people may not like that, but I can't imagine anything but positive things coming out of our coaches/parents/fans mouths in regards to any opposing teams. Anyone that knows our team knows that, and 99% of the people out there are the same way. This was an isolated incident in a heated game that I am sure will be fixed by the organization at fault.
 

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Oh boy ... it just never ends ... now comes the accusation of illegal pitches ... I will bet this was yelled out a bunch of times by the fans as well ... guess I will just sit back and get some popcorn ...
 

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We have faced this pitcher many many times. She is a fantastic pitcher no doubt about it! She does no doubt pitch illegally, but if umpires are not going to call it then they are not gonna call it. Arguing will not fix it.
 

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I've heard that pitchers that replant do it because of a hitch in their arm through their arm circle. Is there any truth to that? Not trying to hi jack. Keep the other going it's pretty entertaining.
 
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I've heard that pitchers that replant do it because of a hitch in there through there motion. Is there any truth to that? Not trying to hi jack. Keep the other going it's pretty entertaining.

Not sure I'm sure it's not done intentionally. We had one of our pitchers that started doing it not intentionally she corrected it and lost about 2 miles per hour on her fast ball. So I do believe it does give an advatage on speed.
 

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I have seen this pitcher several times and know doubt it's an illegal pitch. In the end it's only hurting the player not to fix it. It's best to do it now when young than wait a few years when she's getting called for it IMO . It's about development of the player NOT winning!
 

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While this has been very entertaining to continue reading, I have decided to chime in. This is my second time through the age brackets and IN MY PERSONAL experience, 10u has been the worst to deal with as a coach. I believe this is mostly due to lack of knowledge of the actual rules and having the infamous "goggles" on. Nothing wrong with as it's just a growing pain. By 14u, they are too busy discussing which fields have the best walking tacos and how horrible the parking is at the site. By 18u, they are watching the clock to see if they have time to get to happy hour after the game. The point is that it gets easier as the parent and coach gets the years under their belt. I just love to watch the game. My DD has been done for three years and I just want one game back. She now coaches high school ball.

The age bracket discussion will always be there on who's the best. It was there my first time through. Just FYI from an old coach, you all drive me nuts. Sit down. Shut up and watch the game. Then and only then you will learn the game and realize that most of the time that you yelled, you were wrong and the next year you will look over and see another parent yelling from a younger division, shake your head, look over at another parent and say "must be a new 10u parent".
 

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The best way to act when opposing teams behave like this is; ignore the opposing team's behavior, let your bat's do the talking, and use the experience to teach player's this is how NOT TO behave. The coach of the team witnessing poor choices of the opposing team; is in a great position to lead by example with a positive display of integrity, character, and respect for the game!
 
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Thanks for clearing it up Liberal Lion. Although we are highly competitive, we will always respect our opponents. As I said before, we have accepted apologies from Thunder Elite and are moving on. I just hope something is being done within that organization to make sure this stuff doesn't happen again, because we will see this team many more times throughout the summer.
 
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