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Usually "big" named orgs... usually don't have coaches that don't know anything.. as it brings down the whole org if they do...

Sounds like to me.. they were looking for coachable kids to do it the right way and not their way .. and was they willing to try to do it the coach's way.

Putting money into clinics all winter can be wasted on uncoachable kids versus coachable ones

That's all I'm saying.

 

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again its not a clinic. If she can't throw, hit, catch, or run why bother. I also don't want a coach telling my dd how to do fundementals if he/she doesn't know themself.

 

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ok i appreciate that you didnt throw any org. under the bus I was thinking out loud and didnt really think about what i was typing. Good Luck This Year!!! Hope the rest of it goes better!

Me, too !!! As The Bear May looks highly down on that process... Next thing you know... he is stomping in here with his cartoon character and his eyes looking at you...:lmao:

When you get the "EYES".. you know he is quite upset.

It's just a common practice to not call out an org on here.

Good luck to your DD's .. each and every one of you and enjoy the fun the girls want to have playing with new friends. It goes by so quickly.
Don't be the moaning and groaning parent sitting on the sidelines talking about the coach.

If you don't like what the coach is doing.. move on !!!

If I was a coach.. my first tryout would be the parents...:lmao:

 

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My DD and I have been to several 12u tryouts and have seen some of what you have seen. However, I saw it all as positive. It showed me that the coaches cared and wanted to see the girls do the best they could. I've seen all levels of skill at tryouts, from possible superstars to girls still trying to grasp fundementals. In fact we were at a tryout recently and they wanted to see the girls bunt the first five pitches they saw. After five pitches to one girl it was obvious she had never bunted before. She did not know how. Instead of saying "next" the coach feeding balls into the machine took 30 seconds and showed the girl how to bunt. They gave her another five pitches, and guess what? she had four solid bunts out of five pitches. To me, that was awesome. That's the kind of organization I want my DD playing for. Unfortunately she did not get an offer.

Its good to hear when someone appreciates our reasoning behind doing some of these things instead of looking at the negative side and jumping on good coaches who really do care. And DO WANT TO SEE THE KIDS SUCEED!

 

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me, too !!! As the bear may looks highly down on that process... Next thing you know... He is stomping in here with his cartoon character and his eyes looking at you...:lmao:

When you get the "eyes".. You know he is quite upset.

It's just a common practice to not call out an org on here.

Good luck to your dd's .. Each and every one of you and enjoy the fun the girls want to have playing with new friends. It goes by so quickly.
Don't be the moaning and groaning parent sitting on the sidelines talking about the coach.

If you don't like what the coach is doing.. Move on !!!

If i was a coach.. My first tryout would be the parents...:lmao:

i 2nd that motion on the floor!!!!!!

 

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again its not a clinic. If she can't throw, hit, catch, or run why bother. I also don't want a coach telling my dd how to do fundementals if he/she doesn't know themself.

I agree.. I wouldn't either.. But, usually "BIG" orgs have coaches that go to coaching clinic. Requirement for many orgs actually.

If I was a 10u coach or even a 12u coach.. and I didn't take the time to teach the proper methods of hitting, throwing and weight distribution and I watch this girl blow out her ACL in her knee at 16u.. finishing her career or damaging her life... I don't know about the rest of you.. but that's a hard pill to swollow as a REAL coach. I know personally.. I could never forgive myself... knowing I could have made a difference and didn't.

 

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again its not a clinic. If she can't throw, hit, catch, or run why bother. I also don't want a coach telling my dd how to do fundementals if he/she doesn't know themself.

I coached a bunch of boys nobody wanted when I was 16 years old. A parent came to me and asked if I would help. Believe you me, the boys had no skill in baseball.. but had desire. We got stomped by the other local team from the same town our first game of the season.. I stopped the game at 27-1 in the 4th inning and they was the home team.

We practiced and practiced and practiced.. got beat a few more times.. practiced.. and when we met up with the local team in the second half of the season... after my kids took jawing in the grade school they attend by this other teams players and then BEAT THEM.. well you would have thought they won the World Series.. They were jumping in their parents arms.. crying, parents crying... etc... they went through HELL and back for me.

Coachable.. that's what I want.. give me a kid that is coachable and I'll lead you through the gates of hell.. at the front of the line.

I never coached again after that season. I see them on the streets sometimes in Clinton County.. and they still call me Coach.

What an honor it was to have coachable kids.

That could be what some of these other coaches are looking for. To have young girls 34 years later calling you "Coach" when they cross your path. You have to know.. to know what it feels like.

 

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I see where you are coming from. But, I have to agree that it's about being coachable. Also, If you try to correct a bad throw and the girl gives attitude, you don't want her. And worse... if "daddy" get's an attitude. You REALLY don't want her. That sends off red flags. I can't tell you how many times I have heard "but that's not how my dad taught me" and "my dad told me not to listen to you".


That's just my two cents.

 

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i see where you are coming from. But, i have to agree that it's about being coachable. Also, if you try to correct a bad throw and the girl gives attitude, you don't want her. And worse... If "daddy" get's an attitude. You really don't want her. That sends off red flags. I can't tell you how many times i have heard "but that's not how my dad taught me" and "my dad told me not to listen to you".


That's just my two cents.

to me that info was priceless. Can you say nail on the head!!!!

 

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again i feel you guys are missing my point !!!!! im just surprised that good organizations are running there TRY-OUTs like a rec ball practice ... i have no problem with coaches coaching a practice and teaching the kids how they want it done there way but when i go to a tryout i want to run the girls hard and see what THEY bring to the table .....small corrections are fine to get a read on attitude and coachablity ..... but to turn a 12u travel try out into a rec practice or clinic on how to break down a over hand throw to a bunch of girls is very aggervating ...... and surprising !!!! and yes i wood think very long and hard before i wood ever consider playing on a team such as this ..... just venting didnt see this last year surprised to see it this year thats all .....

 

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well Im very disappointed in the few try-outs Ive been to this past few weeks seems like they were all very unorganized . and they looked more like a rec practice than a try -out maybe its the age 12u but .... lots of wasted time and dumb drills that dont seem to show what the kids are able to do ..... i just feel that 12u coaches should not be correcting kids on there swings or at bats and there throwing over hand . they want it done like this or like that ... and it just seemed to take a good kid make them really nervous and then they hold back or its screws them all up ...... i wood rather see a hard run balls out try-out lets see what you got and can bring to the team .... if we like what we see and you make the team then coach them into how you want them to swing or throw ...... i watched these coaches correct 3 kids that looked like really good players and after that they were all jacked up and there confidents was gone . im so glad it wasnt my kid . but the girls were just trying to adjust to what they thought the coaches wanted and it was not good .....
again small adjustments like get down in front of that ball or make sure you use both hands or charge that ball harder . is all fine and good but ... these guys were like trying to reteach the art of throwing a ball and it turned into a train rec for some good kids ....... thats all ....

I have been to my share of try outs....after they go through their required hitting for example and lets say it was 10 pitches and they do not hit any balls, do you try to help? Lets say they do not get a ball out of the infield, do you try and help? Lets say they can not throw the ball to the first baseman from third? Is she too nervous, under pressure or maybe she can not throw properly. Did she get angry or did you see she was not as good as the rest of the kids?

Most of the parent experts would not be looking at try outs as the coaches know who these kids are and guide them in the correct direction because they know the kids and I might say they know the parents also which may keep the kid from not making the team!

These are not corporate run teams and if your expectations are that high move a little further West and that does not include the Midwest and your expectations might be met if your daughter is that good and you allow the coaches to do their job.

I hope that does not upset you however it is probably what most coaches would like to tell you as it is reality.

When I see 18 year olds that can not yet throw a ball properly....whose fault is that? The parents, the coaches, the player, the umpire, the fans, the high school coaches or the 5 or 6 teams she has been on previously.

It is time to be honest about you and possibly your daughters abilities and I truly mean that without malice because I do not know you....however it is a gut check.

Most of the coaches I know would call you IF they knew you were looking for a team if she was that good and you were not with another team.

 

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You'll learn. Once you start a thread. Rarely does it go in the direction its supposed to. All you can do is keep replying to keep it on track.

 

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I have been to my share of try outs....after they go through their required hitting for example and lets say it was 10 pitches and they do not hit any balls, do you try to help? Lets say they do not get a ball out of the infield, do you try and help? Lets say they can not throw the ball to the first baseman from third? Is she too nervous, under pressure or maybe she can not throw properly. Did she get angry or did you see she was not as good as the rest of the kids?

Most of the parent experts would not be looking at try outs as the coaches know who these kids are and guide them in the correct direction because they know the kids and I might say they know the parents also which may keep the kid from not making the team!

These are not corporate run teams and if your expectations are that high move a little further West and that does not include the Midwest and your expectations might be met if your daughter is that good and you allow the coaches to do their job.

I hope that does not upset you however it is probably what most coaches would like to tell you as it is reality.

When I see 18 year olds that can not yet throw a ball properly....whose fault is that? The parents, the coaches, the player, the umpire, the fans, the high school coaches or the 5 or 6 teams she has been on previously.

It is time to be honest about you and possibly your daughters abilities and I truly mean that without malice because I do not know you....however it is a gut check.

Most of the coaches I know would call you IF they knew you were looking for a team if she was that good and you were not with another team.

Its always a joy to read your reply's to different post. Howard your always blunt and straight to the point. Most coaches try and take the long road in telling a parent what they are thinking. However you on the other hand forget all the BS lets get to the point.

 

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You'll learn. Once you start a thread. Rarely does it go in the direction its supposed to. All you can do is keep replying to keep it on track.

Ok.. here we go Have a clue..

What was so "rec" about the try-out ? I can't wait for this explination.

 

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Ok.. here we go Have a clue..

What was so "rec" about the try-out ? I can't wait for this explination.

Me too................:lmao:

 

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Here's the thing about that... These 10u and 12u girls by the time they are 16u.. are having knee problems... and most of it stems from not learning to throw the ball properly and weight distribution. Same with hitting and their knees.

The Cleveland Clinic did a study with other area facilities and found out this is where most injuries come from... when they were not taught the proper way to hit or throw a ball while at a young age.

You might want to rethink your postition on these coaches teaching the proper mechanics of throwing and hitting.... cause I hoping they might have taught the proper way.. to which.. it saves your DD's knees for later down the road.

Good points.

 

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You'll learn. Once you start a thread. Rarely does it go in the direction its supposed to. All you can do is keep replying to keep it on track.

Ha Ha. Just enjoy the ride!

 

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I see where you are coming from. But, I have to agree that it's about being coachable. Also, If you try to correct a bad throw and the girl gives attitude, you don't want her. And worse... if "daddy" get's an attitude. You REALLY don't want her. That sends off red flags. I can't tell you how many times I have heard "but that's not how my dad taught me" and "my dad told me not to listen to you".


Bingo ;&
That's known as a kid having too much baggage

 

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We make it a point to tell the parents and the players, that we have specific mechanics that we teach, that we have had feedback from college coaches that we are teaching the correct mechanics and that while we don't expect them to be able to do them properly, that if they show a willingness to try to adjust and learn the mechanics they are demonstrating "coachability", since our primary purpose is teaching, we make it a point to tell the parents and or players that know everything already that there are plenty of teams where they don't really give a hoot about teaching and if you know it all and don't need to learn anything, please go play for them.

I want to note this is 12u through 18u, if we are not out there to teach why do it, FYI, I know that this will cause performance issues with some kids, quite honestly, if they are that convinced that they cannot do anything different, it doesn't matter how good they are they will not get better.

It is NEVER to late or too early to teach a player correct mechanics!

 

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first off. What do you mean(what was so "rec" about the try out). If your talking about sticking to the thread, try it some time. guy has a simple statement about tryouts and the firsst reply is about knee injuries and cleveland clinic studies. #15 reply your the state director for whatever. #23 the bear mays on his way. #27 your life as a 16 yr old. Stay with the thread.