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    Re: GAPSS umps

    Quote Originally Posted by lewam3 View Post
    College coaches who are experienced know what a good pitcher looks like, regardless of what an ump is calling. When you have a crappy ump, they will look to see how DD pitcher adjusts to it, how she keeps her composure, etc. Your speed, movement, technique and demeanor is what is key and can be evaluated no matter what an inconsistent ump is doing back there. (that's what Ive been told by more than one college coach at least)
    As frustrating as bad umps can be, that's great advice that can be applied far beyond the ball field.

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    I agree they need to adjust to pitch calling but you can't adjust to bad field calls. I just feel there should be some kind of accountability.

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    No matter what tourney you are going to have "bad Umpires"
    Here's how I have approached it as a coach every year with my team ..... ( you can ask any of them)
    We will play a inner team game of 4 vs 4 vs 4 or 3 vs 3 vs 3 ....
    Catchers call the pitches and I get to umpire the game .....LOL
    Now I sometimes get it wrong... LOL... They get upset and I tell them that this happens in games get over it and move on! The coaches will deal with it!! .... Oh and my Calls ARE BAD!!
    I feel this gets them used to the fact that Bad calls are made!! Its all part of the game !
    Wait till you get in the big college games like the SEC and you get squeezed by the umpires ...you can either move on or complain or adjust and overcome....Its easier to move on and takes less energy!
    You have to be ready to move on to the next play!!
    I really feel we as a team do a good job of moving on and not letting it interfere with the Rest of the game !
    The coaches deal with the calls, the players play the game, and the parents stay out of it! Let the coaches do there job!
    So parents, Coaches, cheer on your players and help them learn to move on !!!
    Some times we feel it was that one call, but I'm sure there where more errors that caused the loss, not the umpires!
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    I was told there were bad umps. I didn't get to make it down this year but my DD (18U) said they were just inconsistent. Shes a catcher and she said after one game when she called me... "I'm still not sure where that Umpires strike zone is after 7 innings." No matter what tourney your in though there will ALWAYS be good umps and bad. Make adjustments not excuses...or something like that?

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    Agreed on having good/bad umps at any tourney. We had a mix at 14u. There was one older gent that called a very good game. He actually called spin pitches for strikes that cut the corners. Even drop balls thru the strike zone (not where catcher catches) and was consistent for both teams..
    I gave him a compliment after the game. Pitcher's work hard to get spin pitches for location. He understood that and said the strike zone has always been the same, I ask him to tell that to all his colleges, lol. The championship game had 3 umps, and all of them made great calls!

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    The picture is from a 14U game played at GAPSS this weekend. The ump called the runner safe, he said that the catcher separated the ball from her glove before she tagged runner. I understand that umps are human and they are going to make mistake, the problem i have with this is if you notice the ump is not even in position to make the call. The team fielding ended up losing the game by 1 run, not that it means anything, I am just saying.
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    We are all human and miss calls. But at the 18u level this weekend we had an ump tell the 1st base coach since this is a showcase this is a warning and he needs to keep his player from leaving early. So when do we get warnings especially at 18u. One would think if your going to give breaks to another team one would not say it loud enough that the opposing team wouldn't hear it.

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    This is the kind of crap I'm talking about. That field ump can see the play also and makes no attempt to correct a horrible call. That's the kind of terrible umping I'm talking about. Balls and strikes are absolutely subjective. That is just an ump changing the outcome of a game.

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    Re: GAPSS umps

    Quote Originally Posted by Byers View Post
    That field ump can see the play also and makes no attempt to correct a horrible call.
    No umpire is going to volunteer "Hey, partner, you missed that call".

    However, here's what you do:

    Calmly call "time".
    Address the umpire who made the call. Calmly.
    Say "Blue, I believe the fielder pulled her foot/missed the tag/interfered, etc. Can you ask you partner if he/she saw that?"
    The two umps will discuss. That's when they can overturn the call, if warranted. Or, not.
    *But the idea is to mention what you think you saw - don't go fishing and hope that somehow,some way you'll get the call reversed.
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    Re: GAPSS umps

    Bad Umps are like bad fields, bad weather, bad whatever. Their will always be "bad umps". There are always reasons why blue makes the call, however they are all outside of the control of players and coaches. Because calls are subjective, yes even the hit 14' in fair territory, its depends on who is on the receiving end. Most of the time one team or coach is bent. When both coaches see the same thing than you may have a legit concern. The problem is when you do, what do expect blue to change his mind? Unlikely.

    Just like getting your first two strikes as a hitter or balls as a pitcher, let it go and go get the next one. Control what you can.
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