Calling time

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Often if one of our base runners slides into a base and the fielder won't take their glove off of them while their foot is on the base I ask for time out and get it so my runner can stand up. 99% of the time I get the time out no problem.

Had an ump the other day refuse because the ball wasn't returned to the circle. Is that right? Theoretically they can keep a runner laying on the dirt all day waiting for her to make the wrong move.

There was no other runners on base at the time if that makes a difference.
 
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Technically the ball is still live and the ump has no obligation to give time, but when it comes to the common sense side of things....

Can't say I have ever heard of this before, typically once the dynamics of the play have subsided the blue will call time to allow the player to get situated and continue the game. Was this a time-limited game? Were you threatening to take the lead?
 
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Just kinda smacks of poor sportsmanship to me...not letting her get up without the glove on her. C'mon---she slid safely, now let's get on with the game.
 
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I hate that!! If you don't get the out, throw the ball to the pitcher and move on. Holding the tag for 30 seconds is a waste of time and the games are short enough already, just play the game!!
 
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Irritating to say the least. These kind of tactics are just asking for a fight to break out. Girls holding a tag for too long or sitting on another player to keep them from reaching base or from getting up. Bound to happen if one of the girl's is hot-tempered or even if she is not. I know I get irritated every time I see a girl holding a tag for what seems like an eternity.
 
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Technically the ball is still live and the ump has no obligation to give time, but when it comes to the common sense side of things....

Can't say I have ever heard of this before, typically once the dynamics of the play have subsided the blue will call time to allow the player to get situated and continue the game. Was this a time-limited game? Were you threatening to take the lead?

yes they were time limited. Had the same ump for two games regardless of the situation or importance of runner he was consistent. One game was close and the other we were already comfortably ahead. He came up to me and said he couldn't (USSSA) give time out till the ball was in the circle.

Went to diamond next door same day / tourney and played a game, asked for time in the same situation and got it no problem.
 
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It's an attempt to intimidate by the defensive player.

Louuuuuise always says "I'll lay there all day without calling 'time' , it gives me a chance to catch my breath..."
 
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I'd lay there all day and make the opposing coach look like the (enter edited word here) he/she is.
 
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Calling time in this situation is at the discretion of the umpire. There isn't any rule that says the ball has to be back in the circle.

This is one of two situations where I see calling time get abused a bit. The other is when an infielder gets the ball, like on a throw in from the outfield, and the infielder immediately asks for time.

When an infielder has the ball and wants time, at that point runners can still legally advance. Calling time here can deprive them of that chance. Also, the defense is responsible for getting the ball back to the pitcher. You can have a wild throw or the ball might even go out of play. The umpire really shouldn't "help" the defense by relieving them of making a good throw back to the pitcher. Rule of thumb on this one: Don't grant the request for time.

The other is when a runner slides into a base and there is a play, often she will request time to stand up or dust herself off. IF...there are no other runners advancing, or no other imminent play, go ahead and grant time. Doing so doesn't give the runner any advantage.

When a fielder is "holding the tag" on a runner, I tend to grant a runner's request for time. BUT...before granting time too fast, there are a couple of things to watch for:

- Make sure that the runner has firm possession of the base. If there was a slide, make sure the runner is "holding the bag" and isn't still off-balance or in danger of coming off it. Runners DO overslide, overrun and lose contact with bases and can liable to be tagged out.

- Don't let the runner "off the hook" for maintaining contact with her base by granting time too soon. If the runner would still need to adjust her footing, or shift her position around to demonstrate "secure possession" of the base, wait a moment before calling time. The runner still has some responsibility to securely "hold the base" on her own.

- Watch that the "long tag" doesn't become a "hard push". The fielder cannot try to physically push the runner off the bag. If the fielder puts a little too much "push" into "holding the tag" and causes the runner to lose contact, when she otherwise would not have, the umpire can award the runner the base.

"Excessively holding tags on runners" is one of those game actions where the umpire has discretion to manage the situation as sees fit. You never know how players are going to react to this in a game. It can run the gamut from to "no big deal" to "delay of game" to "unsportsmanlike conduct" depending on how it plays out.

One thing an umpire can do to manage this is to speed the players along. Enforce the notion to them that holding tags will gain no advantage and they need to tone it down. For instance, if the tags are delaying the game or becoming rough, the umpire can repeat his safe signal and say to the fielder, "She's still safe!. Throw it back to the pitcher". (It helps if you say it in your grumpiest "mean old umpire" voice, signaling your disdain for the tactic.). This usually cuts down or completely eliminates "excessive tag holding".
 
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I would have to agree with most, sounds pretty bush! (I hate to do this again!) But as an umpire, most of us call time anyway, brush the dirt off the base, giving the young lady time to get up, dust herself off and than play on!
 
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An offensive coach can call time and time SHOULD be given to the runner when asked. If there aren't any other runners on base... it does not go against the offensive team to ask for time.

If the offensive team is asking for time... they essentially are giving up all rights to a live ball situation.

Why doesn't common sense rule in this situation? Because umpires are taught to never give time.
 
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Why doesn't common sense rule in this situation? Because umpires are taught to never give time.

I think that "never" is too strong a word.

Of course, there are plenty of rules that require us to call time when the ball becomes dead. We also have the discretion to call time anytime we see fit, to administor any base awards, brush the plate, speak with a coach, deal with an injury, take line-up changes, adjust our equipment, get a drink of water...whatever.

What umpires should be taught is to not excessively and unnecessarily call time. Keep the ball live as much as possible. You don't want to call time if there is any possibility of a play. Nor do you want an inordinate amount of "downtime", as that can slow the pace of the game. Keeping the ball live as much as possible keeps the flow of the game moving along at a quicker pace.

About the only place in the rules it specifically tells us to NOT grant requests for time is when a batter asks for time as the pitcher begins to deliver the pitch. If the batter asks for time at that point, her request should not be granted.

Infielders calling time to get the ball back to the pitcher, runners wanting time after a slide and batters requesting time outs while pitchers are preparing to pitch are three of the tricky times when the umpire has to use his discretion on calling time. Each situation will be just a little bit different and the umpire may call, or not call time, as it best fits the situation.
 
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I can see coaches using this as a way to burn time off the clock in time games if the umpire does not give time. I hope I am kidding but I am sure there will be that one team.
 

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