Coaches - You are a JOKE!

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• May 7, 2008

• #61

Just real quick here...

1) I had no problem with them running. I just thought it was inappropriate to do it on the other team's home field. Again like I said... praise in public, condemn in private. Allow the girls to carry what little pride they have left off the field. My daughter played on a soccer team for three years where the coach ran the girls until some puked. If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen. I am OK with running. It was the PRIDE thing that frustrated me. Keep the girls pride up. I wonder how they will play in their next game. Will they show Pride in their play or not?

2) I know I am not the sharpest tool in the shed but I think I am smart enough to tell the difference between a 20 minute cool down and 20 minutes of HARD sprints. But like some folks said above maybe they do that after every game. If so.. so be it. I jumped the gun. My bad. I appologize. My only thought is if they do, then they should probably do a "cool down" after the hard sprints, cause the girls left the field after doing the hard sprints. As a side note: As the girls came walking back to the dugout the coach said something to the girls and they all took off at a full sprint back to their dugouts to gather up their equipment. Again. I am OK with this, but it seems to me, that you would want to cool down after running. But then again. What do I know.

 

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• May 7, 2008

• #62

Uber- that is correct. The catcher is not allowed to throw without coach's call on pick-off or stealing. There certainly are situations in a game where you don't want to risk the pick-off throw and that is the coach's call, but when trying to get the out on a steal fractions of a second can make the difference and having to listen for and filter out the coach's voice yelling to throw just kills any chance of throwing the runner out.

 

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• May 7, 2008

• #63

This isn't track people. Running shouldn't be a punishment. At this level these ladies know when they didn't perform and make mistakes. Address the issues at hand with practice. Running is to get better at running the bases. Not for punishment. Just my opinion.

 

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• May 7, 2008

• #64

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Uber- that is correct. The catcher is not allowed to throw without coach's call on pick-off or stealing. ?There certainly are situations in a game where you don't want to risk the pick-off throw and that is the coach's call, but when trying to get the out on a steal fractions of a second can make the difference and having to listen for and filter out the coach's voice yelling to throw just kills any chance of throwing the runner out.

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Yeah I agree, if its just a straight steal with nobody on base I believe that coach would be called a Micromanager lol.

 

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• May 7, 2008

• #65

? Maybe the coach felt their errors were made because the players gave up or were sluggish. Anyway, he took his kids on the other side of the fence away from parents and the opposing team. In my opinion it doesn't matter if it was at your field or his. 20 minutes of sprinting was probably good for them. Quick bursts are part of the game.There are thousands of coaches out there and everyone does it differently. I'm still looking for the coach I agree with 100% of the time ?.

 

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• May 8, 2008

• #66

fastpitch1373,

I understand everything you said about pride, etc, etc. My issue is that you called all coaches a JOKE. Your points would have been better made without that as a headline.

 

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• May 8, 2008

• #67

>>>>>>>>>WOW>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

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• May 8, 2008

• #68

Well, its probably time we put this one to bed, but I think the overall opinion is that running is standard procedure in any, physical, athletic sport. ?I don't think there's any proof that the Coach getting the bad wrap here was punishing the girls at all. ?Maybe they run after every game, win or lose. ?Nobody, but the Coach, the parents, and the team, know for sure. ?We have to stop assuming we know the reasons other people do what they do. ?When I see a team running, my first impression of the team and the coaches is discipline and committment. ?I usually think to myself "this team is probably going to be a tough one". ?9 times out of 10, it proves to be true. ?We run in our organization, alot. ?The girls are used to it, they expect it, and they have never complained about it being humiliating, whether on our field or someone else's. ?As a matter of fact, I don't think they give a hoot what other people might be thinking. ?I'm not saying they enjoy it, but they realize its part of being an athlete....especially a competitive one. ?And as far as the "Coaches, YOU ARE A JOKE" comment, I'm pretty sure the majority of these wonderful coaches, contributing their time & talents to these young girls, haven't lost any sleep over it. ?Coaches, keep doing what you're doing. ?I see more & more talent with every softball season. ?Our coaches deserve a huge amount of credit for that. ?I'll see you on the field.......and possibly "running" after the game!

 

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• May 8, 2008

• #69

Are we talking about softball or playtime at recess. If the coach is teaching them fundamentals and is generally good then what is the problem.
I advocate parents right to expect quality coaching but the level of babying and whining is unreal. This is softball! There is nothing soft about it.
If the coach is truly a clown and isnt teaching them correctly yet is a win at all costs coach then complain about their instruction.

I really really hate to compare things but nothing could be more critical to be prepared for under pressue and require discipline than being in the military.
If you havent been they do not hesitate to make you run or embarrass you for just about anything. It is a tried and true method of stripping down your individual selfishness and work as a unit.

That is an extreme example but the same a little tamer methods have been successfully used in sports by some of the greatest coaches in history.

Maybe the coach senses that the team has attitude issues or no cohesion. Maybe they are employing a classic move of making them all angry with the coach. They at least have something in common then and will start to band together.

You may be surprised that the very coach they complain about at the end of the season they end up loving them.

Most of the great coaches have had methods many intitially disagree with.
If they did the same thing everyone does they wouldnt be great.

This is truly a sad commentary as these days a coach is relegated to just teaching the fundamentals. Any character building will be met with hard criticism from parents and apparently alot of self proclaimed experts on this board.

 

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• May 8, 2008

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wgman21 said:

[quote author=eatsleepfastpitch link=1210031526/50#59 date=1210195296]Running is part of playing sports. ?I think this stuff gets blown way out of proportion. ?

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I agree, we're talking about a game where girls run. If they made the chess club run for making a bad move, or losing a match, then you might have a reason to overreact. ?
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They should make you run every time you play a bad hand when your down at Mountaineer!

 

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• May 8, 2008

• #71

If I did that - I would be ready for the Marathon next year.

 

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• May 8, 2008

• #72

NICE!!!! May be you and the WGMAN21 can go sweatin to the oldies with RICH!!!!

 

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• May 8, 2008

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This is truly a sad commentary as these days a coach is relegated to just teaching the fundamentals. Any character building will be met with hard criticism from parents and apparently alot of self proclaimed experts on this board.

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Unwarranted punishment is not character building! Do you come home from work and punish your children because you had a bad day at your job? No? Then why should it be acceptable for a coach to punish their girls because of a bad day at their coaching job?

 

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• May 8, 2008

• #74

Wings big tonight!!!

 

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• May 8, 2008

• #75

When the going gets tough... the tough get going. That's what builds discipline and character.

 

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• May 8, 2008

• #76

I guess I am a little ""Freaky. Can you roll the "Dice" at WVa?

Hummmmm......

 

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• May 9, 2008

• #77

?Hockeybuckeye,
Why are you assuming it was punishment. Were you in this teams dugout. 20 minutes of running or jogging is not gonna hurt a teenager unless she needs running and jogging. All parents are not gonna agree with every decision a coach makes. I'm still looking for that coach I aree with 100% of the time. Relax let the kids play! The best conditioned teams have the best chance to win on sundays.

 

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• May 9, 2008

• #78

I'm glad to see that there still are some normal joes in the world. The rest of you need to get over it. Some of the crap that our coaches did to us back in the day , man some of you woud have them in front of a firing squad in todays world. Look at us we didn't have to go to theraphy or have a mental breakdown because we ran for punishment or our coaches smacked us upside the head once in a while to get our attention.

Get over it and quite MICRO Judging the coaches. You made a decission to let your kids play for the team . If you don't like what you see durring the season then make a change for next year. Coaches arn't perfect they are going to make mistakes . They arn't going to call the game exactly like you would , and of course because your in the stands your allways right. Please give the men and women that volunteer all their time to spend with our kids a little breathing room and make a decission over the long haul and quit judging them over every little thing.

 

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• May 9, 2008

• #79

Try playing for a Greek from the old country. It'd never fly today

 

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• May 9, 2008

• #80

Punishment would be to send them home with no words and letting them eat junk food, drink mountain dew and watch Brett Michaels Rock of Love. If running a little only hurts the girls feelings I am OK with it. Running is good for you and it is like saying excersize is punishment when we know it is not. Kids today are spoiled to no end and there are small percentages will old school work ethics. Life is full of challenges, embarassment and people who will try to tear you down, get used to it. The joke is the guy on here lumping all coaches in to one mold while he sets back and plays Monday morning quaterback. There are usually reasons for everything that outsiders do not see like, the coaches credentials for getting that job, goofing off that spawned the poor performance but you would rather judge then look for rational. I think it would be fair to say that allot of coaches would not want a parent like you for more than a season any how.