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Got this email from my DD's pitching coach today, thought I would share with you. It has some very good information in it. Good Luck to all this High School Season.


I certainly envy all you high school coaches as you start your season this week!!! One of my favorite times in coaching was the end of practices and scrimmages when I would turn the game over to the players to see what they can do. I felt that if I did my job in preseason practices by preparing them to play the best that they can, then the wins and losses take care of themselves. The game was my turn to have fun. So, GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL!!!!

Please use caution with your pitchers!!!! Irregardless of what you hear, you can use your pitchers too much. Amie and I take a lot of pride in teaching a method that is the safest and healthiest for their bodies. The problem we have is that because the method is so fluid and is so easy on the body, we do get overuse injuries. What happens is that they don?t feel any pain and it creeps up on them gradually and before they know it, they have a major injury on their hands. Beware especially of pain in the elbow and pain in the upper shoulder. Those are the areas that we notice in our pitchers who have been shut down.

How much is too much???? If you have a game every day in the week and you use your #1 pitcher for every inning, I would be shocked if you had a healthy pitcher after the first week. I know you want to get the games in but, please be realistic. Coming out in the early season, the weather not the greatest, the body not in outside shape and throwing every game all week and then a double header on saturday??? If she isnt hurt right away, you are putting her on course to have an overuse injury, if not by june, then by july and august as she throws in the summer. Some of you really do not have another pitcher and I know this. But, use someone who can get the ball over in a non conference game. Set your schedules so that you have teams that you can rest your #1.

Are the records worth it???? I know that many pitchers have some lofty goals and are looking to break school and state records. But, from my experience the game has changed so much that many records are going to stand for years. Pitchers used to be able to throw a fastball and a change and do well. Today's hitters are training as much as pitchers and can go deep in the count, they can foul off pitches and put a lot more stress on those arms than what pitchers in the past had to deal with. Now, many of you don?t even let your pitchers throw fastballs, having them throw only movement pitches. This is fine if you give her rest, but the constant stress on the arm while throwing, drops, curves, rises and screws is tremendous. Way more pressure than a fastball.

What to do??? Be reasonable, think about the safety and health of your pitcher. Use ice after games. Watch her innings. Look for signs such as her massaging her arm, or constant stretching on the mound, anything that shows discomfort. As far as practice, if she is your #1 then give her days off. I liked to let her pitch and then nothing the next day if possible. If she throws multiple days then give her a couple of days off from throwing. When she does practice, then a maximum of 30 minutes of hard throwing.

Batting Practice??? I know that many of you do use your pitchers in what you call "live hitting" and this is okay to a degree. Your pitchers should never be told to just throw fastballs or to slow it down so they can hit???? Are you crazy??? You could be facing a lawsuit if she gets pounded in the head from a fastball by one of your good hitters who had seen so many that she was just crushing it. And slowing it down??? Do you want to take all her practice and throw it out the door by making her throw with bad mechanics??? Pitching is a hard skill to learn and from what I see, it is so easy to get bad habits so why tell them to do something that just isn't right? So, If you do use your pitchers for live hitting, let them throw their stuff and give them a time limit. NEVER!!!!!! EVER!!!! JUST PUT THEM IN THE CAGE AND SAY, "THROW FOR 30 MINUTES OR EVERYONE IS GOING TO HIT OFF YOU WITH NO BREAKS!!!!! OUCH!!! I can feel her pain now.

Well, good luck to you all again and I hope you heed the warnings and take the advise that I have given in order to keep that pitcher healthy for your season.
 
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Good advise, thanks fpitchdad. Mine isn't in high school, but it is good advise for any age.
 
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This is good stuff. DD is pitching in college and has been struggling with a wrist injury since October we believe is related to the coaches love of the screw ball.
 
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Thank you for this. I had my 10U dd read this. She was not happy, but she understood.
 
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just curious and let me say i am not a pitching coach nor do i claim to be.i have seen a few girls i know one inparticular throw 4 to 5 games a day and has never been injured is that because she gets rest during week or just lucky
 
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I got the same email fstpitchdad---definitely some good advice!
 
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just curious and let me say i am not a pitching coach nor do i claim to be.i have seen a few girls i know one inparticular throw 4 to 5 games a day and has never been injured is that because she gets rest during week or just lucky
Take it from a college pitchers dad. DD was a workhorse. Had over 1000 K`s in high school.Won over 80 games in high school. Pitched a ton in the summer for the Lasers. NEVER had a problem with pain in her arm. Once she pitched 7 + 17 +7+7+7 in 24 hours in a high school tournament. (45 innings)
By the middle of her Jr year in college, her knees had had it.She was sentenced to center field to keep her bat in the line up. Nothing but pitching irritated her knees. There are other body parts that can wear out over time. Her arm was always fine. (actually she loved the outfield.) Just use common sense, and if you think she is pitching too much, she is, speak up.
 
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i guess it makes sense just have always heard oh the pitching motion is different doesnt hurt arm and seems to be accepted by most because i have never heard of a limit on innings a fastpitch player can pitch.but have always thought it weird .on my 12u travel team we are blessed or cursed not sure we have 4 really good 12u pitchers but no dominant ace.a few of them are making strides to be the go to girl though.played a team this winter that hit ball really well i actually threw a different pitcher every inning of first four innings just to try and neautralize them a little worked pretty well.
 
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Like anything else, some can take the pounding and some can't. Never know if you can't take the pounding until one day something gives up. Is it worth it? Best to use some common sense and caution. Hard part is to know what is still OK, and what is too much. I'd agree with punchout, if you wonder if it is too much, it probably is.
 
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Here's another twist.. How many people do you know with curvature of the spine that needed surgeries? I have only ever heard of 4, and they were all pitchers. Two right here in Columbus area and two in Florida....
 
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Take it from a college pitchers dad. DD was a workhorse. Had over 1000 K`s in high school.Won over 80 games in high school. Pitched a ton in the summer for the Lasers. NEVER had a problem with pain in her arm. Once she pitched 7 + 17 +7+7+7 in 24 hours in a high school tournament. (45 innings)
By the middle of her Jr year in college, her knees had had it.She was sentenced to center field to keep her bat in the line up. Nothing but pitching irritated her knees. There are other body parts that can wear out over time. Her arm was always fine. (actually she loved the outfield.) Just use common sense, and if you think she is pitching too much, she is, speak up.

This is one of the kids that will be held up to the new pitchers and be remembered by the coaches of some 12U team as a great pitcher. This is like the rest of the story.....Thank you for sharing it.

Just because a kid can do it doesn't mean that she should be asked to do it. At some point some one has to step in and say enough is enough; 45 innings in 24 hours seems like a good place too start. Can you remember who won the tournament let alone the games? It is very hard stop this lunacy but perhaps if her high school coach had his head screwed on right she wouldn't have that knee injury which she will pay for the rest of her life.

The pitching motion is very tough on the entire body and over-use injuries lead the list. These are not limited to the arm but start at the ankles and move up through each joint and muscle group, looking for the weakest link to expose. The notion that the windmill is such a natural motion and can be repeated indefinitely is just insane.

Furthermore, when a pitcher is worked this hard she can not be improving. She can't be working on getting faster, getting more break or a new pitch. She can't be pitching in practice. She is struggling just to maintain her current level. The coaches responsibility to improving his players abrogated.

Those of us with older pitchers owe it to the kids just starting out to change this mindset. Kids should not be worked this hard; period.
 
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As far as curvature of the spine, my oldest daughter had scoliosis. However, we caught it in enough time that a chiropractor was able to fix the problem--before it progressed. Both my daughters have been pitchers at some point, but the curvature runs in my family.

My youngest, who is pitching in college, also gets large knots in her shoulder area that have to be worked out on a regular basis.
 
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a girl who had pitched for stow had stress fracture in her back from pitching
 

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