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Joe ... how could the game have possibly ended on that? If the ump didn't know the rule, but if either of the umps actually saw the catcher step on home plate, that would be easy enough to reference and have gotten the call right. I'm assuming it was discussed, but then the umpires didn't actually see the step on the plate which would have ended the game before the throw was made? Or the baseball coach didn't know the rule either and/or didn't realize until too late that the catcher had stepped on the plate. I know this could ordinarily be protested, but if I remember right there's no protests in high school softball and baseball, right? It's just unfathomable to me that the game could have ended on that ...

The most successful coaches I've seen at getting bad calls reversed tend to calmly get the umpire to tell them what they saw before showing their hand. Getting the umpire to agree on the underlying facts boxes them in and is often easier before they realize they blew it.

 

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Not sure if this is the place to put this, but since it is regarding umpiring and "bad calls".....

After realizing this particular umpire's strike zone was a postage stamp (which apparently moved, as well) a pitch comes across the plate. I can see it is belt high from my position in the dugout, it's called a ball. Catcher turns around and asks "where did that miss?" Ump tells her "It was low" She sort of gives him an incredulous look... he says, "You caught it palm up and when you do that it's a ball"

Ummm....

"Where was the pitch when it crossed the plate, there, Blue?"

 

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Coach2....sorry not trying to hijack, but I have seen 3 games in the last 2 weekends where it was obvious that the girl leaned into the pitch and is being awarded 1B as the umps don't believe that a girl would do this. All 3 pitches were inside change ups, 2 of the 3 should have been called strikes but they put their knee out and got hit, the other was over the plate but high and she bent down and turned her shoulder into the pitch. I know the rule changed that the batter doesn't have to make an attempt to get out of the way, but these were change-ups over the plate.

I am just wanting to confirm if its a strike over the plate and the batter gets hit its still a strike. The 3 umps we have had this happen with have not been on the same page.

It's a strike for every sanction. The rule change you mentioned is only under NFHS and NCAA rules where the ball is completely within the batter's box.

 

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Thanks SoCal