15U Vs 16U

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This may be a goofy question coming from someone who's daughter has played travel for awhile, but if you make a 15U team do they play mostly 16U teams? I've not seen many 15U teams. This is DD's last year as 14U and some of the organizations she wants to try out for have both 15U and 16U. What's the difference?
 
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15U must play 15U teams and above, so yes, she'd be playing primarily 16U teams. All 15U is, is a way to separate girls by birth years if an organization has enough girls in those age ranges to form 2 teams. Some call 15U "first-year 16U".
 
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I keep all of the players on the team the same age to avoid turnovers year after year. For me, it insures some continuity in the development.
 
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USSSA does seperate the age groups into a 15U and a 16U for World Series play and in most tourneys around here all of the teams are lumped together to play, but bids will be handed out seperately to 15U and 16U teams. Another reason to keep the years seperate, especially if you like to play USSSA.
 
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I was thinking about that, but when I went to the USSSA web site for Ohio - South, there is only 1 single team listed under 15U. Not much competition in that "age class" when there's only 1 team. Does 15U really have its own World Series?


USSSA does seperate the age groups into a 15U and a 16U for World Series play and in most tourneys around here all of the teams are lumped together to play, but bids will be handed out seperately to 15U and 16U teams. Another reason to keep the years seperate, especially if you like to play USSSA.
 
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I think that some of the teams may not be aware they can be 15-u if they are a true 15-U (not aware of 15-U, maybe 1 player that puts them over 15-U status). Also some of the teams entered on the USSSA website are put in by directors as 16-U when they are true 15-U's. I have done this in 11/13-U because I was not aware of there status until they handed me there rosters at the tournament check-in table.

There are separate world series for the "odd" year age groups (11/13/15-U). Ohio USSSA is trying to see if National USSSA will host those "odd" year ages on separate weekends than the traditional worlds to give the girl's a chance to play there age and the traditional age group as well since they are eligible in both groups.

In the 2010 season, there will be at least 2 tournaments with sign-ups for 15-U and I am trying to secure a spot to host true 11/13/15-U state tournaments. In a couple of my qualifiers, I am offering 11/13/15 with the premise that they may have to go into the traditional age group if the entires are low.

It might take a season or two, but Ohio USSSA is going to try to get these teams a place to play if they choose to.

Please contact me via PM if you have ideas on how to make this grow or just want to get on my e-mail list for the 2010 season.
 
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usssa has a future if they continue to work on it..u gotta love the umpire's red shirts
 
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I still call them "blues" in the utrip games. I blame it on my hearing problem.
 
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USSSA does seperate the age groups into a 15U and a 16U for World Series play and in most tourneys around here all of the teams are lumped together to play, but bids will be handed out seperately to 15U and 16U teams. Another reason to keep the years seperate, especially if you like to play USSSA.

We are going to Columbus Indiana and playing in the USSSA Class B 16u world Series. There are 52 teams so far. If you go to the USSSA web site and click on Fastpitch and then Indiana, World series, Click on the #52 and it will bring up the list of teams. They have us listed towards the bottom because we are registered as a 15u team. If they lump then together, we should be rated 3rd in the group of teams.

I put in an email to find out why. My question is do we need to change our status to a 16u team? To get a higher rating. In USSSA, rating does matter some what.

If it doesn't matter we should not have to do anything and fall somewhere in the top 5
 
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I was thinking about that, but when I went to the USSSA web site for Ohio - South, there is only 1 single team listed under 15U. Not much competition in that "age class" when there's only 1 team. Does 15U really have its own World Series?

CincyFury,

We are #1 in the state baby, yeah :lmao: From the post above , you can see the my delima I am in now. I don't think it did a bit of good to registrar as 15u team. There is one World Series in I believe Kansas City going on this week. It usually draws only about 20 teams though.

Oh yeah, we were the only team listed
 
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Exactly...when we found out where the 15U tourney was we decided we would go USSSA 16B in Columbus, IN......closer ...and we have been able to compete a little bit with the 16's this year so may as well stay closer to home.
 
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Thanks for the help! Looks like we just may try out and if she makes a team, she'll go where she's offered and needed!
 
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Does your daughter have any desire to play college ball? The second half to that question is do you, as parents, want her to? Not loaded questions by any means, but the answers will steer you in two different directions.
 
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Sammy...yes to both questions. Why does it make a difference? Like I said, these may be goofy questions, but I need to learn!
 
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While it's fine to play on a 15U team, I would not look for 15U tourneys. It's always good to play against more experienced players and teams to see what it takes to get to a higher level.
 
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I keep all of the players on the team the same age to avoid turnovers year after year. For me, it insures some continuity in the development.
^ Especially helpful if you can get a group of "like" ages together at about 12u. Most teams lose bodies for enough other reasons without adding "age attrition". If anything, try to recruit "younger" players that are motivated to challenge themselves and play up when the team moves to the next age bracket.

Sammy...yes to both questions. Why does it make a difference? Like I said, these may be goofy questions, but I need to learn!

No such thing as a goofy question!! And YES it does make a huge difference, depending on your goals. From what you're saying, it sounds like your DD is at the prime college recruiting age - or will be next summer. I might get crucified for some of my opinions, but I'm going to give my HONEST opinions here. IF your DD truly wants to play college ball, there's a LOT of hard work involved, but nothing worthwhile comes without sacrifices - right?

With those goals in mind, you need to ask the travel coaches at tryouts some key questions. On top of that question list is "What tournaments did you attend LAST summer, and where do you intend to play NEXT summer - and WHY? Make it clear to the coaches what your DD's goals are. With a little research, you'll find a list of teams that tend to provide that avenue for their players. Assuming your DD is a quality athlete, encourage her to try out for a team "she thinks is above her talent level". Challenge her to play up to the best of her ability!

It's no secret (and common sense) that college coaches want hard working athletes that are committed to challenging themselves on the playing field. They want kids who can show they have the skill and drive to play at the college level. She needs to be able to write a letter next spring to college coaches with a list of TOP LEVEL tournaments her team will attend. Coaches DO look at what teams are playing in tournaments, and they KNOW what level those teams are. If your DD can say she's playing against the best, those college coaches will definitely want to see her perform.

Playing what amounts to "community level" ball won't get the job done. There are a TON of these venues in summer, and they fill a necessary spot in the scheme of things. It's a known fact that college ball is not on everyone's list, and that's fine. I'd rather see a girl playing rec. level ball with a smile on her face than a college bound player with a bad attitude! Figuring out which level is best for YOUR DD will save a LOT of anguish!

Finally, do your homework about what sanctioning bodies (ASA, NSA, USSSA, etc.) host these competitive showcase tournaments. Better still, take your DD to a few college camps this coming fall and winter, and ask the college coaches DIRECTLY what summer tournaments they recruit at and why. College coaches are a GREAT resource for answering recruiting type questions, so get your money's worth at those camps.

Hope that helps...
 
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You know Sammy, those are some great points and suggestions. I think I will have my DD read your reply also. College is what she says she wants to do, but her actions tell me differently some days. My husband and I believe she's very talented (we are bias), but have had other people tell us the same. Maybe it's the fact that she's 14/15. If we're to put the time and effort into doing all of these things, she needs to bring it also.

Thanks for your help and suggestions. I'm not one to criticize people's opinions. I appreciate your help!
 
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