Parents sue school over haircut policy

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The more I read, the more I stand. If the rules state all boys must have multi-colored mohawks, then either you get a multi-colored mohawk, or you don't join the TEAM. Yes, I capitalized that. Maybe the athletic director is making a point by stating, on away games, we will be well groomed young men. We will look respectable. There's nothing wrong with that.

So, since I didn't want my haircut when I went to boot camp, I get to go sue Uncle Sam?

 

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So, since I didn't want my haircut when I went to boot camp, I get to go sue Uncle Sam?

I'm surprised someone hasn't tried it already. Maybe you could still do it. You could blame any misfortunes in life that you have experienced in life so far on that. You were probably traumatized, right?

 

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The s o c c e r team going to practice.

Oh wait, that's North Korea not America. LOL

 

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Those are conscripts - huge difference. At my company we have dress code and grooming standards too. Since we are a service company a professional image is important. Would you want a Charles Manson look-a-like coming into your home or business to perform professional services? Probably not. If somebody doesn't like that policy they don't have to work here.

 

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Those are conscripts - huge difference. At my company we have dress code and grooming standards too. Since we are a service company a professional image is important. Would you want a Charles Manson look-a-like coming into your home or business to perform professional services? Probably not. If somebody doesn't like that policy they don't have to work here.

No, not conscripts. They look like it but they are students in school uniforms. (with hair cut) LOL

 

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No, not conscripts. They look like it but they are students in school uniforms. (with hair cut) LOL

The shoes don't match the uniforms too well though.

 

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Just wait until someone brings religion or culture into the debate. Some folks look at Troy Polamalu and can't stand his hair. His hair is a culture thing. Even though I'm not a Steelers fan, he seems like a stand up, well spoken level headed guy. These rules are all about stereotypes. "Clean Cut Image" <----- Stereotype if I ever heard one. A hair cut does not make the man. With that being said, it is a team rule, not the law of the land. If the team says short hair, then short hair it is.

 

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Just wait until someone brings religion or culture into the debate. Some folks look at Troy Polamalu and can't stand his hair. His hair is a culture thing. Even though I'm not a Steelers fan, he seems like a stand up, well spoken level headed guy. These rules are all about stereotypes. "Clean Cut Image" <----- Stereotype if I ever heard one. A hair cut does not make the man. With that being said, it is a team rule, not the law of the land. If the team says short hair, then short hair it is.

That seems to be the consensus, if it's a rule than it should be followed. Do you think it's a stupid rule?

I have posed the questions several times but everyone so far as avoided it. What if it was a school rule that all school athletes must have blonde hair because that's the image they wanted to project. Would you still say if the team says blonde hair then blonde it is? I could come up with even dumber rules.

Troy is a good example of how your hair doesn't affect your play. Tom Brady is another. Plenty of examples in all sports.

Many try to deflect the issue but comparing it to things like work or military. Yea a clean cut image is important in my field of work and many others. It is not in sports. Tom Brady will probably win the Super Bowl next month with long hair. If not him it will be the Chicago Bears with guys like Devin Hester and his long locks. It doesn't compare so don't deflect. Be brave, admit you don't think it's a stupid rule. Point out how it affects their ability on the field or how it doesn't but you don't care it should be a rule anyway and your idea of a clean cut image should be imposed on others.

Then again I don't think it's anything to sue over either, I'd cut and play (didn't when I was in school). Maybe bltch slap the coach at the end of the season my senior year.

 

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So you're not in favor of rules like this because you're supporting the schools with your tax dollar, but "hope they win" so someone else can pay for the legal costs and any settlement out of their tax dollar?

 

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The family will definitely lose the lawsuit, as there isn't even a right to be on the team, let alone be on the team and have long hair.

The problem is that we have government schools and it confuses the issue because we understand that the government would not normally be able to tell us how to wear our hair*. But when one chooses to be part of a an activity within the government, whether that be the military, police or a high school sports team, you forfeit some freedoms that you would otherwise enjoy.

* Hair panels are not part of Obamacare as far as I know, but nothing would surprise me.

 

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That seems to be the consensus, if it's a rule than it should be followed. Do you think it's a stupid rule?

I have posed the questions several times but everyone so far as avoided it. What if it was a school rule that all school athletes must have blonde hair because that's the image they wanted to project. Would you still say if the team says blonde hair then blonde it is? I could come up with even dumber rules.

Troy is a good example of how your hair doesn't affect your play. Tom Brady is another. Plenty of examples in all sports.

Many try to deflect the issue but comparing it to things like work or military. Yea a clean cut image is important in my field of work and many others. It is not in sports. Tom Brady will probably win the Super Bowl next month with long hair. If not him it will be the Chicago Bears with guys like Devin Hester and his long locks. It doesn't compare so don't deflect. Be brave, admit you don't think it's a stupid rule. Point out how it affects their ability on the field or how it doesn't but you don't care it should be a rule anyway and your idea of a clean cut image should be imposed on others.

Then again I don't think it's anything to sue over either, I'd cut and play (didn't when I was in school). Maybe bltch slap the coach at the end of the season my senior year.

I think some dumb rules exist to teach discipline.

 

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That seems to be the consensus, if it's a rule than it should be followed. Do you think it's a stupid rule?

I have posed the questions several times but everyone so far as avoided it. What if it was a school rule that all school athletes must have Blondie hair because that's the image they wanted to project. Would you still say if the team says blond hair then blond it is? I could come up with even dumber rules.

Whether or not the rule is dumb is nothing more than a matter of opinion. What do you think about a HS football team that the coach says everyone who plays must shave their head? We have a pee-wee league that requires this to play for them, but it is the best developmental team in our area.

If the coach said die your hair blond, these kids would do it if they wanted to play. Simply because the coach makes the rules and spending a couple months with Blond hair is nothing compared to the benefit they will receive by playing for him.

As a HS coach or AD, they are responsible for the presentation of their players as they reflect directly upon the school. If they decide that there will be a "clean-cut" look presented by their players, then they have every right to make that decree. If you do not want to follow those rules, then maybe you're not the team player you should be.

Musty you can twist this any way you like and make all kind of ridiculous examples, but it doesn't change the fact that it is nothing more than a hair cut. If they wanted these kids to swear allegiance to God, Mohammad, Zeus, etc.. than I would have an issue. Team unity and discipline are the lessons here, some folks just don't get that.

 

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According to the lawsuit, coach Stacy Meyer wanted both the high school and junior high teams to have a ?clean-cut? image which is why they have to keep their hair above their ears, eyebrows, and collar.

The school added that hairstyles that ?create problems of health and sanitation, obstruct vision, or call undue attention to the athlete? are all reasons for dismissal from the team.

I can only ask myself this... is this reverse discrimination and can fall under " Title 9 ".

If long hair in SPORTS creates problems of health and sanitation, obstruct vision, etc.... then WHY are girls allowed to have such

Should not the girls be "ordered" to cut their hair under these same school policies.. especially if health and sanitation is part of the reason for their policy?

 

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Whether or not the rule is dumb is nothing more than a matter of opinion. What do you think about a HS football team that the coach says everyone who plays must shave their head? We have a pee-wee league that requires this to play for them, but it is the best developmental team in our area.

If the coach said die your hair blond, these kids would do it if they wanted to play. Simply because the coach makes the rules and spending a couple months with Blond hair is nothing compared to the benefit they will receive by playing for him.

As a HS coach or AD, they are responsible for the presentation of their players as they reflect directly upon the school. If they decide that there will be a "clean-cut" look presented by their players, then they have every right to make that decree. If you do not want to follow those rules, then maybe you're not the team player you should be.

Musty you can twist this any way you like and make all kind of ridiculous examples, but it doesn't change the fact that it is nothing more than a hair cut. If they wanted these kids to swear allegiance to God, Mohammad, Zeus, etc.. than I would have an issue. Team unity and discipline are the lessons here, some folks just don't get that.

I get it and your wrong. A kid doesn't get to choose his public school, Not right to say a kid has go through his school years with short hair, a shaved head, dyed hair or whatever because a coach isn't smart enough to instill team unity and discipline any other way. That is a coach taking the lazy way out. No work or thought on their part, just tell the team to cut their hair and be done. How easy for the coach. Yet many teams have unity and discipline without requiring their players have short hair or all be blonde with blue eyes. Teams have gone on to be state champs having players with long hair. Smarter coaches.

And you deflect by comparing rec to school. If you don't want to shave your head for one pee wee team, go to another. Kids have choices. Not they way in school, you can't go play for another school. Rec isn't supported by tax dollars like schools are. I think it's wrong for a tax dollar supported team being able to force their lifestyle choice on another for no good reason. Unity and discipline are not good reasons as history shows they can be accomplished other ways. Apples and oranges, why even bring it in?

 

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I give up! You win Musty.

Let all the kids grow their hair, not bathe, cut class, screw setting any GPA standards, let's just throw all the rules out that people don't like. It will all work out, right?

 

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I give up! You win Musty.

Let all the kids grow their hair, not bathe, cut class, screw setting any GPA standards, let's just throw all the rules out that people don't like. It will all work out, right?

That's all I wanted to hear. LOL

But Really, length of hair isn't in the same league as cutting class, not bathing or getting decent grades. And yes, we should throw the rules out that we don't like. That is our history. Thank God.

 

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Sorry I totally disageree must. Teams should have rules and policies and when you decide to make the team you decide to abide by these policies regardless of your personal view on them. The same way you agree to the rules of the airports when you buy a plane ticket. If you don't like the rules go greyhound and don't play.

You have a choice and it is to not participate pretty simple.

You are wrong,simple.

 

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I disagree. This has nothing to do with public schools and the funding of athletics. I've experienced plenty of teams & organizations that have rules regarding appearance. While I personally don't like the coach regulating his teams appearance, it certainly isn't violating anyone's rights.

The team is publicly funded. The coach has no right to impose his petty beliefs on the players. The coach should quit or be fired. No games should be played until he does.

 

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I think some dumb rules exist to teach discipline.

One dumb rule I can think of is the right to hire a lawyer and sue the **** out of someone who is violating your rights.

 

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So your issue is just hair? It is ok to have rules about what they wear when they aren't even playing, but no rules about the length of their hair? That doesn't seem to make much sense.

I pay my taxes which go to the schools and support programs I don't even go watch, let alone have my kids participating in....if I don't like how the taxes are spent, I vote out the board members, I don't sue the school system....

The reason for a lawsuit is very simple. Time. The coach assumes he can get away with his childish behaviour because the season will be over soon and he can be a jerk for another year. A lawsuit with an injunction against playing brings the case to the fore. What if the rule was that all players run 10 laps around the gym every day with the slowest to be beaten with bats by the rest of the team? Certainly would promote the desire to run up and down the court much more quickly.