ASA-Just don't seem right

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I have to agree with you here. Updates on the web are spotty at best and here at ASA Eastern the fields are definately not drug,sprayed down or even lined every 3 games let alone every game.

I am right now at the ASA 14U A Nationals in Maryland. Fields are raked and lined after every game, perfect fields. Temp fences. The umpiring is the best I have EVER seen. Water jugs and cups at every field for all to use and they check them constantly. No cooler police. Very well organized. Pool games were an hour forty while bracket is 7 innings, no time limit. Not even alittle thing to gripe about except our play sometimes. LOL

Oh wait, one thing to bitch about, it is frickin hot and humid but they have lots of shade trees here.
 
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I honestly think USSSA and NSA will see a boost for the 2011 season after ASA fumbled in 75% of their venues in 2010. Sure, a blind hog finds an acorn every once in a while just as ASA put on a few good events, but for the most part it seems ASA has lost lots of it's appeal.
Seen a lot of first class teams playing USSSA this year so the tide may be turning a little.

JMHO
 
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I honestly think USSSA and NSA will see a boost for the 2011 season after ASA fumbled in 75% of their venues in 2010. Sure, a blind hog finds an acorn every once in a while just as ASA put on a few good events, but for the most part it seems ASA has lost lots of it's appeal.
Seen a lot of first class teams playing USSSA this year so the tide may be turning a little.

JMHO

GOD-like attitudes will do that sometimes :lmao:
 
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As long as the majority of college coaches attend ASA sanctioned events, that's where the "A" teams will be regardless of the issues at hand...I don't care for having to purchase Bollinger insurance...but I do understand the protection factor of the ACE certification, and background checks. I'm not silly enough to believe the all mighty dollar isn't behind some of this, but honestly...I'm willing to pay knowing someone who shouldn't be around kids might get filtered out with the checks, and a coach might pick up some positive strategy through the ACE certification.

I do think the certification and checks should last at least two years, and they need to figure out a system for coaches who already have background checks due to their jobs and/or coaching HS, and those who already take the state course for coaching high school.

On a side note, Northern Nationals in KY was very well run...fields were lined after every game, quality umps, hour 40 minute pool games, 2 hour bracket games, and they delt with wet fields and management of a two hour rain delay without eliminating any games or reducing time limit (course we played till like 2:00 am).
 
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I hope some will weigh in on this...

Team ABC plays in XYZ tournament in mid-summer. XYZ tourn. is an ASA qualifier that offers the option of playing in an A or B division. Team ABC plays in A division and places 1st. Team ABC is later found to be listed in field of teams playing in ASA "B" National tournament. This cannot be right.

Calls were placed to several ASA officials (Commisioners) just to make sure we are interpreting the rules correctly. (A no-brainer really)

Paraphrasing the responses...it is not within the ASA rules and the integrity of the ASA but a commisioner can sign off on or approve whatever he wants. Again paraphrasing, "you would hope their would be more integrity than that, but ASA commisioners do have that autonomy" ???

Purpose of this post is only to see if that indeed is how things can be governed within the ASA...If so....Sumpin needs fixin!

Why worry about what other teams are doing or where they should or shouldn't be?
 
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First, what is the goal of the team? If it is to have fun playing softball and they don't really care about playing ball after HS, then go for it.

If the girls on this team have the intentions of playing college ball, then they are in for an uphill battle.

When teams apply for the "Big" showcase tournaments, they have to submit a resume of the past seasons accomplishments so that the selection committee has something to base their selections decisions on. When the selection committee see ASA "B", that is an immediate turn-off. This team will not get an invite to any of the "Big" showcases.
 
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As long as the majority of college coaches attend ASA sanctioned events, that's where the "A" teams will be regardless of the issues at hand...I don't care for having to purchase Bollinger insurance...but I do understand the protection factor of the ACE certification, and background checks. I'm not silly enough to believe the all mighty dollar isn't behind some of this, but honestly...I'm willing to pay knowing someone who shouldn't be around kids might get filtered out with the checks, and a coach might pick up some positive strategy through the ACE certification.

I do think the certification and checks should last at least two years, and they need to figure out a system for coaches who already have background checks due to their jobs and/or coaching HS, and those who already take the state course for coaching high school.

On a side note, Northern Nationals in KY was very well run...fields were lined after every game, quality umps, hour 40 minute pool games, 2 hour bracket games, and they delt with wet fields and management of a two hour rain delay without eliminating any games or reducing time limit (course we played till like 2:00 am).

First off, 1 hr 40 minute time limits is mandatory.. So nothing special there.

Now, I know of Brenda Petty the TD at the event. She is a wonderful TD that is for sure. But, it also makes it great that you as a TD can control your final destination like she could.. because she is not only a VP of Kentucky ASA.. she as well is in total control of the County Park system in Bowling Green, Kentucky. Afterall, she is the Director of the Parks and Recreation.

So, when you have that much control over your tournament.. you can't go wrong.

To me, it was a shame concerning NSA here in Ohio. We have to be honest here... NSA Nationals is a nice event. Reason why.. It's not run by Ohio NSA !!! Bottom line. Poor management of NSA is to be blamed for the debacle of Tealtown.. not Tealtown themselves. I feel sad for Tealtown to gather that "name". I really do. Nice people there. How they would ever dream of having 168 teams in one location and not plan for rain.. is absolutely amazing to me. :confused:

That's just stupid management in my opinion.

I know you all think I am the "new guy on the block". Maybe in the girls side I am ( 3 years going on 4) but as being a TD... I've been one for years now. 1984 to be exact. Just on the men's side.

When I lost my DD to a car accident a few years back... I wanted to make a change in how things are done here in Ohio. She was a player. And I as a parent spent huge amounts of money as well for her to play and travel rec ( as I wouldn't let her play travel just yet.. a decision I have thought about for three years now.. especially since she is gone ). Fair-weathered TD's are all over Ohio. They have cost me money as a parent for their lack of knowledge of how to get a field up and going again after rain. We have read and saw the comments on the threads. All of us.

But, teams for some reason, keep going back year after year after year :confused:

You all will figure it out sooner or later when the parents start barking, especially in this economy right now, at coaches to make a wise decision on going to an event based on the available to play in adverse conditions.

Someday, you all will figure it out. Hopefully soon.
 
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I am right now at the ASA 14U A Nationals in Maryland. Fields are raked and lined after every game, perfect fields. Temp fences. The umpiring is the best I have EVER seen. Water jugs and cups at every field for all to use and they check them constantly. No cooler police. Very well organized. Pool games were an hour forty while bracket is 7 innings, no time limit. Not even alittle thing to gripe about except our play sometimes. LOL

Oh wait, one thing to bitch about, it is frickin hot and humid but they have lots of shade trees here.

Did you forget about Walking Tacos??

Len
 
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Why do most teams go to the ASA World Series? Do they go expecting to win it? HECK NO! Sure they may hope, but most teams go to measure themselves against the best. Playing against the best competition makes us better, and those are the teams that are at the ASA World Series. If you drop down from "A" to "B" the only reason is to win. Now you are showing what you're in it for. I would RUN from that organization/team!

I like this response. :)
 
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Lady Knights...No worrying involved with the post...Motivation for the post was based on what is right is and what is wrong. Since the post I have heard in person from a couple ASA "officials" that were responding to other people/coaches that had inquired about this.

Was told that this scenario was in fact NOT in accordance with the intent of ASA and their berth/qualifying guidelines. My original suspicion was confirmed that commisioners CAN sign off anything they want as it relates to this subject.

That's all I was looking for in original post...confirmation... received and put to bed.

Off to coaching retirement now so believe me...no worries!
 

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