update on masks that do the opposite of what you think....

Discussion in 'Non Softball' started by DanMaz, Dec 23, 2020.

  1. brownsfan

    brownsfan Active Member

    I asked this question to quite a few. If masks worked like they should have, why hasn't the virus cases dropped. They responded.....people like me. I asked them to elaborate. They said that asymptomatic people are the ones who are spreading it by not wearing masks. I stated, every store mandates a mask before entry and I try to break that rule. A couple weeks later I saw them at a bar and asked them...why are you here? Shouldn't you be home? How do i know that you're not asymptomatic and got the blank look.

    I'm not saying I'm completely against it, but lets look at science and common sense. A virus is a living microscopic organism. All cloth masks have holes that are larger than microscopic even if triple layered. Even if the virus can't penetrate through the mask portion, what about the bridge of your nose and those gaps. How about when talking and your chin opens small holes. This thing will eventually go away.
     
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  2. If you get hit in the head while wearing a helmet, does it guarantee you will not suffer a brain injury? Nope. Does it reduce the chance? Yes. If you workout every day and eat healthy, does it guarantee you will not die of heart disease? Nope. Does it reduce the chance? Yes. If you wear a mask, does it guarantee you will not contract or spread the coronavirus? Nope. Does it reduce the chance? Yes .... common sense.
     
  3. DanMaz

    DanMaz Super Moderator Staff Member

    wearing a mask does NOTHING but make you smell your own bad breath, now that's common sense... they also make you look like a dork, and they dont work for anything at all especially stopping you from getting covid. common sense. its been a friggin year................. how has masks helped anything? does Florida come to mind? no masks, lowest level of covid... common sense? California has the most intensive mask mandate and they have the most cases in the country... common sense?? okaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.
     
  4. Your facts are incorrect. On no barometer does Florida have the "lowest level of covid" as you assert. And you left out the fact that despite no statewide Florida order, that state's largest cities & metro area areas, such as Tampa and Miami, in fact DO HAVE mask mandates. And on no barometer does California have the "most intensive mask mandate", as you also falsely state, when compared to many other states' orders and the duration of those orders.
     
  5. IRdad09

    IRdad09 Active Member

    As entertaining as this is to read, I feel like I have to jump in now. Citing the NY Times as an accurate source for information, haha. o_O:confused:
     
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  6. DanMaz

    DanMaz Super Moderator Staff Member

    i dont think any "news" source is reliable for anything anymore.... like none zero nada ziltch
     
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  7. yocoach

    yocoach Super Moderator Staff Member

    I don't think anyone should, considering that the CEO of CBS openly admitted that he feels it's the responsibility of his "News teams" to influence the narrative in order to manipulate/help form public opinion and several other CEOs of other major networks in the same room agreed.
     
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  8. IRdad09

    IRdad09 Active Member

    When you have big tech and nearly all media companies coming up with their own narrative's to spin as facts it is a dangerous precedent to set. This will most likely only continue to grow as those that will now be in power cannot afford to have a discussion on facts as their house of cards will ultimately crumble. Unfortunately there will be no one to truthfully report on it when that time comes.
     
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  9. DanMaz

    DanMaz Super Moderator Staff Member

    I guess I knew it was poison many many years ago when I refused to go on twitter and never got a (2)facedbook account...... and now I never even watch TV "news" channels even 3, 5, 8 local channels are full of lies and agenda driven information that brainwashes anyone that does watch it. it is a sad sad day in America and feels more like China every passing day. Costa Rica is sounding like a great place to retire. just saying.
     
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  10. ALISA WEAVER

    ALISA WEAVER Member

    Do you have a specialized education? Are you a specialist in infectious disease that you take responsibility for stating such things? If I do not have the necessary education, then I look for data in various competent sources (I'm not talking about television news now).
     
  11. DanMaz

    DanMaz Super Moderator Staff Member

    Yes i have a brain and I use what's called, common sense. It is not rocket science. my statements that you are challenging are facts that need no educational background to understand. California as I stated is the most mask mandated state in the USA and has the most cases.... compared to Florida which has the least amount of mask mandates and has one of the lowest covid rates if not the lowest in the USA.... do you actually need a specialized education to understand this?
     
  12. jayflyer98

    jayflyer98 Member

    Actually if you take a look at total cases and population for both states, they are statistically even at 7.5%.. To compare Ohio is at 6.9%. The way I see it is, wearing a mask is like a truck with mud flaps.. In the rain, I would prefer to be behind a truck with mud flaps as it reduces the spray. If I am behind someone in line at the grocery store and they sneeze, I would prefer them to have a mask on... But both sides of this argument probably have points. Can a mask reduce the projection of germs, yes. Try blowing out a candle with a mask on, it is harder. But are people wearing them properly, probably not. Have you looked at a kids mask after a day of school?? Bottom line is we need to figure this out and focus on getting the ones at risk the vaccine. Spring is near and we all want a normal summer of softball!
     
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  13. DLamb

    DLamb Active Member

    I will go out on a limb and say we will have a normal school ball season...maybe playing some non conference games, maybe not. There will be a season. I don’t think they will cancel a 2nd season after allowing football , basketball, wrestling etc...to be played. Summer ball might look a little like last summer. Less out of state traveling, hotels not having breakfast.
     
  14. DanMaz

    DanMaz Super Moderator Staff Member

    oh god. dont get me started on Vaccines.... lol
     
  15. Jenni5001

    Jenni5001 New Member

    Good grief, your using the New York Times to debunk Epoch Times. Do a little digging into the major stock holders of the NYT, like Blackrock and Vanguard. Do a little more digging into the biggest share holders of those groups and you will find names such as Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, Amazon, and more. The same Silicon Valley big tech corporations that think American citizens shouldn’t be able to voice their opinions or think on their own due to the possibility of spreading misinformation. They are the only ones that are allowed to spread misinformation. If you are on the left politically, they will leave you alone for now as long as you go with the narrative. However, if you ever start thinking on your own, they will come for you eventually too. It is not about left or right. It is about freedom!

    Btw, there has been a vast amount of evidence over the years from reputable medical peer journals to support the Science that masks do not keep people safe from airborne illnesses. Look up the size of the covid 19 virus and then the size of the pore openings on your common everyday masks. If the mask doesn’t restrict the air, the mask is useless. N95 masks are an exception and offer some protection (not even close to 100%) since they are tightly woven to restrict the air. However, n95 masks are not recommended for extended use for this very reason. And as someone in this thread pointed out, in order for mask-using to be safe, you cannot touch your mask at all, can never put it down and then back on your face, and can certainly not continue to reuse them. In addition, if you are continually mask-wearing, you are breathing your own carbon dioxide waste which in turn lowers your oxygen saturation levels. If you don’t believe me, do your own science experiment: buy a pulse ox machine that checks your oxygen levels. Take your oxygen levels in the morning when you wake up. Wear a mask religiously for an entire 8 hour workday. At the end of the day, check your oxygen levels again.

    If masks are bad for your health and do not stop the transmission of airborne illnesses, then why is the government mandating mask wearing. Think about it! It is never been about your health and has always been about public suppression
     
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  16. DanMaz

    DanMaz Super Moderator Staff Member

    we need more people like this ^(Jenni5001) ^ to stand up and SHOUT IT OUT!!!!!!! the government is slowly brainwashing you and controlling everything you do and want you under their complete control ...
    DO NOT LET THEM CONTROL YOU>
     
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