Tournament Directors ?

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• Feb 17, 2009

• #21

Coach Tamanini said:

I'm not going to discuss the returning of emails, but I do know a few years ago, there were some very angry people that felt as if they were used when I posted a list of teams that applied to a tournament that I ran, and they eventually did not get in. So, despite people clamoring for it, I stopped listing teams until they were officially accepted.

What people have to realize is that while tournament directors have a huge responsibility to the softball community they are serving, the customers, so to speak, are never satisfied. There will be people nit-picking and second guessing on every side of each decision made. So, for those TDs that are putting forth an effort to do things right, cut them a break.

These men and women (for the most part) are not professionals, and are trying to do their best. Much of developing and running a successful tournament is trial and error.

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Here, here! Not to mention many of these people are coaches/parents that are working full time jobs and trying to do extra to cover the cost of ball this summer. This leaves them little time to get on OFC regulary and try their best to communicate. It seems if you do not respond within 1/2 day people get irratated when the reality is the person hasn't been on to see the question. I know I feed 90% of the information to our TD who is extremely busy and now fighting a power issue with the computer.

If we were one month out from a tournament, I could understand the demands being made, but this started hardcore in January when many teams still are looking and making choices into late February if they did not get into the elite touraments. JMHO.

 

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• Feb 17, 2009

• #22

Mom, we arent talking 1/2 day replies. We are talking weeks and no replys or emails. I think alot of us are tired of T.D. who dont care and just are in it for the money!!!I have been a T.D and I always tried to reply within 1 or 2 days I don think that is asking alot !

 

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• Feb 17, 2009

• #23

For all of my tournaments, I post the teams that say they want in and whither they paid a deposit or paid in full. Not once has anyone complained about that to me. Also i reply as soon as i get a call or e-mail. Granted I and home bound right now and can be on the computer all day.

Jon Allison
TD SpringFling1
TD SummerSlam3
TD FallOut1

P.S. Shameless plug for my tournaments.

 

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• Feb 17, 2009

• #24

pcaba-coach said:

Mom, we arent talking 1/2 day replies. We are talking weeks and no replys or emails. I think alot of us are tired of T.D. who dont care and just are in it for the money!!!I have been a T.D and I always tried to reply within 1 or 2 days I don think that is asking alot !

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Bruce,
I apologize if it seems like I am unavailable at times. With a newborn and a full-time and part-time jobs (Mama's disability only pays 6 weeks, the other 6 are unpaid), some days I do not know if I am coming or going or if it is a weekend or week day.

I am getting a better handle on scheduling time, but I am still overwhelmed at times. I apologize if I am slow at responding, but I appreciate all of the help you have been giving me on my tournaments.

Mike

 

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• Feb 17, 2009

• #25

Mike, you have been nothing BUT super !! I have atteneded your tournaments in the past and will continue to in the future, you always give it 100% rain or shine. I am NOT referring to you on here. Folks, if you havent gotten in 1 of Mike's Tournaments before, I will tell you here is 1 T.D. that will always try to give it his best!

 

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• Feb 17, 2009

• #26

feistymom said:

I know I feed 90% of the information to our TD who is extremely busy and now fighting a power issue with the computer.

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Maybe you need to be the one posting the info to help out your TD. If a TD is to busy to do the job they volunteered to do then delegate. I do not expect our TD, of our tourney, to do everything that is why people are appointed to help. If it?s an organization putting on a tourney then delegation is need and I don?t want to attend if one person is trying to do it all.

If it is a "professional" TD he better be in contact or he won?t be in business very long.


If a tourney does not have teams that have been accepted to a tourney, full or not, posted by now, teams WILL and are finding other/better tourneys to play. Good teams will seek out competition and if its not listed they will go else where.

 

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• Feb 17, 2009

• #27

Fair statement wshflthinking. It just is very strange to me that teams even list whom is or is not in the tournament. I never heard of this until moving to Ohio. I would take and educated guess that this is most likely due to the forum usage being so high.

 

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• Feb 18, 2009

• #28

Bruce,

I appreciate the kind words. I try to keep the listings updated because there are so many teams taking a "wait and see" stance on who is entered or if anyone is entered.

My early May tourney and late June tourneys are a little slow right now, but I anticipate getting enough teams to hold both. In the past, these have been the slower to fill and when we got into March and April entries started to pick up.

Thanks for all that you folks do.

 

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• Feb 19, 2009

• #29

Any word from the Mods?

 

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• Feb 20, 2009

• #30

Coop24, I think they are ignoring us ??

 

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• Feb 22, 2009

• #31

Talk about tournament directors. Imagine you enter and pay for a tournament with a 4 game guarantee. Three days before the tournament, it is changed to a 3 game guarantee for the same fees. Reason: Greed and incompetence. After 9 years of running indoor tournament the people at the Spano done can't do the math and figure out how many teams they can take and give what teams pay for, and what they advertised months in advance to deliver. They said they took to many teams.

12 out of 28 teams were not given there forth game. But they allowed ten minutes more per game. If this was pulled in an outdoor tournament in the summer no one would stand for it. Thats close to $1000 taken in beyong what was right. (12 X $85 per game)

Fields were lined once at the beginning of the day 8:00 AM. What kind of lines do you think were left 16 hours later at midnight?

When I asked to be credited for the game we didn't get.
Mr. Spano said he didn't make a dime. took in close to $10,000 (28 X 350) plus $6.00 per person for admission.(@10 parents per team thats another $1,500 plus) Plus concession etc. It was all about the money.

Its a nice place. Just give what is paid for.

 

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• Feb 23, 2009

• #32

Can you say FT. Wayne Dome.

 

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• Feb 24, 2009

• #33

Coop, we will be there !

 

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• Mar 2, 2009

• #34

So whats the real break down of the tournament fees that are paid by the teams? Minus the costs of the umpires. What is the hosting teams take? Is it different from state to state?

 

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• Mar 3, 2009

• #35

Well you have to pay for the diamonds you use,trophies,softballs,umpiers.It really adds up.And i think it is hard to charge a team $375-$400 for a tournament the way times are now it is tough for everybody.But teams need to make money to keep thier teams afloat.

 

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• Mar 5, 2009

• #36

At the Spano Dome the umpire (1) per game was payed $20 per game. So out of the $350 entry fee that left $320 per team plus the admission charges to cover the heat since he didn't buy trophies either. I would have no complaint what they made if they gave the 4 games they advertised. I would never go back.