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There is a major difference between "all positions open" and "all roster spots open." My team was only looking for 3-4 players. Any coach that bases their assesment of their returning players on one two hour tryout is nuts. If I had a girl that hit .500 for the season but had a bad tryout for whatever reason, do you really think I am going to look at a number on a piece of paper and cut her? Also, anyone that reallys believes that teams do not "pre-offer" roster spots to kids they want to keep are delusional. Additionally, why do you need to give a kid a bunch of balls to hit when you already offered her a spot and she accepted. I would spend the majority of my time with kids that have not yet recieved an offer. Also, I have never seen a coach let a legit player go in lue of a weak player. It's usually the #10 or #12 players on the bubble and then it comes down to the intangibles like personality, coachability, parents, etc. The best players NEVER complain about daddy ball because THEY PLAY. If you are constantly complaining about daddy ball/rec ball well then.......

 

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while i don't know the tryouts attended, i do understand the op's desire to have the girls evaluated for their current abilities. In another life, i was a college baseball coach for two pretty well respected programs (not di or ii) and both coaches i worked for held the philosophy that tryouts were for the kids to show us what they can do. If we were to try to correct mechanics at a tryout, it is completely counterproductive as everyone gets worse at something before they get better - human nature because although you may be trying to do all that was asked of you, you will do it tentatively concentrating so hard on how instead of letting your actual abilities come out. If you want to see if players are coachable or have desire, there are alot of better ways to do it - namely by a short explanation of a drill - then let them do the drill - the coachable ones, while they may not do it exactly right if they have never done it before, at least will be close and will do it aggressively. That is what we looked for. One coach had a number of little pet peeves that he mentioned before the tryout (like standing right on the outfield foulline while warming up - trying to keep from wearing out one spot day after day) - if you can follow directions, know where to warm up and how we wanted them to, that is all you need to know about coachable.

Even with college kids, there is a great deal of anxiety at a tryout. We tried to limit that by letting the players be themselves, within the rules we supplied them. Changing mechanics at a tryout is just plain crazy if you want to see a player perform to the best of their ability.

the best post yet !!!! I agree 100%

 

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ok .one last try .... i went to a few tryouts of some well known teams . and it was disappointing . for me as a parent and for my dd as a player becuase it seemed to go from a travel tryout to a practice or a clinic ......i guess im not interested in going to tryouts so coaches can take time to break kids down and teach them how to fundamentally throw the ball over hand . if this was a first practice of a team we just joined i wood be 100% fine with what ever the coaches need to or wanted to do to get the team heading in the direction they wanted ..... but as a try-out i wood think these teams wood have a set agenda of speed drills, in fielding drills, out fielding drills , and hitting ..... line the girls up and let them compete for the top spots ..... i just wish when teams announce try outs they could say come try out for this team so we can teach you how to hit and throw while we decided if we are interested in you playing for us !!!!! that way i can pass them up.....

Gee, sorry you are not being clearly heard.

You didn't like the tryout your daughter attended - you felt that it was run more like a clinic, where instruction was given, rather than an evaluation, where all players were judged on a set of standards.

You would like teams to announce that they will run pointless exercises such as you referenced above ahead of time so that you can avoid those tryouts. (But you would be OK with these pointless exercises in a practice. I would ask why the coaches would have selected the players that needed this kind of coaching, rather than better players, but let's not mess with the logic.)

To prevent disappointment in the future - become more proactive. First, many people post about tryout experiences on OFC. Clip and paste experiences about teams in which you have an interest. The tryout process for the best teams rarely changes. Second, call a contact ahead of time and ask about the tryout structure. The best teams will be open and share their expectations and experiences. Third realize that, especially at the young ages, suggestions for correction are a way to gauge the kid's ability to take direction. (I think it gets silly at the higher levels - just ask the kid if they are coachable or smarter than the coach).

If you were unhappy, and would not have selected that team, at the point you make that call, whistle your DD off the field and pack up. No harm done, and you are saving everyone, including yourself, time and stress.

 

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Try outs are what they are.... try outs! Some of you joke about breaking down the swing or drills or even the game itself and the girls just want to have fun! Yeah now laugh about it when daughter wants to make a team and her abilities do not match your expectations or the team she is trying out for.

I have said this before,"Softball and base ball is a game played by kids however it is orchestrated and run by adults and adults do not like to loose to kids or other adults!"

Hutch, the Coach at Michigan gives some pretty good speeches and one I remember from an NFCA convention was I pick the best 18 players to wear the Michigan M and you will wear what I tell you to wear and hit and field the way I tell you as I am paying for part of your education and my job is dependent on your performance on and off the field. The college coaches WILL try to change them, so get over it or get ready to sit out a year or change schools....whoops this is like try outs again and this is not what the college coach told us when we signed up!

Pretty simple and yet you as parents IF they get to the next level will have no involvement or you can take your kid home!

Coach Larabee and I hooked up about 3 or 4 years ago and I have said over and over I can tell if a kid can throw by the way they hit and he tried it and found the same thing to be true.

What are you doing to help your daughter improve their skills when you can not even get them to practice on their own? Are you going to hold their hand in college because if that is true you need to pack your bags and go with them. Work ethic is difficult to breed into a kid isn't it

Most of these coaches know these kids by now and the coaches know who they want and DO NOT want also and they know who the problem parents are also. They do not need your kid to field a team however they will find some kids to play for them.

The try outs are what they are and the people attending are not always honest either and neither are some of the coaches and their ability to manage 10 to 15 girls.

So you are going to attend or have or will attend tryouts you do not like for what ever reason, so get over it and you are not going to change their minds or coaching, teaching techniques either or how they run their tryouts.

Enjoy the ride or the adventure and learn from it and make better informed decisions and take a bat and beat the telephone pole in your yard or someone elses yard and I hope you feel better after you are done

Make sure it is an old bat or ask me for one as I have a few old one :lmao:

 

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HUH?! :lmao:

 

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Try outs are what they are.... try outs! Some of you joke about breaking down the swing or drills or even the game itself and the girls just want to have fun! Yeah now laugh about it when daughter wants to make a team and her abilities do not match your expectations or the team she is trying out for.

I have said this before,"Softball and base ball is a game played by kids however it is orchestrated and run by adults and adults do not like to loose to kids or other adults!"

Hutch, the Coach at Michigan gives some pretty good speeches and one I remember from an NFCA convention was I pick the best 18 players to wear the Michigan M and you will wear what I tell you to wear and hit and field the way I tell you as I am paying for part of your education and my job is dependent on your performance on and off the field. The college coaches WILL try to change them, so get over it or get ready to sit out a year or change schools....whoops this is like try outs again and this is not what the college coach told us when we signed up!

Pretty simple and yet you as parents IF they get to the next level will have no involvement or you can take your kid home!

Coach Larabee and I hooked up about 3 or 4 years ago and I have said over and over I can tell if a kid can throw by the way they hit and he tried it and found the same thing to be true.

What are you doing to help your daughter improve their skills when you can not even get them to practice on their own? Are you going to hold their hand in college because if that is true you need to pack your bags and go with them. Work ethic is difficult to breed into a kid isn't it

Most of these coaches know these kids by now and the coaches know who they want and DO NOT want also and they know who the problem parents are also. They do not need your kid to field a team however they will find some kids to play for them.

The try outs are what they are and the people attending are not always honest either and neither are some of the coaches and their ability to manage 10 to 15 girls.

So you are going to attend or have or will attend tryouts you do not like for what ever reason, so get over it and you are not going to change their minds or coaching, teaching techniques either or how they run their tryouts.

Enjoy the ride or the adventure and learn from it and make better informed decisions and take a bat and beat the telephone pole in your yard or someone elses yard and I hope you feel better after you are done

Make sure it is an old bat or ask me for one as I have a few old one :lmao:

AMEN!!!! :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo: