Who's going to stick up for this peach?

[wannaplaysb]

by all of this...

 

[cobb_of_fury]

by all of this...

I compleatly understand WannaPlay, I felt the same way, here's a video that I think May help...
[video=youtube;wvAnQqVJ3XQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvAnQqVJ3XQ[/video]

 

[yossarian]

by all of this...

If we renamed the thread "Please feed my insatiable appetite for attention", would that help you understand?

 

[mike_dyer]

by all of this...

Here's a bit of advice.

Under no circumstances should you tell 10u coaches and/or parents that they are not playing for a national title and that Florida, Alabama, UofM, etc are.

You should also never tell the 12u coaches and/or parents that Kelly Inouye-Perez doesn't care what they've got going on and will not be out to watch them play even if they are playing just around the corner.

Stick to that and this won't happen every time you post a radical idea like "Hey, coaches shouldn't scream in kid's faces...."

 

[mike_dyer]

If we renamed the thread "Please feed my insatiable appetite for attention", would that help you understand?

It should be called "empty heads are surprising roomy, and thank you for all of the free space."

 

[cobb_of_fury]

If we renamed the thread "Please feed my insatiable appetite for attention", would that help you understand?

Please remember this is first and formost an entertainment medium - an outlet for thought and opinion, with Rickys blessing we are all free to entertain our selves and the readers as we see fit -
Sometimes it is thoughtful opinion, sometimes helpful information, Sometimes Cat videos - and thats what makes America great!

 

[CoachB25]

By the way, JB et al.

In case you haven't noticed you've allied yourselves with someone who screams in kid's faces in the middle of a game. It means he's competitive and also a winner. He's also a great coach. A very great and humble coach.

Run to him, fellas. He's all yours.

No one has aligned themselves with anyone because your scenario is a farce. It didn't happen as no coach practices home runs on demand. No coach practices triples, doubles, singles on demand. No coach goes out in public and screams at a player for not hitting a home run on demand. You can continue in your ruse but no one believes you.

Mike, in no way could your daughter play for me. You are the type that is for trophies for participation. I'm not. I'm for getting after it. The difference between you and I is that I have used my real name and anyone here can search my record. You are simply a troll.

BTW, instead of complaining about your HS coach on this site, how about taking your child off of the team. A real parent that believes that their child is being coached in the wrong way would make that move. You just want attention and so, come on here to whine.

 

[mike_dyer]

Every time you post I feel a lot better about my basic high school education.

<<<That's my name.

<<<That is my face.

 

[mike_dyer]

I'm not. I'm for getting after it. The difference between you and I is that I have used my real name and anyone here can search my record.

And I did look into your record and compared it to another coach.

Between you and Mike Candrea you have over 1400 NCAA D1 wins, 10 PAC10 coach of the year awards, coached in the WCWS 16 consecutive years and 21 times total, won it 8 times, and made some internet posts about what great coaches you are.

Oddly enough I can't find any posts from Mike. His mom didn't name him "coachM25."

Keep doing your part.

 

[CoachB25]

So so far I have found a lawyer and a newscaster named Mike Dyer. Are you one of these? BTW, did you find anywhere in your search that when the former Soviet Union was developing its Olympic Baseball Program in 1998 that 2 HS coaches were chosen to go help start that program? You'd never guess who one of those two coaches were? LOL Mike, the comment about records and your comparison is the perfect example of you acting as a troll. The point was that I have a record and am afraid to state who I am and my accomplishments. How about some of those coaching accomplishments since you are so much smarter than your HS coach and know more about recruitment than anyone on this site. I'm positive we all want to know. Oh, and since you came out and said you posted a pic of your dd on the site, then it shouldn't be to hard for you to go ahead and state what teams she plays for.

 

[mike_dyer]

then it shouldn't be to hard for you to go ahead and state what teams she plays for.

Can you believe this???

The guy accusing a complete stranger of seeking participation awards is now crying that the same complete stranger owes him something and needs to pay up.

Look, not that this isn't a blast, big meat, but you come find me this summer and scream in my face like I'm one of the little girls who plays for you. My kid will be at stingrays and a few other tournaments that they won't let your team into collecting participation awards. I'm pretty hard to miss.

Now get that last word, punkin.

 

[cobb_of_fury]

Can you believe this???

The guy accusing a complete stranger of seeking participation awards is now crying that the same complete stranger owes him something and needs to pay up.

Look, not that this isn't a blast, big meat, but you come find me this summer and scream in my face like I'm one of the little girls who plays for you. My kid will be at stingrays and a few other tournaments that they won't let your team into collecting participation awards. I'm pretty hard to miss.

Now get that last word, punkin.

...and with that Please enjoy this short video
[video=youtube;zuchTB8CVD4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuchTB8CVD4[/video]

 

[CoachB25]

Can you believe this???

The guy accusing a complete stranger of seeking participation awards is now crying that the same complete stranger owes him something and needs to pay up.

Look, not that this isn't a blast, big meat, but you come find me this summer and scream in my face like I'm one of the little girls who plays for you. My kid will be at stingrays and a few other tournaments that they won't let your team into collecting participation awards. I'm pretty hard to miss.

Now get that last word, punkin.

That a way to man up Mike. You must feel better now. LOL

 

[coachjwb]

Mike ... I haven't aligned with anyone here ... I don't know CoachB (BTW Coach B, that really is Mike's name).

My only point, Mike, was that a majority of the posters here said they don't believe in coaches screaming in kid's faces. A majority also said they didn't believe the original story ... whether you were exaggerating or got the story wrong, or whether it really did and the rest of us were wrong doesn't really matter. There are similar situations though when a coach tells a player to do something (e.g., take or bunt) and they don't and, every once in a while, it actually works out better. Of course, you will hear more about the times when it turned out better than when it didn't, which will likely be a majority of the time. Players need to learn to do what their coach/team needs from them, no different than you and I need to do at work what our bosses ask us to do, and your kids need to do at home what you ask them to do. I don't believe in screaming at them on the field, maybe CoachB does, but don't use his philosophy to summarize the whole thread when the majority of posters said something different.

 

[CoachB25]

Coachjwb, I was simply having some fun with Mike. As I said, I'm a yeller. I typically yell positive things to my players. LOL Here is an example of some of the stuff I hand out when I do coaching clinics for coaches. Believe it or not, I live in Madison County, Il and so, when the new changes began in education and all the certifications changed in our state, each Regional Superintendent of Schools had to put on a clinic for coaches. I was chosen to give that presentation for every coach of every sport in my county. I also moderate the coaching forums of the High School Baseball Web and Baseball Fever due to my national reputation as a coach. Here is a sample of some baseball stuff I hand out:

Coaching 101- Coaches should give players useful and beneficial information. It is then ultimately up to the player whether or not he uses it. A player's aptitude and make-up play a vital role in this process. Some will not, or cannot affect the necessary changes they may need to make in order to be successful. This perception should be beneficial not only to the coach but to the player as well. By understanding this concept a player can step back and take a look at the way he has approached the game in the past. "It's up to me, hmmm. I am responsible." I believe every coach should make his players aware of this. This goes hand in hand with a coach telling a player their role on a team.

Other Tips:
1. Instead of telling a player what to do and what changes he must make, phrase it in the form of a suggestion. Suggest he widen his stance. Suggest he keep his weight back. Suggest he work harder at practice. I believe players will be more receptive if you do that. You can always fall back on telling the player exactly what he needs to do should your suggestions not be taken.
2. Don't push. Be a mentor, not a tormenter. If a kid can't 'get it', don't immediately react in a negative manner. We believe in 8 positives to 1 negative. Now, that negative will be real bad!
3. When you give player a drill, tell him why he should do it. Give him the benefit of knowing what it will do for his performance. You are a teacher 1[SUP]st[/SUP]!
4. Put aside your ego! You?re doing this for kids! For instance if you are helping a pitcher with a rushing problem don't look to see if he threw a strike then tell him how bad he made you look last game when he couldn?t locate. The ball may go in the dirt or over the catcher's head if you pressure him too much. He is trying something new or trying to improve so be patient. His muscle memory may be screaming at him, "NO"! Look at him and know he wants to do well. Give him positive reinforcement on the CHANGE and tell him not to worry about the RESULT for a while.
5. Ask questions. Get feedback from your players. "How did that feel to you when you widened your stance? Your stride was shorter; did you see the ball better?" If the player says no, then you must take a second look at the method. Understand that they are kids and sometimes they just fail. It doesn?t mean they did something that needs to be changed.
6. Sometimes it's better to keep 'hands off' for a while. If a player is struggling and yet is trying his best, give him some room. Let him fail a little doing it his way. Watch him carefully. Learn. Then when you come to him again, he may be more receptive. Approach a change after this with a positive attitude and not a, ?I told you so? approach.
7. Remove all negative language in your vocabulary. Use positive reinforcement. Ok so it is hard. If nothing else, PLEASE remove all cussing at the players.
8. Give your instruction in small doses. Too much at one time may negate the effect you are trying to achieve. It causes them to have a ?brain fart.?
9. Your definitive job as a coach is to try to improve your players and help them move on to the next level. They are not there for you so you may feed your ego. Put that attitude away and learn all you can. If you can do this, you are a COACH.


Note, I work with coaches all of the time and swap stuff. So, "my stuff" is often, but not always, stuff I've swapped with other successful coaches and then made it my own. As some know, I have often emailed out a format for a recruitment brochure that I changed from the recruitment brochure that the Sorcerers used to use. Scott Sarginson supplied it to me. Should anyone want to see any of this "stuff" pm on a subject and I'll if I have something.

 

[CoachB25]

Hey, why not give Mike a little more fodder? Here is a handout I gave to parents each year at our parent meeting. I'm sure he will dislike most of it.

1. A program is the ideas of the Head Coach. Certainly, this baseball program is! I have nurtured it and fed it through effort, love and heartache. My assistants have given the same devotion! I am proud to have Coach Bugger, Coach Drake, Coach Bay and Coach Deatherage on my staff!
2. Naturally, you want to protect your child and agonize over turning your child over to a coaching staff. You must now do so. Let that coach now coach your child and evaluate what you have taught them through their new struggles, heartaches and achievements. You may be surprised and will be proud of the men that they have become.
3. We have an overriding purpose larger than winning or losing in our program. It is the total package of what we help produce in your sons. Our program will be an extension of the classroom of life. Teaching baseball is not our sole objective. Winning is a by-product of what we teach, coach, and believe in.
4. Our program grows and matures each day and each year. Our goals change as well. They increase in demands for success and commitment. While some of your sons have given a lot, we are going to ask for more!
5. What I expect form my assistants:
   1. Passion
   2. Duty
   3. Loyalty
   4. Shoulder a portion of the burden. However, I will deal with any parent problems at any level.
6. Some of our player expectations:
   1. Love for the game as well as themselves.
   2. Have a passion for achieving our team goals.
   3. Have a desire to compete at the very highest level against the best teams.
7. We know what we know but we know what we know. Some people know what they know but they don?t really know what they know. We know what we know but we know what we know. You know!
8. Your child may have unique talents. However, those talents will fit into our philosophy of both individual and team development.
9. We will expect for you go give to our program in late suppers, dirty uniforms etc. Eventually, we will expect for your sons to give back to the program and the great game of baseball.
10. Bud Wilkinson, former coach of the Oklahoma Sooners required his players to, ?Play against the game,? We talk to the players about this! The game of baseball is complete with every formula for defeat. It is in the count, it is in the strategies of the game and it is in the fabric of human nature. We expect your son to overcome all of this. EXCELLENCE IS EXPECTED!
11. You don?t work long hard hours unless you love what you are doing. We love what we are doing and we will work long hard hours.
12. Our greatest strength is our opponent?s greatest weakness! WORK ETHIC!
    1. REPETITION IS NO FUN BUT IT?S THE REASON WE HAVE WON.
    2. TAKE ONE DAY OFF AND YOU KNOW IT. TAKE TWO DAYS OFF AND YOUR OPPONENT KNOWS IT. TAKE THREE DAYS OFF AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT.
    3. It?s not what you teach, it?s what you emphasize. Emphasis will be placed on dedication, hard work and commitment.
13. You are what you think you are! Your son will be expected to be a CHAMPION!
14. Coaching strategies often come under fire from parents and fans. Keep negative comments to yourself. Questioning the coach will not change who the coach is but it could hurt your son?s loyalty to the coach and program. Disloyalty will not be tolerated. We know how to win and will do what we think is right. We/I do not believe in all of the ?unwritten rules of the game.? I coach with intensity and guts. Sometimes this will work and sometimes it will backfire on us. However, I have the moxie to make those choices and will, career wise, live with them.
15. On a good team one or two players do the dirty jobs. On a great team everyone does the dirty jobs! We will not tolerate having a ?Star!?
16. Invariably coaching comes down to the pain of discipline, regret and loss. I/we as a coaching staff have to live with this. We will always question why we fail to achieve. Ironically, we will seldom be exposed to the praise of achievement. Again, this is human nature. We accept this. Personally, I can tell you of every play that lost every game I have coached in my years of coaching. I can give player names, situations and each team we lost to. I can also tell you the winning percentage of each team that I have coached against my teams.
17. If it comes down to you, your son or the program, that decision was made long ago.
18. A good player can take coaching but a great player takes that coaching to a higher level. Today?s players can?t seem to differentiate between criticism and coaching. Your son should start worrying if we stop coaching/criticizing them.
19. In the movie Hoosiers, the coach says, "I love you guys!" In fact, some of your sons and the coaching staff have very special relationships. Please don?t be jealous of this.

1. Reputation is what people think about you. Really, in this context, I/we have no control over our reputations. I do, in fact, know what my reputation is. Character is what you are. Character is what you are when no one is around. We, as a staff, have a lot of character and attempt to pass that on to your son everyday.
2. What are the best traits you have witnessed in coaching? As parents, we ask you to evaluate us and to ask yourself if we aren?t the type of people that you want your sons around. Now that is the total package not just some isolated case or incident. If I had a son, I would want him around us!
3. Take the good from our program. We are proud of it! We are proud to be Knights! We are proud to represent our school and community. We are proud of our parents! We hope you share that same pride! Win or lose, support us with class!

EDITED PER TYPO ON WILKINSON.

 

[Ri-domination]

Lol, look at all these darn 10u parents getting all worked up! Lol, listen after a while when you've been through all this for a while you'll learn to relax, have fun, and cherish the time, lol. Isn't that the speech the 10u parents get for acting this way.

 

[backstop09]

Hey, why not give Mike a little more fodder? Here is a handout I gave to parents each year at our parent meeting. I'm sure he will dislike most of it.

1. A program is the ideas of the Head Coach. Certainly, this baseball program is! I have nurtured it and fed it through effort, love and heartache. My assistants have given the same devotion! I am proud to have Coach Bugger, Coach Drake, Coach Bay and Coach Deatherage on my staff!
2. Naturally, you want to protect your child and agonize over turning your child over to a coaching staff. You must now do so. Let that coach now coach your child and evaluate what you have taught them through their new struggles, heartaches and achievements. You may be surprised and will be proud of the men that they have become.
3. We have an overriding purpose larger than winning or losing in our program. It is the total package of what we help produce in your sons. Our program will be an extension of the classroom of life. Teaching baseball is not our sole objective. Winning is a by-product of what we teach, coach, and believe in.
4. Our program grows and matures each day and each year. Our goals change as well. They increase in demands for success and commitment. While some of your sons have given a lot, we are going to ask for more!
5. What I expect form my assistants:
   1. Passion
   2. Duty
   3. Loyalty
   4. Shoulder a portion of the burden. However, I will deal with any parent problems at any level.
6. Some of our player expectations:
   1. Love for the game as well as themselves.
   2. Have a passion for achieving our team goals.
   3. Have a desire to compete at the very highest level against the best teams.
7. We know what we know but we know what we know. Some people know what they know but they don?t really know what they know. We know what we know but we know what we know. You know!
8. Your child may have unique talents. However, those talents will fit into our philosophy of both individual and team development.
9. We will expect for you go give to our program in late suppers, dirty uniforms etc. Eventually, we will expect for your sons to give back to the program and the great game of baseball.
10. Bud Wilkerson, former coach of the Oklahoma Sooners required his players to, ?Play against the game,? We talk to the players about this! The game of baseball is complete with every formula for defeat. It is in the count, it is in the strategies of the game and it is in the fabric of human nature. We expect your son to overcome all of this. EXCELLENCE IS EXPECTED!
11. You don?t work long hard hours unless you love what you are doing. We love what we are doing and we will work long hard hours.
12. Our greatest strength is our opponent?s greatest weakness! WORK ETHIC!
    1. REPETITION IS NO FUN BUT IT?S THE REASON WE HAVE WON.
    2. TAKE ONE DAY OFF AND YOU KNOW IT. TAKE TWO DAYS OFF AND YOUR OPPONENT KNOWS IT. TAKE THREE DAYS OFF AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT.
    3. It?s not what you teach, it?s what you emphasize. Emphasis will be placed on dedication, hard work and commitment.
13. You are what you think you are! Your son will be expected to be a CHAMPION!
14. Coaching strategies often come under fire from parents and fans. Keep negative comments to yourself. Questioning the coach will not change who the coach is but it could hurt your son?s loyalty to the coach and program. Disloyalty will not be tolerated. We know how to win and will do what we think is right. We/I do not believe in all of the ?unwritten rules of the game.? I coach with intensity and guts. Sometimes this will work and sometimes it will backfire on us. However, I have the moxie to make those choices and will, career wise, live with them.
15. On a good team one or two players do the dirty jobs. On a great team everyone does the dirty jobs! We will not tolerate having a ?Star!?
16. Invariably coaching comes down to the pain of discipline, regret and loss. I/we as a coaching staff have to live with this. We will always question why we fail to achieve. Ironically, we will seldom be exposed to the praise of achievement. Again, this is human nature. We accept this. Personally, I can tell you of every play that lost every game I have coached in my years of coaching. I can give player names, situations and each team we lost to. I can also tell you the winning percentage of each team that I have coached against my teams.
17. If it comes down to you, your son or the program, that decision was made long ago.
18. A good player can take coaching but a great player takes that coaching to a higher level. Today?s players can?t seem to differentiate between criticism and coaching. Your son should start worrying if we stop coaching/criticizing them.
19. In the movie Hoosiers, the coach says, "I love you guys!" In fact, some of your sons and the coaching staff have very special relationships. Please don?t be jealous of this.

1. Reputation is what people think about you. Really, in this context, I/we have no control over our reputations. I do, in fact, know what my reputation is. Character is what you are. Character is what you are when no one is around. We, as a staff, have a lot of character and attempt to pass that on to your son everyday.
2. What are the best traits you have witnessed in coaching? As parents, we ask you to evaluate us and to ask yourself if we aren?t the type of people that you want your sons around. Now that is the total package not just some isolated case or incident. If I had a son, I would want him around us!
3. Take the good from our program. We are proud of it! We are proud to be Knights! We are proud to represent our school and community. We are proud of our parents! We hope you share that same pride! Win or lose, support us with class!

FYI - It's Wilkinson, not Wilkerson.

 

[cobb_of_fury]

Lol, look at all these darn 10u parents getting all worked up! Lol, listen after a while when you've been through all this for a while you'll learn to relax, have fun, and cherish the time, lol. Isn't that the speech the 10u parents get for acting this way.

R-D you are correct, The only diffrence is that no one has yet to mention how their team could beat <NAME TAEM> if only ...

 

[CoachB25]

FYI - It's Wilkinson, not Wilkerson.

Thanks. I edited the post. Thanks also for actually reading all of that rambling.