Ruling Question

[daytonfp]

Runner on first. Small popup to infield...runner freezes between 1st and 2nd. Fielder misses popup, picks up ball and throws to first. Batter/runner called safe at first. The runner who was on firsts continues to second. First baseman throws ball to second. Ball beats runner to second for a force out. Umpire calls runner safe stating it had to be a tag play...not a force. He maintained that if a play is made at first, regardless if the runner was called safe at first, the play is always a tag play at second. Is that correct??

I figured it would be a force out because the runner did not have the option to return to first because first was occupied by a runner.

Is this some obscure rule that is rarely called because the situation doesn't happen often or did the ump get it wrong?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[daytonfp]

Crap...I put this in the wrong place. Sorry.

 

[BretMan2]

Bad call. It's still a force out.

I know that a lot of false rule myths get circulated around, but this is a new one for me!

 

[daytonfp]

OK good....I think I was starting to loose faith in my entire understanding of the game after that one.

 

[dmcdaniel]

Wow! Please tell me this was middle school or lower?

 

[WWolff]

Crap...I put this in the wrong place. Sorry.

I think you can delte it and post it in proper section

 

[coachjwb]

I don't see any issue with posts like this asking about rules being in the general forum ...

While there are sometimes other sections that are more specific to some topics, I think the only ones that cause people heartburn if they're not in the right section are the teams looking for players and tournament listings ... just my opinion ...

 

[daytonfp]

It was a HS Varsity game.........

 

[wvanalmsick]

How many outs? If less than 2 outs, should the correct ruling have been batter out (Infield Fly Rule), runner safe at second because it would have required a tag in this scenario?

 

[Comp]

How many outs? If less than 2 outs, should the correct ruling have been batter out (Infield Fly Rule), runner safe at second because it would have required a tag in this scenario?

There is no infield fly rule with a runner only on 1st.

 

[Stedman00]

runner is out at second. force play was still in effect. Hard to believe an ump of a HS game is that inept.