Experience with A vs B

Discussion in 'Softball Parent Discussions' started by Statmom, Aug 10, 2018.

  1. Statmom

    Statmom New Member

    I would like to ask for feed back on what the difference is between an A sanction and B sanction. If I’m saying that correctly.

    I see in some of these bigger tournaments there is a mix of A and B and then I see some are only designated to A organizations or and B. I have also found some organizations have a mix where one 14u is A and one is B. Does it really determine the value of worth of a player in her future what she is on?

    I hear chatter a lot of “Oh they are a B organization” like it’s the plague. It really bothers me. I’m sure there’s been Bs beat As or what not. Again.. confused and still just trying to figure it all out. What is your true experience? We just want to do what ever we can, while we can to get our daughter to next level playing what she loves and shines at. Is she perfect, absolutely not! Is she the best, no.. that’s why we search so hard to find a coach and team that have same values and morals of wanting to truly coach, uplift and grow with them as a team and not just bask in reward. Sorry.. I got the best of myself there.

    Seriously, what is your experience and why? Thanks much.
  2. jpkeating

    jpkeating Member

    You will save yourself allot of headaches, don’t get caught up in the drama and bullshit of this org is better then that org.
    Just ignore it, find a good fit for your daughter. No matter what org it’s with
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  3. snoman76

    snoman76 Member


    Every girl is different and has different abilities. Softball is a game and games are meant to be fun. Getting caught up in the name on the front can take the fun out of the game.
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2018
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  4. wpaguy

    wpaguy Member

    Statmom, I think you are going to get a different answer for each response as it could vary from Region to Region and state to state. My DD is going into her 7th year of fast pitch in western PA and it has changed greatly over that time. Back around 2010-11 , All-Star rec teams were basically "C" level teams. Usually 90-100% of the team was from the same school district or rec league. "B" level was say 70% made up of local girls and maybe 3-4 players from other areas ....."A" level was wide open. fast forward to today and there is really only a hand full of True "A" organizations...Take 14u this past year in western PA ....Guessing around 50 teams, 40 of those in my opinion were "B" teams ....about 10 were "A" level and of those 10 about 5 could compete outside of western PA and have some success . Calling yourself a "A" team and only playing USSSA local events is a lot different than Being a "A" team and getting out and playing some other top competition ...So ask yourself are you ok going 3-3 on a weekend or did you need to go 5-1 and take home a trophy . Again this is all my opinion and based mostly on Western PA , and a little Ohio exposure

    USSSA = They have separate divisions A, B and even C ...Not really a fan of the C class division because I think it takes away from all-stars
    ASA ....I actually like its format better , you can register as A or B ....but tournaments are open format and you will play a mix ....This is great if your a B team looking for a challenge , not so great If you a good A team , you might have some blowouts
    PGF or USA Elite select have to assume they have the best comp ...You will not see any B teams ...

    It really comes down to the team , I have seen some very good "B" teams that can compete in A .....Also I'm seeing more and more Teams from Big name organizations that really should not be A ....so you have it both ways
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  5. 22dad

    22dad Member

    We prefer to classify as B to give us more tournament options. A 'B' team can play in open or 'A'. Point is look at the team's schedule and record, not just their classification.
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  6. BigZ

    BigZ Member

    All that self ranking stuff (that's right, most teams rank themselves) is just crazy. Don't worry about it for a minute. College coaches certainly don't. I have seen so called A teams get their butts beat by a B team who is looking to slide into an Open tournament and hide the fact that they are actually better. It's just nuts what some of these teams and organizations will do for a trophy or to make themselves feel good about themselves........like calling themselves, Platinum, Elite, Gold, Blood Diamonds etc.
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  7. Coach B

    Coach B New Member

  8. Coach B

    Coach B New Member

    Where we live we classify as B, simply so we can enter more tournaments, but we play A teams on a regular basis! Imho there's not a lot of difference, this past weekend we won an 18u tournament, but we're a 12u moving to 14u team!
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  9. Bob_Himmelein

    Bob_Himmelein Moderator

    You will save yourself allot of headaches, don’t get caught up in the drama and bullshit of this org is better then that org.
    Just ignore it, find a good fit for your daughter. No matter what org it’s with

    Every girl is different and has different abilities. Softball is a game and games are meant to be fun. Getting caught up in the name on the front can take the fun out of the game.

    Especially at 10U and 12U, let them have fun, keep the parents under control as far as expectations and let them enjoy the games,. win or lose.
  10. Tallmadge Force Gold

    Tallmadge Force Gold Active Member

    Sometimes C teams beat A teams. :)
  11. PaulP

    PaulP Member

    If your daughter plays multiple sports, it may start to get difficult to play on some “A” teams. That may happen on some good “B” teams, too, if they start playing in out of state or big tournaments.
  12. Xrayaries

    Xrayaries Active Member

    A,B,C really means very little IMO. However getting a coach to come watch a C tournament is difficult. They may stop by of they are close. The majority of college coaches recruits are in the A, B tournaments. I know that they have no problem showing up to watch at a B level tournament. 1-3 girls on most B level teams should play on an A level club. Same goes with up and down in division levels. Just make sure you are working the recruiting grind and they will come. This coming from a parent of B level player with plenty of college coaches interested in her coming to play for them.
  13. Bob_Himmelein

    Bob_Himmelein Moderator

    Just play in tournaments, if you want your daughter to be seen by a college coach, go to that schools clinics, let the coach know where she is playing. The true A level teams play in a lot of showcase type events. Remember, just because a tournament says they invited a bunch of college coaches, that does not make it worth the extra expense and travel.
  14. jayflyer98

    jayflyer98 Member

    I have a lot of opinions on this general topic. Bottom line is there is not a one size fits all answer. Best advice I can give parents of kids entering the 12-14U age is to find a team/organization that allows your child to play without fear or worry. If you can afford to travel the country to play, that is great. Just make sure your daughter is enjoying it and is not playing with fear or worry. If you can't afford it (like me) there are plenty of good coaches and organizations that will play a more local schedule. It is important where ever they play for them to enjoy the game, enjoy their teammates... They will not remember specific tournaments, wins/loses in 12-14U when their career is over, but they will remember if they enjoyed the time with that team/coach during those years. And if your daughter is good enough to play at the next level, they will get noticed. I promise you. And don't get caught up in DI or bust hype... I would prefer my daughter to play DIII and enjoy the game vs DI and having her feeling fear and worry..
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  15. Bob_Himmelein

    Bob_Himmelein Moderator

    Jayflver98 is correct, don't get caught in the D1 schools rat race. Your daughters should be playing for fun, sportsmanship and just the fact the are young and should enjoy themselves. I have been around tournaments a long time and it often seems parents need to chill and just let them play and enjoy the game and friends!
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2020
  16. LineDrive1434

    LineDrive1434 Member

    Pretty funny....I like that

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