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in the other sport not allowed to say on here so??er which my dd really likes to play in off season seen a referee throw all parents out of game and kids finished playing while parents were in parking lot
 
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Hard Call! I wasn't there. Can't say I condone the Blue going off on a player. But! then again we really don't know 100% what was actually said by her regardless of whether it was under the breath or not. But the Blue should have never ever allowed himself to make a public spectacle, that is very un-professional.

I will say this! Girls are emotional that is for sure I have 3 DD's and 1 grand DD and have coached girls Fastpitch for years along with Umpiring. But even with that said don't let their cute little faces fool you, Underneath it all they can be just as rude, cruel and mean as any Football Team. Quite Frankly! Girls can be demonic at times it's almost scary.:eek::eek::eek::eek:


FASTPITCH! Anything else, And you're playing to SLOW!
 
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I mostly just read, rarely post, I have to say I agree with this statement 100%. Umpires should try to have thicker skin and not take things so personally. lol


Baseball is different than softball and girls are different than boys. They play with their emotions, that is why there is alot of cheering in softball and none is baseball. Ladies tend to get really involved in a game and if you think they are not going to give you a comment or 2 under their breath, than you mustn't have a teenage daughter. I never condone disrespecting an umpire, but you are dealing with young girls here who are going to say things that they shouldn't. My advise to umpires like that, drop the rabbit ears or umpire baseball. You aren't doing the girls any good if you are tossing them for something as trivial as that. JMHO :)
 
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Bretman.. I think we was typing a post at the same time. Me at Post #19 and you at #20.

More than are you kidding me... and more than under her breath.

Yes, I was typing before seeing your post. Even then, there is no reason to "go off" on anybody. If somebody does something that warrants an ejection, just eject them and be done with it.
 
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Some people have the right temperment to be an effective umpire, some don't. Anyone that "loses it" because some kid mutters something under their breath might not have the right temperment!

I've had a couple of players (they were adults, not kids) and a few coaches use the "You've got to be kidding me" line before. All I did was give them an icy glare and ask them, quietly, in my best "mean old umpire" voice, "What do you think I'm kidding about?". No more problems.

If you can't handle the heat, maybe you shouldn't be out on the field.

Agree :D
 
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Yes, I was typing before seeing your post. Even then, there is no reason to "go off" on anybody. If somebody does something that warrants an ejection, just eject them and be done with it.

I've said the same thing all along.. I do not condone his action of going off... NEVER...EVER.

Just throw her out and go on with the game. I know what "friggen" is and you know what "friggen" is as well. She's history.
 
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99 percent of umpires i see at least have good intentions dont always agree with them but most have good intentions.the ones i really get upset with or really dislike are
1.the ones who want to put more of a focus on them than girls on field
2.the umpires with a god complex you cant argue anything.and i for one rarely(honestlt )ever get on an umpire they are there to do job but on 2 occasions have got really upset
1.the guy was making spectacle of himself
2.another ump would not release a call that he said the sentence he did not see.and still refused to release the call
 
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When was the last time you watched a college game or international game where you saw a batter go down looking and say a word to the ump? How about never? They sprint back to the dug out and get ready to play defense. They try to figure out what they did wrong by getting down by two strikes to begin with.

I do not condone an ump going off on a kid but, everyone on here knows that these guys and gals take way more abuse than they deserve. I've been coaching girls fastpitch for a lot of years and I can count on one hand how many times a bad call or bad strike zone has cost our team a game....

Resect the umps. You catch more flies with sugar than you do with s**t!

JMHO
 
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When was the last time you watched a college game or international game where you saw a batter go down looking and say a word to the ump? How about never? They sprint back to the dug out and get ready to play defense. They try to figure out what they did wrong by getting down by two strikes to begin with.

That is because they are not allowed to say ANYTHING to the umpire or automatic ejection. I believe it was Buckeyes versus Wisconsin I was watching last year. Buckeye batter gets plunked square on the forearm while trying to avoid a pitch. She starts jogging to 1st base and ump says foul ball. She turns and said and I quote "Sir, that ball did not hit my bat." Man you would have thought she cussed him out. Looked to me like he almost hurt himself as hard as he gave the sign that she was ejected. Everyone in the ballpark saw the ball bounce off her arm. And the replay showed it was not even close. But as announcers explained players are not allowed to talk to umps, only the coaches are. WOW.
 
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Well here is what we saw. This young lady was showing up ump for two day's. When pitching or batting. Something was said to her Saturday about it by ump. Think it finally boiled over after constant head shaking and back talking under her breath.

Also fan's from her team were out of control at times. One actually threatened to wait outside for umpire after tournament. Another tried getting them riled up talking about being an umpire and how horrible his strike zone was and how bad his calls were.


Our team felt umpires were very consistent in there strike zone and very fair. One thing in life you learn is you treat others as you want to be treated JMHO
 
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Our players and parents sign a conduct contract before they even play their first game of the season. That way, the players know that any comment to an umpire, under any circumstance will not be tollerated. If they break the rule about comments to umpires, they answer to the coach first and that could be worse than being tossed from a game. I umpired one game in my life and I'll never do it again. As much as I love the game, it's too brutal for me on that side.
I've seen some umpires that shouldn't be of a softball field of any kind, but we have to respect them while the game is in their hands. Wait till you get back to the hotel to blast the way they call the game. Makes for great coversation at Texas Roadhouse, over cheese fries & b:mad:r.
 
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From the PM's I received this morning, it sounds like she had a meltdown the very next inning. So obviously, she would of been better off tossed ... then to let her comments go by and held unaccountable.

But, under no circumstances should the umpire have yelled or even had a conference with her. Toss her and be done with it.

The word "friggen" will get you tossed as everyone knows what it is a word for. I just can't believe these parents really allow these girls to even say something like the word "friggen" when they know what it is slang for in the first place.

Umpires are getting worse maybe - because the good ones are saying the heck with this stuff.... and staying away from the girls game.

I'm telling you and all those umpires out there... In the coach's meeting at the plate... tell the coaches if you have to thrown out a fan.. you the coach go too.

It is aboslutely amazing the difference that will make in the enjoyment of a ball game by all.
 
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Well here is what we saw. This young lady was showing up ump for two day's. When pitching or batting. Something was said to her Saturday about it by ump. Think it finally boiled over after constant head shaking and back talking under her breath.

Also fan's from her team were out of control at times. One actually threatened to wait outside for umpire after tournament. Another tried getting them riled up talking about being an umpire and how horrible his strike zone was and how bad his calls were.


Our team felt umpires were very consistent in there strike zone and very fair. One thing in life you learn is you treat others as you want to be treated JMHO

That young lady was NEVER told anything by the umpire at all on Saturday!! Not sure where you got your info! She wasn't showing up anyone! The fans on all sides got a little huffy, he didn't have much of a zone!

I have no issue at all with him ejecting, talking to, reprimanding her for what she said if in fact she said frigging (which I have heard her say, so that is certainly possible). What I object to was him going off on her the way he did. DABOMB67, don't know who you are, but at least get the facts straight!
 
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The word "friggen" will get you tossed as everyone knows what it is a word for. I just can't believe these parents really allow these girls to even say something like the word "friggen" when they know what it is slang for in the first place.


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Ohioquakerman, she is not allowed to say friggen and I am constanly giving her the what for for it! But it gets said a lot in school and teachers let it go by! It has become a habit. Had I heard her say it to him, which Like I said I didn't hear it, I read her lips she would have heard it from me.

This topic was not whether or not she was right or wrong, but wheter the umpire handled it poorly. And I believe he did.
 
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This topic was not whether or not she was right or wrong, but wheter the umpire handled it poorly. And I believe he did.

Several of us on here have made the same statement that his actions were wrong, So what's your point?:confused:


FASTPITCH! Anything else, And you're playing to SLOW!
 
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It is not in any umpire's job description to go off on, or even reprimand a player. The ump should just toss the player if that is the case, go to the head coach and discuss why.

Sort of like a police officer reprimanding someone who is speeding. Their job is not to lecture you, give me the ticket and move on....
 
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When was the last time you watched a college game or international game where you saw a batter go down looking and say a word to the ump? How about never? They sprint back to the dug out and get ready to play defense. They try to figure out what they did wrong by getting down by two strikes to begin with.

I do not condone an ump going off on a kid but, everyone on here knows that these guys and gals take way more abuse than they deserve. I've been coaching girls fastpitch for a lot of years and I can count on one hand how many times a bad call or bad strike zone has cost our team a game....

Resect the umps. You catch more flies with sugar than you do with s**t!

JMHO

Thats the way to train young ladies to be recruitable to college coaches. We constantly instill in our young ladies to sprint back and not to give the pitcher the satisfaction of seeing thier emotion. Also sends a messege to ump that they respesct the game and his opinion...thus perhaps "getting" a call later in the game. It's the coaches job to "get in the ear" of the ump, an irate spectator isnt condusive to the next close call, going your way.
 
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We had one of our girls reprimanded by the same umpire the game before. I feel the ump could have tossed our girl for her actions. Instead, he did reprimand her in front of everybody. I guess the easy thing to do would have been to toss her out of the game and then people could have said, that changed the outcome of the game because Mr. Umpire thinks he's bigger than the game.
I personally respect this ump more for the way he handled the situation, because I say it is a lessoned learned for our player.
If it were my daughter, I would feel the same way. And yes, her and I would talk about it after the fact.
I did see and hear some of the second incident but it was from beyond left field fence.
 
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I think the temperment statement earlier was spot on. In any sports officials are going to have calls questioned, how they respond speaks volumes. It is a little off topic but funny. I was coaching a 6th grade girls basketball game yesterday. The officials had worked the city league championship the night before so they were pretty experienced.

The opposing teams coach questions a call in the 4th quarter. The official calmy explained the rule and why he made the call. The coach was not happy with the explanation and starts to get very vocal.

The official tells him "maybe instead of worring about my call you should go to a box and 1 because #14 is killing you.

The coach says "how dare you tell me how to do my job" and the official responds "why not you are telling me how to do mine" At this point the coach goes onto the court ears red and raising Heck, 2 techincals in 8 seconds and they were escorting the coach off the court.

Moral of the story....everyone has a job to do, stick to your own!
 
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I think the temperment statement earlier was spot on. In any sports officials are going to have calls questioned, how they respond speaks volumes. It is a little off topic but funny. I was coaching a 6th grade girls basketball game yesterday. The officials had worked the city league championship the night before so they were pretty experienced.

The opposing teams coach questions a call in the 4th quarter. The official calmy explained the rule and why he made the call. The coach was not happy with the explanation and starts to get very vocal.

The official tells him "maybe instead of worring about my call you should go to a box and 1 because #14 is killing you.

The coach says "how dare you tell me how to do my job" and the official responds "why not you are telling me how to do mine" At this point the coach goes onto the court ears red and raising Heck, 2 techincals in 8 seconds and they were escorting the coach off the court.

Moral of the story....everyone has a job to do, stick to your own!


That's awesome!! :lmao::lmao:
 

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