Rank Em! Always Fun!

[Passion4theGame]

NO. Original thread post was list top organizations since tryout season is coming up. This thread got all off topic.

 

[Bill blank]

Well there was a storm that came through lol. So no.. temporary fencing might not last but everyone is there when possible to fix what needed fix. The portapotty was the park. They were suppose to have plenty and had an issue with it last minute. Next year is WAY less teams. Only the top just to keep everyone happy and allow college coaches to watch the best!

Keep doing what you do Emma you do a great job

 

[tjsmize3]

@tjsmize3 ,
My apologizes for your misunderstanding..

I think you are a little confused and putting words in my mouth.

I am part of a solid Organization that's been around for over 18yrs. They have not made it this long by accident. Great Org leader and solid coaches. Add in great Athletes and Families and you make it 18 plus years.
We have past coaches that are now college coaches. We have several hundred athletes that have been blessed to play at the next level while securing their degree. We may be small and nothing to you but every Athlete gets attention top to bottom in our Organization probably just like in yours.


Hopefully clearing that up makes sense to you. Sorry for confusing you on that.

Lol, ok... it's on me. I am confused. I literally put your own words in my post, but it certainly isn't worth going back and forth about on here.
The ONLY point I really care to make about any of this is that if you want to RANK all of these orgs (many of which do not have the same goals or try to accomplish the same things or have the same overhead costs) you would have to do it on ROI. If any team, org, instructor, whatever... if anyone period provides a service for you that is worth the price you paid or better, then is it really truly any concern of yours how they organize their teams or how much money they are making or even how they make it (as long as it is legal of course). The OP asked for a ranking and you started talking about team fees and pigs and team sizes and telling us to beware. You didn't even add anything to the OP which was about RANKING orgs. Take a look at CARDS post... he gets it. Might have to argue that REDS RBI/UYA is the org in Ohio who provides the biggest bang for the buck. Put them #1 on my list!

 

[WWolff]

maybe I miss understood the question. I guess the org thread starter was talking about tournaments you played not tournaments you ran.

So in that case I would leave the Outlaws at number 1, 2 or three

Somebody drug that into it earlier.

 

[Fastpitch1414]

23 responses later and still no rankings. The original post was pretty simple. Just lump it all together in one big pot.....ALL OF IT, and provide the parents and players with your opinion on the groups listed or others and rank them for us. I am seeing all these important coaches and org leaders, and "super moderators", and long time veterans posting here but not a single list yet. If it's at all possible can you just put together a list for us less then educated parents who are hoping for the best and doing the research (like seeing other opinions on this list).

PLEASE! LOL

 

[WWolff]

23 responses later and still no rankings. The original post was pretty simple. Just lump it all together in one big pot.....ALL OF IT, and provide the parents and players with your opinion on the groups listed or others and rank them for us. I am seeing all these important coaches and org leaders, and "super moderators", and long time veterans posting here but not a single list yet. If it's at all possible can you just put together a list for us less then educated parents who are hoping for the best and doing the research (like seeing other opinions on this list).

PLEASE! LOL

Well in my opinion of Ohio based organizations the top 3 are Outlaws(Teams in OH,WV,&PA), Lasers, and Hawks.

Not trying to offend anyone as I stated before
it is my opinion, and lord knows I really don’t want to upset anyone


As always just comparing organizations with teams in most or all ages.


Their are other good orgs based outside of Ohio
Bandits- ILL
Finesse-MICH
Magic Gold-IND
Shockwaves-IND
Team PA-PA

 

[CARDS]

23 responses later and still no rankings. The original post was pretty simple. Just lump it all together in one big pot.....ALL OF IT, and provide the parents and players with your opinion on the groups listed or others and rank them for us. I am seeing all these important coaches and org leaders, and "super moderators", and long time veterans posting here but not a single list yet. If it's at all possible can you just put together a list for us less then educated parents who are hoping for the best and doing the research (like seeing other opinions on this list).

PLEASE! LOL

If you are looking for the "total" Ohio softball organizational package/experience including practice facilities, accredited coaching, player development from 8 to 18, very nice total yearly organization scholarship dollars and college commitments, teams that play most tournaments within 4 hours of Ohio or, in state... I would go with REDS RBI as I stated in an earlier post.
The REDS "like many clubs" draw talent from about 1 hr. radius's of Cincinnati for the stronger A level teams the B level around the 275 loop.
Now I always suggest visiting any organization since it is the best way to see what each organization has to offer.
I know the REDS RBI may be a little unfair to compare many other organizations since RBI players are eligible for other scholarship dollars outside of what many players would get from a university that makes their annual scholarship dollars much higher than a typical travel club. The REDS/Players also have the benefit of corporate sponsors to help with travel expenses and for some of the C/B teams fee reductions. The REDS also utilize Olympic/College/Pro players doing some clinics like a couple other travel organizations do. Here is my list of just Ohio clubs...
# 1 REDS RBI (Not saying they have the strongest teams in Ohio but the organization will check "all" the boxes including very competitive play in MLB WS for their A teams).
#2 Outlaws / Lasers Both Organizations have like 20+ teams around the state...Both organizations have lots of players moving on to the next level. Solid organizations well run with college connections playing in the best events available with their top teams. Some teams may have access to indoor training facilities and private instruction as part of fees like the REDS.
#3 Hawks / #3 1/2 Doom These two are also well known that play in some of the best invite invents available. Lots of ladies have went on to play at all levels of play from these organizations. Hawks and Doom did have training facilities as well last I heard.
IMO, The Hawks has an slight edge over Doom because of the number of teams one can tryout for with 3 or more at each age group and they some long time coaches that have coached at all levels of play...
#4 Stingrays IMO not as strong at the other 4 teams and may not be as strong as some not listed but, They have had their share of players go onto the next level and the organization runs one of the best tournaments in Ohio. They have at least one team in just about every age group. Not sure if the Organization has sponsors or training facilities. But looking at their website (it has not been updated in a while) it shows mostly an Ohio tournament schedule with one or two out of state events at the older ages 16-18.
#5 Classics while not a big organization compared to the others they have had some very competitive teams and also play in some top tier events to get players noticed. Not a lot of development opportunities but they do go out and attract the needed talent to be competitive.
#6 Wolfpack... while they have no teams at 8-10u they have 12u-18u representation for years. I always liked the Wolfpack hustle and they put on a good tournament.... Kool uniforms too...
#7 Ohio Thunder...While a newer organization they field teams in each age group. They draw players from about a 2 hr. radius of Mason Ohio so they must be doing something right...
#8 There are many one could put here...Lots of quality local teams/small organizations that want the best for their players.. They may not always play top tier events or travel 4+ hours for tournaments but their families and players enjoy each others company, have fun and help their local HS programs while giving ladies the chance to continue playing after HS. Heat, Storm, Xtream, Slammers, Lady Irish, Wizards, Road Runners just to name a few. OHIO is a large state and there are many great organizations that play a very high level of competition some with extensive travel not listed. The good thing is if a parent is just looking for local or less travel expenses etc. there are many teams available that can get that done in your area.
One caution I would say as we approach tryout season is, be a little weary of teams that tout "non parent coaches" as their organization accomplishments...
Not that they are bad many are good that have a track record and experience but a lot of these teams tend to not stay together long as they are mostly coached by newer younger ladies transitioning from college to coaching and they do tend to actually have more team finance issues, communication issues etc.