Catching and Catchers discussion Catcher's Caught Stealing %

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Hahahahahah...post of the week!! Love it!

Finally a thread where I put on the daddygoggles .. last year teams wouldnt run against my dd ... her % percentage was 99% .. the other 1% that dope on 2nd missed the ball ... her pop time is measured in nanoseconds . Heck there has been times the hitter wont even approach the plate due to my dd's glare . They just take an out . true story bro ' MD

 

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agreed, possibly the month but it's early yet

 

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True Story.

2nd year 12U we were playing in the Semi's of a tournament and playing a team that liked to delay steal.

They tried to delay steal 7 times and got throw out every time. Catcher just ran right at them like the Waterboy......it got so bad even our parents were yelling at the other coaches. Talk about sticking to a plan regardless of the outcome. The funny thing was that our pitcher was struggling and they probably would have won if they would have just chilled out and let out girls melt down....sometimes coaches get too smart for their own good.

 

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Okay, the Waterboy line made me spit my drink. :lmao: I just get a vision of a little girl in catcher's gear dropping her head, making some weird steer sound and charging the runner.

 

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:lmao: weird steer sound...:lmao:

 

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You guys have no idea.

She is a hoot. A real high energy type.

Another great story about her. At 12U again, we were at a Smashing Pumpkin tournament in Ohio. Girl on 3rd 1 out. She takes the pitch, stands up and fires a laser over the SS head all the way to the fence. The girl on 3rd and her coach both froze. The coach yelled "get back". And then once the ball stopped against the fence the 2 looked at each other and she trotted home. I swear to god you could actually see short circuiting happen inside our catchers helmet. My wife (the coach) and the whole place just went silent.....you can not make this stuff up. The inning ended and the catcher did not even act like anything happened. I am not even sure if she remembered doing it.

 

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True Story.

2nd year 12U we were playing in the Semi's of a tournament and playing a team that liked to delay steal.

They tried to delay steal 7 times and got throw out every time. Catcher just ran right at them like the Waterboy......it got so bad even our parents were yelling at the other coaches. Talk about sticking to a plan regardless of the outcome. The funny thing was that our pitcher was struggling and they probably would have won if they would have just chilled out and let out girls melt down....sometimes coaches get too smart for their own good.

and they talk about HS coachs being Idiots ! in the semi of a tourney even !

 

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I was at the Be the Best coaches clinic last month and 1 of the coaches doing a presentation gave a staggering statistic. Last year in the Div. 1 College world series (best of the best, cream of the crop, etc) the base stealing percentage was 80%. I know you run when you know you can run but 80%??? I could not believe it.

 

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25s ... I assume you thought the % would be lower ... that the catchers would throw out more runners? Again, it doesn't surprise me ... as you allude to, caught stealing % is a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy in my eyes ... a coach isn't going to send a runner unless they figure they are going to have around a 70-80% chance ... and perhaps, in something as big as the WCWS, they might be a little on the conservative side?

 

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Your right Coach, I did think it would be better. I really never gave it a hard thought. I think the number just hit me like sticker-shock. After giving it thought, I think every age is a microcosm of every other age. Younger ages are not as skilled base runners as older players, but neither are the catchers. Although, I am stubourn and love to run. If a catcher throws out my first 2 steal attempts, it does not mean she's gonna throw out number 3. That being said, I'm also not a big fan of jamming round pegs into square holes either.

 

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Just wait till ManitouDans DD gets to Alabama as a freshman, she will change some stats.

 

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Old thread but dug it out because I was looking thru some college box scores and found an interesting contributing factor to the low caught stealing percentages for catchers.

Double steal attempt, lead runner thrown out at third, trailing runner still gets credit for a SB - stolen base and the catcher & pitcher get charged a SBA - stolen base against.

Guess if the catcher is good they're supposed to turn the double steal into a double play?

Ouch. Doesn't seem fair to the catcher & pitcher.

 

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Another dad ... correct ... though you don't see a ton of double steals such that it should have a major effect on the catcher's caught stealing percent. I always had to laugh anyhow about the meaningless statistic of stolen base percentage against a softball pitcher ... it's not like baseball at all in terms of the pitcher's contribution to holding a runner on base by looking them back or varying their motion.

 

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14u is when it really slows down.

 

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Another dad ... correct ... though you don't see a ton of double steals such that it should have a major effect on the catcher's caught stealing percent. I always had to laugh anyhow about the meaningless statistic of stolen base percentage against a softball pitcher ... it's not like baseball at all in terms of the pitcher's contribution to holding a runner on base by looking them back or varying their motion.

Do agree, keeping the SBA stat for the pitcher in softball is pretty laughable.

I've seen it more in D-I than I expected. More times than not when they try the batter squares to bunt and draws the 3B in and it's a foot race with the SS to the bag at 3. Have also seen enough times when the catcher has no choice but to either just hold the ball or throw it into left field but that is a SBA as well. Certainly not a new tactic.

Agreed, probably does not happen a "ton" but, when it does, it is a guaranteed minimum 1 for 2 failure rate for the catcher/defense if not 0 for 2. I would think the runner getting second would be scored as indifference. Seems its kind of like giving the batter a hit on a fielders choice.