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My thoughts MD

Jones was a beast carrying players and running them over a ANIMAL
Bosa occupied at least 2 guys every down
Meyer gutsy call if they make it people praise him. but wow I would not have made that call
cooper great coverage all night long shut him down

Safety(DB) yes stupid play to let wr get deep
Lane never been a fan
Derek Henry ? Thought he was a factor.
 
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SEC is down a tad this year, but actually more better teams in the SEC than just having 1 or 2 stud teams and some middle of the pile teams, then the bottom (UK and Vandy). SEC West the teams just beat up on eachother! Ole Miss is missing their best 4 players so I figure they would be drilled. Bama just caught the Bucks at the wrong time, but Bama is not Bama of old.

SEC has been the standard for the past decade in football so that will bring a lot of jealous fans with rage to come out after you finally win one. Don't care for the buckeyes at all but being a Tennessee fan I HATE Bama, and I was happy to see them win.

Big 12 is down, PAC 12 is not all that, ACC is really down, so maybe its the Big 10`s time to rise up and challenge the SEC for top dog. By the way what is with the BIG symbol for the Big 10 anyways, having 14 teams in the Big TEN confusing to them, lol.

Didn't matter if it was OSU or Bama whom won, I believe Oregon will whip either one.
 

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As great of a coach as Meyer is, and he should have been Coach of the Year in the Big 10 and nationally, that doesn't mean every decision he makes is correct. And the decision to pass (if winning the game is the only goal) simply cannot be defended. Meyer said after the game he knew he may have "screwed that up."

Here is the math, assuming my numbers are correct. There was 1:58 left when OSU got the ball. Because of the pass play, Alabama ended up taking over at 1:33. so the three plays and a punt took 25 seconds. If OSU runs all three downs, figure five seconds per play, leaving 1:48 when OSU runs its third down play. The 40-second clock would start about 1:42 and OSU lets it run out to take it to 1:02. After the punt, we're at about 55 seconds with Alabama taking over at its own 20, at best, and no time outs. That is nearly an impossible task. With 1:33 remaining, it's still a long shot, but gives Alabama 2 to 4 extra plays.

Urban Meyer is great, but he doesn't suspend the laws of mathematics. If the goal is simply to win the game, the pass play was insanity.
 
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Oh yeah (next thought)

SEC has 12 out of 14 teams that are playing/or have played in bowl games this year. No other conference can come close to that.
After Tennessee`s win over BIG Iowa today (currently winning 35-7 in the 3rd quarter) that puts the SEC back above .500 in bowl games.

Go ahead and bash Bama all you want...............cause Im right with ya!!!!!!! :0)
 

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Top 3 SEC teams lost. 2 of them lost to lower ranked opponents. Of the 7 SEC ranked teams, 5 lost, including one to an unranked opponent. The ranked 2 SEC teams that won played teams ranked much lower. So in simple terms the SEC was over rated this year.
 

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I loved the pass call on 1st down , it just should have been to their best receiver Devin Smith ! Im so happy we finally have an aggressive coach , I hated watching Tressell be conservative at the end of games ! SEC is 100% over rated not only did all their best teams lose their bowl games but the team that finished second in the SEC Mizzou lost to Indiana earlier this year ! Who ever they person is who said Big10 hasnt won a championship in 40 years must not of watched the 2002 championship game !
 
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Oh yeah (next thought)

SEC has 12 out of 14 teams that are playing/or have played in bowl games this year. No other conference can come close to that.
After Tennessee`s win over BIG Iowa today (currently winning 35-7 in the 3rd quarter) that puts the SEC back above .500 in bowl games.

Go ahead and bash Bama all you want...............cause Im right with ya!!!!!!! :0)


The SEC benefits from geography, not quality, when bowl selections are made. With many of the bowls played south of the Mason-Dixon line, it behooves bowl committees to plug in teams that will fill the seats, and having at least one team from the region team with a large alumni base accomplishes that. That doesn't make them a better conference (think how often Hawaii played in the Hula/Aloha bowl over the years!) and doesn't negate the fact that they simply aren't as competitive as they have been perceived to be in years past. Two head-to-head losses to teams that SEC fans turn their noses up at does actually mean something. SEC fans would point to any win over the Big 10 as proof positive of their dominance, whether it was by 1 point or 100. "Southern Logic", though, doesn't quite allow for the reverse to be true.

To use another poster's logic (aka "Southern Logic") Iowa simply was disappointed they weren't in a better bowl and didn't play up to their ability. Otherwise they are far superior to Tennessee and should count the game as a win and further prove Big 10 Dominance.

How many teams did they have in the Top 10 early in the year? Mississippi State, Ole Miss....the epitome of overrated. Auburn, too. And I can say that honestly having spent my undergrad years in the "Loveliest Village on the Plains." All the overhyping of the SEC over the years has produced what you characterize as a "jealous rage," which it is not. It's simply a heavy dose of reality being dropped on pollsters, committees, pundits and, yes, SEC fans, who are apparently unaware of their own inability to "act like they've been there before." (have you not been privvy to bama's "Heyyyyy (insert opponent here)...we just beat the h--- out of youuuuuuu!" cheer?)

But, I agree with you on bashing Bama at every turn!
 
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Lot of chest thumping going on , I guess when you are 0-10 against the SEC and you finally get a W its a big emotional release. I would advise to act like you have been there before, but with 1 title in 44 years I guess you just can't. Bama with 3 titles in 6 years just looked complacent. :)

Sounds like sour grapes to me. You obviously haven't been around an SEC fan when they beat some D3 team. Talk about crowin' and chest thumping. Oh, and when Bama finally won an Iron Bowl in this century? Priceless. But now, poor ol' Bama's just tired of winning all those games. Whatever stops the crying.
 

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image.jpg . Cause Bama Keeps coming up empty in the Sugar Bowl........
 
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The play call was suspect. However, I didn't hate it. If they execute it, GAME OVER. But what I did hate was they targeted Evan Spenser, who is a great Buckeye leader but not the most talented guy out there. If you're going to make that call you have to throw it to Devin Smith. But the best option would have been run the ball 3 times, make them use both timeouts, and then your punting while the clock is ticking under 30 seconds. I bet Jim Tressel nearly had an aneurism when he saw that play, LOL. But I love this coaching staff. SEC speed comments are a complete joke! How much speed did the Alabama defensive backs display as Elliot is pulling away from them down the sideline? The SEC has no more speed than we do, quit drinking ESPN cool aide... or moonshine.
 
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Our 3rd string QB is better than Alabama's #1, and that isn't even close. It's not about B1G vs SEC... I frankly don't care a lot about the other B1G teams except it was nice to shut all those blow hards up this year. But TOSU was clearly better than the SEC's best.
 
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Our 3rd string QB is better than Alabama's #1, and that isn't even close. It's not about B1G vs SEC... I frankly don't care a lot about the other B1G teams except it was nice to shut all those blow hards up this year. But TOSU was clearly better than the SEC's best.

I come from SEC country and I can honestly say that OSU fans are among the top most irritating fans in football. OSU hasn't been relevant for the past decade, but the minute they win a big game, all the true blow hards come out.

Hey OSU fan, do you know how irritating Ky basketball guy is? Guess what, you're the football version.

Drop the "we" (you're not on the team). Take pride in the fact that the team that you support (sometimes for most) won a big game. Be humble, and show some class. Act like you've been there before.

The Buckeyes played well.
 
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i come from sec country and i can honestly say that osu fans are among the top most irritating fans in football. Osu hasn't been relevant for the past decade, but the minute they win a big game, all the true blow hards come out.

Hey osu fan, do you know how irritating ky basketball guy is? Guess what, you're the football version.

Drop the "we" (you're not on the team). Take pride in that fact that the team that you support (sometimes for most) won a big game. Be humble, and show some class. Act like you've been there before.

The buckeyes played well.

lol..................
 

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I come from SEC country and I can honestly say that OSU fans are among the top most irritating fans in football. OSU hasn't been relevant for the past decade, but the minute they win a big game, all the true blow hards come out.

Hey OSU fan, do you know how irritating Ky basketball guy is? Guess what, you're the football version.

Drop the "we" (you're not on the team). Take pride in that fact that the team that you support (sometimes for most) won a big game. Be humble, and show some class. Act like you've been there before.

The Buckeyes played well.

PLEASE!!! I mean really? I seen and watched the Paul Finebaum show just for kicks. And all I've heard for the first 8 weeks of the college football season was how dominating the SEC was. How no one could compare. How it would be SEC vs SEC in the final game.

Well, I guess none of it happened and all Bama lovers got a taste of humble pie.
 
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Since the `92 season the SEC has been the dominate horse in this. Couple times there was a 3 year dry spell in there but that happens. SEC has a total of 202 national championships with all sports and an average of 7 per year since 1990. Not only dominates football in most years but all sports.

To Ohio State`s credit, they have changed their 3 yards and a cloud of dust thinking from the Woody Hayes and John Coopers days and brought in a SEC coach and recruited in a SEC fashion.
I will take some major heat on this comment, but OSU is a northern version of an SEC team now. Long as they stay out of trouble and not go under probation, they could have a nice run the next several years.

Keep this in mind, under the BCS product this year, it would of been Florida St. vs Alabama in the title game.

Winner
Score
Loser
Score
Site
1992
January 1, 1993
2 Alabama
34
1 Miami
13
1993
January 1, 1994
1 Florida St.
18
2 Nebraska
16
1994
January 1, 1995
1 Nebraska
24
3 Miami
17
1995
January 2, 1996
1 Nebraska
62
2 Florida
24
1996
January 2, 1997
3 Florida
52
1 Florida St.
20
1997
January 2, 1998
2 Nebraska
42
3 Tennessee
17

BCS National Championship Results

Season
Date
Winner
Score
Loser
Score
Site
1998
January 4, 1999
1 Tennessee
23
2 Florida St.
16
1999
January 4, 2000
1 Florida St.
46
2 Virginia Tech
29
2000
January 3, 2001
1 Oklahoma
13
3 Florida St.
2
2001
January 3, 2002
1 Miami
37
4 Nebraska
14
2002
January 3, 2003
2 Ohio State
31
1 Miami
24
2003
January 4, 2004
2 LSU
21
3 Oklahoma
14
2004
January 4, 2005
1 USC
55
2 Oklahoma
19
2005
January 4, 2006
2 Texas
41
1 USC
38
2006
January 8, 2007
2 Florida
41
1 Ohio State
14
2007
January 7, 2008
2 LSU
38
1 Ohio State
24
2008
January 8, 2009
1 Florida
24
2 Oklahoma
14
2009
January 7, 2010
1 Alabama
37
2 Texas
21
2010
January 10, 2011
1 Auburn
22
2 Oregon
19
2011
January 9, 2012
2 Alabama
21
1 LSU
2012
January 7, 2013
2 Alabama
42
1 Notre Dame
14
2013
January 6, 2014
1 Florida St.
34
2 Auburn
31
 

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Has the SEC been good, yes. This year was simply not as good. They were overrated. At best Alabama should have been a 4 seed but they were given the benefit of being in the SEC. Have you ever remembered a year that a major college team who hadnt lost in over 2 years and was the only undefeated team left was not number one? Oregon had the next best argument as they had the best out of conference win (Mich St). OSU probably should have been third due to winning at MSU and the blowout of Wisconsin. Alabama at four because their good wins were all in conference and came at home.
 
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Has the SEC been good, yes. This year was simply not as good. They were overrated. At best Alabama should have been a 4 seed but they were given the benefit of being in the SEC. Have you ever remembered a year that a major college team who hadnt lost in over 2 years and was the only undefeated team left was not number one? Oregon had the next best argument as they had the best out of conference win (Mich St). OSU probably should have been third due to winning at MSU and the blowout of Wisconsin. Alabama at four because their good wins were all in conference and came at home.

And the geniuses in charge of it all really were trying hard to keep Mississippi State into the final 4, and desperately clung to Ole Miss....and Auburn as long as possible. Boy, how Mississippi State really showed up strong against GT.:rolleyes:
 
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Since the `92 season the SEC has been the dominate horse in this. Couple times there was a 3 year dry spell in there but that happens. SEC has a total of 202 national championships with all sports and an average of 7 per year since 1990. Not only dominates football in most years but all sports.

You completely miss the point, as most SEC fans do. And this is really not heat, as you suggest. It's just a simple observation. Read the thread topic again: "SEC football overrated this year."

Let's break this down slowly: Foooooottttballlllll Bama has a great gymnastics program. I have a niece-of-a-friend who helped bring home few national championships there. The kid is a great story and I even gave her a few "Roll Tide"s because she is just a little more important than a rivalry. TN had a fantastic run under Pat Summitt (with the help of more than a few Buckeye girls). Hey, they probably have a great tiddlywinks team too. But the topic is Football. When you get handed opportunities as a self-fulfilling prophecy of the great sports prognosticators, you should convert those into some wins. When the "general consensus" is that a win in the SEC means more than in the Big 10, and a loss doesn't mean as much, then the circular logic benefits you right to the top.

Overrated: The perceived "dominance" you try to show being 20yrs is contradicted by the table you provided. 1992-2005, the SEC had 6 appearances in championship games, and were blown out badly by Nebraska twice. So, in that time frame, you have to admit that Nebraska and (God help me) The Big 12 dominated that period with 9 appearances and 5 wins. In the last 10 years, they have done great. This lead everyone to rate the whole conference in the top 10 (yes, I am exaggerating). Thus, with the finish they had this year, well below their rankings, it is fair to say they are overrated.

This year: Thank you for the walk down memory lane. Like most SEC fans, you live in the past, often one of your own concoction. It's a human thing. People everywhere fall into this trap. But we are talking this year. We all know that the SEC benefitted from every other contender being on probation in recent years, and some would say a reluctance to look too hard the Cam Newton situation in 2010. But hey, that's the past. Not this year, which is, of course, the topic.

And, of course, OSU has changed their offense, because it's the kind of offense Urban Meyer has been running since he was at Bowling Green and Utah. But thanks for giving them *some* credit.
 

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Not at all sticking up for Meyer's call because I was screaming at the TV along with everyone else. I also did the math, and felt we had a better than 50/50 proposition of getting a first down... it's not like they had shut the middle down on us. I wanted to see 3 runs straight up the gut because I thought we had a better than average chance of ending the game right there. I will say though in that situation I can see how it may have been too tempting for Urban to not try to go for the "knockout blow." He was clearly in it to make a statement last night and I think the prospects of hitting Alabama square in the mouth when they were on the ropes may have clouded his better judgement somewhat. You know that living room conversation with the FL kid who runs a 4.2 40 goes so much more smoothly after you have just not only beat, but embarrassed AL. I think he was trying to do a little coaching AND recruiting last night... that's my take on that otherwise insane call.
. Wow.. Questioning a coach probably wouldn't be good thing since u are a coach yourself. Have u ever coached in a game of that magnitude? It's easy to set in the stands and question the coaches decisions. Keep that in mind this spring when you blow a few games for your squad
 

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