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• May 27, 2008

• #1

We had a good call this weekend. We have a runner on first & 2nd. The girls are doing there lead off on every pitch like there suppose to do. The girl on first is walking back to first after the pitcher gets the ball in the circle, never stops. The ump calls her out because she is not back to the base before the pitcher touches the rubber. Of course the ump comes up 2 hours later to tell us he was wrong. Just given a heads up in case this happens again.

 

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• May 27, 2008

• #2

what basis did he call her out on ?

 

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• May 27, 2008

• #3

Huh !?!?!?!?

 

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• May 27, 2008

• #4

He said she had to be back on the base by the time the pitcher stepped on the rubber. We tried to explain to him if that was the case than we could just have our catcher fired the ball back to our pitcher and she would be on the rubber and everyone off the base would be out. How dumb does that sound, and he still couldn't understand how dumb the call was that he just made. This was the base ump. The home plate ump just said I thought as long as she didn't stop she can be off the base. EXACTLY.

 

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• May 27, 2008

• #5

This is why I always carried $100 in cash with me to games, just in case I had to pay the fee to file an official protest with the UIC.

Now that I am coaching exclusively in high school, that $100 is in case I get ejected for arguing stupid calls and have to pay a fine to be reinstated!!!

 

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• May 27, 2008

• #6

It was $500.00 to protest, and we had the parents that was going to front the money. If it was a close game, that is exactly what we would have done. The weekend is over, we have moved on, just wanted to give a heads up, in case someone else would get this call. I know it will not come from the same ump. Since he knows he was wrong.

 

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• May 27, 2008

• #7

$500?!?!?!? Come on get real. Why not just say no protests allowed. Just give each coach 2 red flags for the whole tournament that they can throw on the field for a UIC challenge. Once his two flags are gone, no protests for anything.

 

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• May 27, 2008

• #8

I'm guessing someone didn't want to hear ANY complaining!!

 

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• May 28, 2008

• #9

As someone no longer associated with Ohio softball, and not having to worry about whom I offend, I feel completely comfortable with saying that whoever made that decision, be it a tournament director, UIC, sanctioning body, etc. does not have either the best interest of the athletes, or the true spirit of fair competition at heart.

Charging $500 for a coach to ensure that a team had been given the fairest possible opportunity to compete is a joke, and I would have strong reservations about patronizing whomever made that decision, as I would bet that that was not the only short-sided he or she had made.

 

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• May 28, 2008

• #10

OK, from reading the posts we can tell the Tourney. ?I have read all the entry forms and this is not listed on the web site. . Did they tell you this when you arrived. I have played in the tourney over the years and ?we plan on again this summer, ?perhaps I never read the $500.00 part. ?We need to hear from one of our life members who runs this tourney to find out why such a high fee. We have always had good umpires at this tourney, but last summer I had an issue with an umpire talking on his cell phone while umpiring the game at first base.

 

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• May 28, 2008

• #11

Our team received a email from the tournament director listing the tournament rules, and this $500 protest fee was listed as rule # 5. I did not see this fee on their website or the entry forms either.

 

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• May 28, 2008

• #12

I get it!

 

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• May 29, 2008

• #13

Thanks softballer24. I thought when I read the rules it was $500.00. I read them before each tournament, because everyone has there own rules. Overall the umps were great. Your not going to get every call. We had other calls some we thought went our way and some we thought went the other way, but you learn to live with that. At least the ump admitted he was wrong, sometimes you don't even get that. I thought the tournament was ran very very well, and pulled in some great teams, and would like to go again. I just didn't want anyone else to get called on this.

 

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• May 29, 2008

• #14

Missing a call is one thing. Ball/Strike...Out/Safe...Fair/Foul...mistakes or misjudgemants happen, but this is just idiotic. I'm curious as to why the plate umpire didn't take the base umpire aside and correct him? Or was their just the one ump? Secondly, how about the opposing coach coming out to help with the clarification? That might be one of those times when I would actually want to help the opposing coach argue to get the rule right because in just a few minutes I'm going to have to deal with the same silly ruling.

 

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• May 29, 2008

• #15

That is a good question. If the home plate umpire knew the call was wrong, why did he allow the call to stand? Thankfully it didn't effect the outcome of the game, but it did end the inning. I really thought the home plate umpire should have overturned that call since the base umpire clearly didn't understand this rule.

 

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• Jun 2, 2008

• #16

seems poor umpiring happens frequently. cost us a tie this past weekend. time running thin. ball out of play. running almost to third. field umpire gave runner home. opposing coach argued about where runners were. plate umpire had no idea where runner was at the time the ball went out of play. runner was sent back to third and batter who was on the way to second was made to go back to first. i discussed with both umpires after the game. it was agreed they made the wrong decision. opposing team went on to get 2nd place. Congratulations to them!!

 

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• Jun 2, 2008

• #17

After not convincing the umpires the call was inaccurate, I would have simply had my pitcher walk each batter and instruct my catcher to immediately fire the ball back to my pitcher who would conveniently be standing on the rubber. Walk - out, walk - out, walk - out...time to hit!