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Hmmmm.........
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The greatest team on earth?! Sounds like steinbriener jr. is drinking the go juice again. There's suddle ways to "take care of business" on the field. That was bush leauge. Now I will grant you Yankee fans, you do have the greatest clutch shortstop on earth. God I hate to see that guy come to the plate with the game on the line. But still, he was sitting at home with "Gnat Neck" after my Tribe got done with em last year. Tell me those gnats swarming around that sweaty, stinky neck didn't gross you out.
GO TRIBE!!!!!!!
GO TRIBE!!!!!!!
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Intentional or otherwise, the slide had every appearance (especially when viewed in real time) of being done to take out the SS. So given the history, I probably would have interpreted it the same as the umpire.
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Taking out the SS to break up a DP...Totally Legit...
Spikes High...Illegit
Spikes High...Illegit
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I'd like to go back to the play at the plate and have all that thought it was hard nose play to imagine it was a girls fast pitch game and it was your daughter who was catching.
Now, what would your thoughts be?????
Now, what would your thoughts be?????
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That was just a dirty slide, and not just because it was a Yankee. It is a dirty slide if you are a Padre, Brewer, or Astro. The play at the plate was a hard nose play, maybe too hard nosed for a spring training game, but if a catcher is on the tracks they should expect contact with a train (runner).
I have always taught my DD catcher to have her head on a swivel when there is the possibility of a play at the plate. She knows to get out of the way and make a sweep tag, or if need be to be in way of plate. Sometimes I think she embraces the contact a little too much for me, but she knows what can happen and has dished out enough contact from behind the plate as she as absorbed to her 5'7" 115 lb frame.
I have always taught my DD catcher to have her head on a swivel when there is the possibility of a play at the plate. She knows to get out of the way and make a sweep tag, or if need be to be in way of plate. Sometimes I think she embraces the contact a little too much for me, but she knows what can happen and has dished out enough contact from behind the plate as she as absorbed to her 5'7" 115 lb frame.
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Howard-- I haven't played professionally nor at any very high level of fastpitch or baseball, so I don't have an insight to what the players expect and what is expected of them by the owners. However, I spent 30 years in the military and I do know there is a difference between simulated combat and being in a situation where you can actually get shot at, so I get where you are coming from.
I think we are trying to get across the same point--that is, the weekend tournaments are not professional but are played by sports loving amateurs. We wouldn't expect our catcher to be plowed over. And, we sure hope our baserunner would not do something like that in which they could also get hurt. I feel confident that if that type of slide happened at a weeeknd game, then there would be lots of "activity " from the fans, coaches and teammates of the catcher. I would hope there wasn't a parent or coach on the other team who referred to it as "hard-nosed" play.
I 100% agree with your thoughts on the corners playing up so closely--scares me at all age levels.
I think we are trying to get across the same point--that is, the weekend tournaments are not professional but are played by sports loving amateurs. We wouldn't expect our catcher to be plowed over. And, we sure hope our baserunner would not do something like that in which they could also get hurt. I feel confident that if that type of slide happened at a weeeknd game, then there would be lots of "activity " from the fans, coaches and teammates of the catcher. I would hope there wasn't a parent or coach on the other team who referred to it as "hard-nosed" play.
I 100% agree with your thoughts on the corners playing up so closely--scares me at all age levels.
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In the world our girls play, there are rules about plowing the catcher over and they should be upheld because it is a rule to keep them from being needlessly hurt. I have seen it called on only one out of four occasions and that umpire didn't even hesitate ejecting the runner.... The other ones were just as blatant but not called.
The girls are not playing Pro style rules, nor should they be expected to ever follow the cowardness of the major leaguers, especially the pitchers in the majors who don't ever hit, but throw at batters....
But then again it's the Yankees go figure......
The girls are not playing Pro style rules, nor should they be expected to ever follow the cowardness of the major leaguers, especially the pitchers in the majors who don't ever hit, but throw at batters....
But then again it's the Yankees go figure......
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Does Shelley Duncan have size 18 feet or something? ? His feet are larger than the distance from Akinori Iwamura's waist to his knees. ?
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TD thank you and that is all I was trying to point out...I only had 4 years in the Navy 68 to 72. Wow 30 years, THANK YOU for your service!
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