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Did a little research and it seems that this is the rule in most other states. If you qualifiy, you then play up in most cases.
ASA Tournament Explosive Fastpitch 2011 Fireworks Frenzy Metro Cleveland USA/ASA Tournament
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schedule? Thanks
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Yeah, let's get with it! Post that schedule.
Do you know how many good places to eat are in Strongsville? A lot! I need to plan my munchie runs...
Do you know how many good places to eat are in Strongsville? A lot! I need to plan my munchie runs...
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Rules from TD and Questions:
Placement in the elimination tournament will be determined by a random draw when the team manager checks in on day one. (So it doesn't matter if you go 2-0 or 0-2 in pool play no seeding?)
All pool games will have an 80 minute DROP DEAD time limit or 7 innings. No new inning will start after 70 minutes. Pool play games can end in a tie. (So revert to last full inning played if inning is not finished?)
Placement in the elimination tournament will be determined by a random draw when the team manager checks in on day one. (So it doesn't matter if you go 2-0 or 0-2 in pool play no seeding?)
All pool games will have an 80 minute DROP DEAD time limit or 7 innings. No new inning will start after 70 minutes. Pool play games can end in a tie. (So revert to last full inning played if inning is not finished?)
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Saw those rules ...
1) Right ... doesn't matter how you do in pool play ... a few other tournaments do it like that as well ... and I don't have an issue with it especially if it is a showcase.
2) When I see "drop dead", I assume that whatever the score is at the time is the final score, unless they specifically say "revert back" ... so, in other words, choose visitors if you win the flip! Don't like drop dead at all, revert back or not ... just asking for stall tactics ...
1) Right ... doesn't matter how you do in pool play ... a few other tournaments do it like that as well ... and I don't have an issue with it especially if it is a showcase.
2) When I see "drop dead", I assume that whatever the score is at the time is the final score, unless they specifically say "revert back" ... so, in other words, choose visitors if you win the flip! Don't like drop dead at all, revert back or not ... just asking for stall tactics ...
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I assume that HoO Explosion, Miami Valley Express, Tidal Waves (if that was the '94 team) and Ohio Classics Black are no longer in the tournament as they have earned their berths to USA/ASA Nationals.
Congrats to all those teams for their success.
Congrats to all those teams for their success.
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did we get pool play schedule yet?
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Schedule please!
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Agree except this is a National Qualifier. So if pool play games mean nothing then Drop Dead in Pool Play means nothing since they are not seeding for bracket play.
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Please update Tidalwaves entry to read Tidalwaves 95 to avoid confusion.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Pool play schedule will be sent out tonight.
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I agree with coach Murph, that is how ASA has done it in the past. It doesn't stop you from playing up but it locks you into ASA at the age limit . Couple of years ago a 12U played up in a 14U ASA event and won it and it locked them into 14U ASA, ( it didn't matter that they turned down the bid) but the team was planning on playing NSA-USSSA, so it didn't matter. The knew they didn't plan on going to ASA Nationals. I know Jim Clark- Johnnies recalls this conversation and post on OFC.
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anyone have field addresses yet? if not mistaken last year, there were at least two different locations used. 16u specifically.
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Woolfman - From the TD's email that contained the rules......
- Volunteer Park – 21410 W Lunn Road – Strongsville, 44149 Our main complex - Watts, Coyne, Kalinich, Stroemple, Farnsworth, and Cappy (10U, 12U, 14U) Youth fields (new in 2011) - across the street from Volunteer - fields 1,2,3 ? mile West of Prospect Rd
- Old Strongsville Rec – 21273 Drake Rd – Strongsville, 44149 Wood and Sprague fields. Less than a mile from Volunteer Park. (16U)
- New Strongsville Rec – 18100 Royalton Rd - Strongsville, 44136 Finley, Cross, and Rademaker fields. At the Strongsville Community Center. (18U)
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NO Gate or Parking Fees
Inquired & was told by TD that 16U could possibly play at any of the field locations ..
1. Volunteer Park - 21410 W Lunn Road - Strongsville, 44149
Our main complex - Watts, Coyne, Kalinich, Stroemple, Farnsworth, and Cappy
Youth fields (new in 2011) - across the street from Volunteer - fields 1,2,3
1/4 mile West of Prospect Rd.
2. Old Strongsville Rec - 21273 Drake Rd - Strongsville, 44149
Wood and Sprague fields. Less than a mile from Volunteer Park.
3. New Strongsville Rec - 18100 Royalton Rd - Strongsville, 44136
Finley, Cross, and Rademaker fields. At the Strongsville Community Center.
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Does anyone have anything else? I have not received anything as well.
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Pool schedule should be out tonight .. rules below ..
Explosive Fastpitch Fireworks Frenzy
July 1-3 2011
3 complexes - Strongsville Ohio
Directors
Jim Jones 216-276-2693 jjones@kichler.com
Steve Meilinger 440-343-2475 referee42@yahoo.com
General Tournament Information
1. The Tournament Directors reserve the right to change the tournament format at any time, due to weather or any unforeseen circumstances.
2. Game balls and umpires are provided, and admission is part of your entry fee. All parking is FREE.
3. Awards ? team and individual trophies will be awarded to 1st place teams. Trophies and medals will be awarded to 2nd place teams.
4. All teams must check in at tournament headquarters (at Volunteer Park) 60 minutes prior to their first game. All teams must have at least one ACE certified coach. At sign-in each team will be required to provide:
- Their ASA Sanction card
- Team Roster / Waiver form (provided with bracket info)
- Proof of Insurance
- Copies of birth certificates should be kept with the team
5. Explosive contacts ? in case of rain or tournament questions.
10U- 12U -14U: Volunteer Park
Jim Jones 216-276-2693 jjones@kichler.com
Steve Meilinger 440-343-2475 referee42@yahoo.com
16U: Old Rec fields (all)
Gary Mundson 216-702-7184 MUNDCARS@aol.com
Roby Kountz 216-538-4402 kkountz@countscontainer.com
18U: New Rec fields
Bob Pennell 216-970-0508 bobpennell@ymail.com
Lori Pennell loripennell@ymail.com
6. Refunds:
In the event of inclement weather refunds will be paid as follows:
3 or more games ? no refund
2 or more games ? $155 refund
1 game played ? $245 refund
0 games played - $335 refund
7. Weather Delays
In the event of weather delays games must be resumed at the exact point where it was suspended. Due to a tight schedule, games may be adjusted, and/or shortened to complete the tournament or get back on schedule.
8. We?ve added a College Showcase on Friday morning ? July 1st
Please check ExplosiveFastpitch.com for details.
Game Information
1. 4 game guarantee (2 pool games, and then the double elimination tournament)
2. Placement in the elimination tournament will be determined by a random draw when the team manager checks in on day one.
3. All teams must be available to play on Friday July 1st.
4. Games in some age groups will begin at 1:30PM ? July 1st.
5. 10 of our 14 fields have 200? fences. All Championship games will be played with 200? fences.
6. Pitching distances:
35? for 10U
40? for 12U &14U
43? for 16U & 18U
Tournament Rules
1. ASA Rules will govern all play.
2. All pool games will have an 80 minute DROP DEAD time limit or 7 innings. No new inning will start after 70 minutes. Pool play games can end in a tie.
3. Double Elimination (Championship Play) games will follow ASA rules. No new inning will start after 1 hour and 40 minutes. In the event of a tie, an international tie breaker will be used. The last batter from the previous inning will be placed on 2nd base. This will be done to settle all games on the field. All Championship games will be 7 innings (no time limit).
4. A coin toss will determine the home team for all games.
5. The winning team will be asked to report results at the main scorers table at Volunteer Park.
6. Scheduled game time is forfeit time (no grace period). We also ask all teams to be prepared to play at least 20 minutes early in the event that the previous games ends early.
7. No warm-ups are permitted on the field. Teams can warm-up in foul territory.
8. Pitchers are allowed 5 warm-ups to start the game and one between innings.
9. Mercy Rule: 15 after 3 innings, 10 after 4 innings, 8 after 5 innings.
10. Foul language, intentionally throwing equipment and other displays of extreme poor sportsmanship is grounds for automatic ejection from the game and the premises.
As consideration for being permitted to play in the Frenzy tournament, each team agrees to to and does release the Explosive Fastpitch organization and teams, The City of Strongsville, and the tournament organizers and umpires from any and all liability for any accident or injury occurring in connection with the tournament. Each coach agrees that they have advised the adults and the parents of all minor associates with his/her teamof the release and that they all have agreed to it.
Payment of the entry fee constitutes total acceptance of all ASA and tournament rules by all team coaches and players.
11. As per ASA rules, 9 players will bat, and a Flex / DP is allowed.
12. Courtesy runners are allowed for pitchers and catchers. Runners must be bench players ? and can not include the flex or DP.
13. Metal cleats are not allowed in 10U, 12U, or 14U.
ASA Bid Details
This is the 2011 ASA Metro Cleveland USA/ASA Tournament
Winners receive bid to the USA/ASA ?A? tournaments as follows:
10U @ Johnson City, Tennessee 12U @ Montgomery, Alabama
14U @ Midland, Texas 16U @ Chattanooga, Tennessee 18U @ Normal, Illinois
All Participants are eligible to attend ASA Eastern ?A? National
Tournaments as follows:
10U, 12U, 16U @ Salem, Virginia 14U @ Sterling, Virginia 18U @ York, PA
Facilities
Tournament Brackets and maps will be completed and distributed June 27th
Our facilities are as follows:
1. Volunteer Park ? 21410 W Lunn Road ? Strongsville, 44149
Our main complex - Watts, Coyne, Kalinich, Stroemple, Farnsworth, and Cappy
Youth fields (new in 2011) - across the street from Volunteer - fields 1,2,3
? mile West of Prospect Rd.
2. Old Strongsville Rec ? 21273 Drake Rd ? Strongsville, 44149
Wood and Sprague fields. Less than a mile from Volunteer Park.
3. New Strongsville Rec ? 18100 Royalton Rd - Strongsville, 44136
Finley, Cross, and Rademaker fields. At the Strongsville Community Center.
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ok, I have to ask.. if you are playing pointless pool games that are drop dead at 80 minutes then why do you even have a rule that no inning starts at 70 minutes??? This makes absolutley NO sense!! so you dont want to start an inning you cant finish...... because somehow that would not be fair........in a game that doesn't mean anything anyway..... and if you dont finish the game before 80 minutes, then they are still going to stop it and it still does not mean anything!!
So here is my question without any pointed sarcasm... why not just have 80 minute drop dead times??
So here is my question without any pointed sarcasm... why not just have 80 minute drop dead times??
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Wonder where all the 12u teams went. Thers are 12 listed and only 7 remain, so we play 2 different xplosive teams in pool play, not that it matters for bracket play anyways.
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One 12u already won the bid and 2 or 3 others dropped out. Sorry for the low number of teams.
