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4thegame, Don't be going "hillbilly" on him now... :lmao::lmao:

PM me and let me know who your DD is playing for so I can look you up and talk softball at some tournament. You know you can't hide from me now... if I want to talk softball..

 

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hmmmm that above post of mine did not read as well as i thought but you get my point ..... i hope .... im all for good coaching and im very open minded just looking for a tryout to be a try out not a practice .....

 

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ok .one last try .... i went to a few tryouts of some well known teams . and it was disappointing . for me as a parent and for my dd as a player becuase it seemed to go from a travel tryout to a practice or a clinic ......i guess im not interested in going to tryouts so coaches can take time to break kids down and teach them how to fundamentally throw the ball over hand . if this was a first practice of a team we just joined i wood be 100% fine with what ever the coaches need to or wanted to do to get the team heading in the direction they wanted ..... but as a try-out i wood think these teams wood have a set agenda of speed drills, in fielding drills, out fielding drills , and hitting ..... line the girls up and let them compete for the top spots ..... i just wish when teams announce try outs they could say come try out for this team so we can teach you how to hit and throw while we decided if we are interested in you playing for us !!!!! that way i can pass them up.....

The second try out session.. they compete for spots The first tryout is to see IF they can compete and coachability.

I still say parent tryouts would be first on my list if I was a coach.

 

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ok .one last try .... i went to a few tryouts of some well known teams . and it was disappointing . for me as a parent and for my dd as a player becuase it seemed to go from a travel tryout to a practice or a clinic ......i guess im not interested in going to tryouts so coaches can take time to break kids down and teach them how to fundamentally throw the ball over hand . if this was a first practice of a team we just joined i wood be 100% fine with what ever the coaches need to or wanted to do to get the team heading in the direction they wanted ..... but as a try-out i wood think these teams wood have a set agenda of speed drills, in fielding drills, out fielding drills , and hitting ..... line the girls up and let them compete for the top spots ..... i just wish when teams announce try outs they could say come try out for this team so we can teach you how to hit and throw while we decided if we are interested in you playing for us !!!!! that way i can pass them up.....

coaches teach so sometimes its hard to just judge without trying to help , every tryout is different , the coaches are giving the girls a tryout and parents and the girls are giving the coaches a tryout , if it don't feel right then on to the next one, the right fits out there

 

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....I still say parent tryouts would be first on my list if I was a coach.

Hmm What would this consist of?

How quickly you can run home and get back to the field with the missing equipment??

How you can manuever the cooler between the goose droppings?

Can I get a list of the drills, so I can practice for next season? (Sorry, couldn't resist)

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Maybe the parent tryouts will include a few hitting, catching and throwing drills for when the parents take on the girls at the end of season picnic, I mean after all won't the coaches be on the parents team at that point?!

I would be willing to go to that tryout, after all who do you think is spending all the evenings and weekends when she isn't at practice throwing, hitting and fielding with her? By the end of the first season we've all been "schooled" in fastpitch, and when will the test be, I'm all ready!

My daughter had some really good tryouts with some really great teams this year, and we didn't see any "rec" involved. :lmao: I would have been more than happy to have been interviewed by the coaches. We are 100% in support of our daughter and her team, which of course includes her coaches. We aren't there to coach, that is why we chose a team that we had 100% confidence in the coaches, so we can just be there to parent. We would NEVER tell our daughter to not listen to her coach, or to not do what he told her to do. If we didn't have the confidence in the coach, she would have never chosen the team she did.

Now when it comes time to cheer, I will be the biggest mouth in the park, followed closely by my five year old who learned every cheer last season, and still practices daily every single one!! My daughter will be practicing, and her little brother will cheer her on the whole time.:yahoo::lmao::yahoo::lmao:

 

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Maybe the parent tryouts will include a few hitting, catching and throwing drills for when the parents take on the girls at the end of season picnic, I mean after all won't the coaches be on the parents team at that point?!

I would be willing to go to that tryout, after all who do you think is spending all the evenings and weekends when she isn't at practice throwing, hitting and fielding with her? By the end of the first season we've all been "schooled" in fastpitch, and when will the test be, I'm all ready!

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Now when it comes time to cheer, I will be the biggest mouth in the park, followed closely by my five year old who learned every cheer last season, and still practices daily every single one!! My daughter will be practicing, and her little brother will cheer her on the whole time.:yahoo::lmao::yahoo::lmao:

I am SO glad they did not hold my bad throws against my daughter when I was getting her warmed up..... She would not have made a team.;&
At a practice she had yesterday I was trying to throw it to girls that are aprox 3 ft something, and having a heck of a time getting it in their range. (She is in 10u) My daughter is big for her age, so I can throw it like an aberage size adult. Needless to say I was yanked.

The cheers do kinda burn themselves into your mind. I consistently hear myself humming them when I hear keywords now. I think I might be in trouble since she is only 9 now, with a lot more years of ball in store for us.

 

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B-A-T-T-L-E.........battle ******battle, over and over and over.....

 

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B-A-T-T-L-E.........battle ******battle, over and over and over.....

This is a great cheer......I remember it well....from 8u rec ball......

 

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As a coach I can teach a girl to hit, to throw, to field, and to catch, I can even teach one to understand how to out-think their opponents. But I can't teach a girl to be a good learner, I can't teach a girl to be open minded, I can't teach her to listen, I can't teach them to have a good attitude, no matter how interesting and exciting I try to make it. All in all your better teams are not nessecarily made up of the girls who have the most talent, the fastest, or have the strongest bats. The best teams will be made up of girls who listen and execute together better then the other team. A team will fail with nothing but talent if they don't get along and don't support each other. Your tryout is more about your DDs attitude and that of the parents as much as the coaches can get in the short time of a 2 hour tryout. If you are concerned about the coaches interview them, research them prior to the tryout. Know their history, if they have kids on the team, why they are doing what they are doing ( what motivates them).

If you are making the transition from rec to travel you are in for a big eye opening change. Your mind will have to be just as open as your DD's, sit, listen, watch, and learn. Then take what you have learned and practice it with your DD.

Don't mean to be "HILLBILLY", but for a bucket to hold water it has to have room, a full bucket will hold no more water. The same goes for knowledge you have to have room in your mind and heart to accept what is being offered. And inturn if it turns out to be bad pour it out and add some more. In the long run you should always be pouring out the worst and adding the better. You will be a better coach, parent, player, worker, boss, neighbor, and person.

 

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As a coach I can teach a girl to hit, to throw, to field, and to catch, I can even teach one to understand how to out-think their opponents. But I can't teach a girl to be a good learner, I can't teach a girl to be open minded, I can't teach her to listen, I can't teach them to have a good attitude, no matter how interesting and exciting I try to make it. All in all your better teams are not nessecarily made up of the girls who have the most talent, the fastest, or have the strongest bats. The best teams will be made up of girls who listen and execute together better then the other team. A team will fail with nothing but talent if they don't get along and don't support each other. Your tryout is more about your DDs attitude and that of the parents as much as the coaches can get in the short time of a 2 hour tryout. If you are concerned about the coaches interview them, research them prior to the tryout. Know their history, if they have kids on the team, why they are doing what they are doing ( what motivates them).

If you are making the transition from rec to travel you are in for a big eye opening change. Your mind will have to be just as open as your DD's, sit, listen, watch, and learn. Then take what you have learned and practice it with your DD.

Don't mean to be "HILLBILLY", but for a bucket to hold water it has to have room, a full bucket will hold no more water. The same goes for knowledge you have to have room in your mind and heart to accept what is being offered. And inturn if it turns out to be bad pour it out and add some more. In the long run you should always be pouring out the worst and adding the better. You will be a better coach, parent, player, worker, boss, neighbor, and person.

great post! Well said and I agree!

Now, I was super curious about the title of this thread... can anyone get us into the good stuff??:cap:

 

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They are talking about you Les.

 

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thanks buddy! Now my self-esteem is all outta whack

 

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I doubt it was Lester's tryout..LOL

Lester, don't be stirring the pot now.

 

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I doubt it was Lester's tryout..LOL

Lester, don't be stirring the pot now.

ours was great... just ask me...

OQM, I'll sit back and watch you do the stirrin'... you've got a knack for that

 

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I do not want to know what org tryout they went to...LOL

Stirring the pot.. me ? NEVER. Opinionated about getting the facts out there to everyone. Sure, why not ?

TD's complaining to OFC people about me and the things I do with prizes and wanting me thrown off the site...LOL.... etc... just PRICELESS in my mind.

I could really stir the pot if I mention who I think are fair-weather TD's in this State and who is not... That's a topic for a new thread... started by someone else but me

I personally would love that thread to start up....:lmao::lmao::lmao:

Any takers

 

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While I don't know the tryouts attended, I do understand the OP's desire to have the girls evaluated for their current abilities. In another life, I was a college baseball coach for two pretty well respected programs (not DI or II) and both coaches I worked for held the philosophy that tryouts were for the kids to show us what they can do. If we were to try to correct mechanics at a tryout, it is completely counterproductive as EVERYONE gets worse at something before they get better - human nature because although you may be trying to do all that was asked of you, you will do it tentatively concentrating so hard on how instead of letting your actual abilities come out. If you want to see if players are coachable or have desire, there are alot of better ways to do it - namely by a short explanation of a drill - then let them do the drill - the coachable ones, while they may not do it exactly right if they have never done it before, at least will be close and will do it aggressively. That is what we looked for. One coach had a number of little pet peeves that he mentioned before the tryout (like standing right on the outfield foulline while warming up - trying to keep from wearing out one spot day after day) - if you can follow directions, know where to warm up and how we wanted them to, that is all you need to know about coachable.

Even with college kids, there is a great deal of anxiety at a tryout. We tried to limit that by letting the players be themselves, within the rules we supplied them. Changing mechanics at a tryout is just plain crazy if you want to see a player perform to the best of their ability.

 

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I like to take a kid I am interested in during the tryout and show her something new .. then I watch her eyes while I am explaining it to her... if they are consistently darting past me over to mom or dad every time I speak I know I may have an issue down the road with the parents.

 

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We attended a tryout this weekend. Our daughter was already offered a spot on the team after the first tryout but we wanted to go to the 2nd one to get a better feel for the organization. I guess we were almost trying them out as much as they were us.
It's important to know what you are getting into so that you are 100% sure of your choice. I'm there to look @ the current team and their fundamentals. I think it's very important for the current players to be there if you as an organization is trying to sell your team and the goal is to fill 3-4 spots.
Why would you be upset if the coach is telling your child their theory on how something should be done? You are there in hopes of landing a spot on this team yet you don't want the coach to give any advice? Use the information as another tool in your decision making. If you have strong issues with the techniques being tought - wouldn't you rather know that early as opposed to committing and finding out later? I do agree with the "non-clinic" mentallity but advice from the staff is much more important than writing numbers on a form.
Anyway, 2nd tryout was attended by approximately 20 girls. All ladies had #'s pinned to their backs (as usual). Coach is still looking for 3 players and tells everyone NO decisions will be made today. Interesting considering it is already the 3rd week of August and most teams have tryouts completed. I think if you see that special kid you better be ready to pounce.
No order to the tryout. All girls lined up randomly and no # calling by staff of players. Everyone pretty much just went whenever their turn was up. Coach didn't ask 1 time for their number or name.
Drill after drill (including timings) were completed and no #'s receiving notes on his/her form. One of the parents asked me "How does he/she know which kid is who when they aren't keeping track of who is who?"....to this I have no answer. Parent gets up and asks one of the assistants how they are keeping track when they don't know which kid is associated with which number - answer "not sure but this isn't their first rodeo".

Tryout complete - we go with a different team. Bottom line - if you are respected enough to have 20 kids show up to your tryout - you better respect them enough to give them your devoted time as well.

 

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Kudos to Hitter and 4the Game; unfortunately I have to echo the prior poster. After being told "all positions are open" sat behind a group of parents whose dd's were already talking about who was on the team. The girls all had numbers, but:
no one kept track of balls caught or dropped in OF;
plays made on IF;
3 girls hadn't batted when hitting eval uation was done;
and DD warmed up to pitch and then sat for an hour and a half as 2 girls threw about a simulated half-game, others got ten pitches. Again if I am going to give you my time, BE HONEST WITH ME. It was pretty obvious based on the conversations and observations the whole thing was staged to look at the two or three friends of girls already on the team they were targeting. Frankly that reminds me of the worst aspects of rec ball tryouts.....