Both bats are great,paint job on the 08 is pretty cruddy..DD's bat deemed illegal during ASA State but she carries her 2004 and 2009 just in case 04 paint job is holding up great the 08 paint started bubbling up on the bat soon after purchase and paint flakes off . She knocked the end cap off last Sat......Oh well,bat was done for in ASA play anyway luckily we played USFA last Week.