Florida verbals 2023 player

[Pacerdad57]

Any other thoughts on Florida verbaling a girl that will graduate HS in 2023??

 

[okiedad1961]

Heck ,I guess when you verbal you don't really have to be able to write your name yet.lol

 

[cam.p22]

There is a reason its called a 'verbal commitment'. Lots of things can change in the next 5-6 years

 

[Pacerdad57]

Girl hasn’t even hit middle school yet. It’s a bit early to say she even maintains interest in softball till then

 

[9ball]

It's not binding to either party, so what difference does it make?

 

[manitoudan]

I just verballed to the 2028 olympics .

 

[wpaguy]

I'm not sure I agree with a 7th grader getting offers, but I'm not going to pretend I'm not impressed either. She may be that 1 in 1000 pitcher that has it all. Hard to throw a 66mph screwball without a ton of hard work and help from the right coaches at that age. I read her mom is a Tincher Pitching coach and she see's other Tincher instructors as well. My daughter switched to the Tincher method about a year ago , and I really like the results so far.

 

[weekendsoftball]

I am not going to comment on whether it is right or wrong to verbal while in middle school. The softball recruiting process as a whole is crazy....hopefully we will see some "official" positive improvements in the coming months. I will say that this girl is a stud and she works very, very hard. I have seen her pitch many times and had her play for me for a tournament our Thunder Elite 04 11u year. She is a great kid from a great family with a great work ethic.

 

[BigZ]

Having been through this early commitment process many many times, the only thing I can add is the only winner here is the school. The school has absolutely nothing on the line and can change their mind anytime all the way up and until the offer is signed by the school. If she is part of a group of "stud" pitchers that Florida is getting early commits from then time will only tell which one actually gets the scholarship (or portion). If the school over recruits as many SEC schools do, the athlete could suddenly (in her junior year) find out that Florida has changed it's mind. Right now the athlete is going to be off most college lists in the future. Other schools are inclined to back off an athlete once they hear that they have committed. Perhaps not in this case because it's so early but there is absolutely NO reason for an athlete to commit until their junior year or even later. If this girl is truly as good as folks in this thread are indicating she can have her pick of just about any school at anytime during her high school years. Schools will wait for "studs".

 

[Heavy Hitter]

This is never going to change until the NCAA makes coaches change. I hear all time about how coaches hate the early recruiting but they keep doing it. Until it NCAA makes it illegal for college coaches to talk a kid for any reason or a coach or anyone about a kid for any reason, inculding camps, until their junior year it is not going to change.

 

[JoeA1010]

I don't think it's going to change whether a rule is in place or not. Here is a post I just made on FB...

While seemingly everyone is in favor of the new regulations being discussed to stop all recruiting discussions until junior year, I am dubious, at best. First, I’m not sure whether a new rule has been drawn, so I would need to read it before being sure of anything. But if it simply says college coaches may have no discussion with anyone about recruiting until the start of junior year, this is a complete fail. Bottom line, it’s not going to happen. Similarly, coaches are not permitted to recruit other college athletes right now, but it happens all the time through back channels and nobody is ever held accountable. The same will occur with this new rule. The effect will be to give an advantage to those willing to skirt the rule and make things more difficult for those following the rules.

The better rule, in my opinion, would be to allow NLI signings in ninth grade. The NCAA will never entertain that, so I don’t think any rule is going to be effective. I think the better solution is that we go the football route and get rid of the custom of not recruiting girls who have verballed to other schools. Football verbals now barely mean anything and nobody blinks an eye at a school or an athlete backing out of a verbal. Isn’t that ultimately where we want to be, where there are no early verbals, or at least ones that hold meaning?



https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...LW1nHcn0PE0C5aEm6o8Baz4wiioHTUMk9PKWHV3HyeSH_

 

[FastBat]

I told this story, a Class of 2023 grad verbal'ed to Florida, to a few people who had been through the recruiting process many years ago and they were trying to correct me; they said it was impossible. My daughter is in the Class of 2023, I think that also made it seem even more impossible. I still think kudos to this little stud player!

 

[CARDS]

Its great the young lady was impressive enough to catch the eye of the coach.

The problem that gets over looked is close to 50% of athletes that commit before their Freshman year of HS are one and done, transferring schools or leaving college all together. Obviously not a desirable outcome.
Its hard enough for a HS Junior/Senior to know what they want to make their life’s work let alone asking a 5th/6th grader what they want out of a collage.
At these early ages its still yet to be determine if the athlete can handle the rigor of high school let alone college. In some cases early verbal’s contribute to a decline in athletic potential and by the time they are college ready the school could have underwent AD or coaching changes that could make the athlete no longer fit the need. EX: School changing divisions or confrence.


Here is a quote from a good article on this subject.

“To their credit, coaches everywhere are openly uncomfortable with the fact that early commitments undermine the student’s opportunity to find the right fit in a college. The most decorated coach in Division I women’s soccer, Anson Dorrance of UNC, describes early recruiting as “destructive” to everyone involved, and yet he and other coaches continue to seek early commitments. There is pressure to be successful and compete at the highest level, and talent is the key to that success.

Fixing the early commitment issue will be complicated. Coaches and athletic programs operate in their own self-interest, so it is unlikely that individual coaches or Athletic Directors will self-regulate their recruiting practices without real leadership from college presidents and the NCAA. The pressure coaches exert on young students to make life-changing decisions in haste erodes their ability to make the right choice, and is therefore in direct conflict with the purpose and process of higher education. The NCAA needs to acknowledge the elephant in the room and engage in meaningful dialogue with its member institutions to find a workable solution to this alarming trend”.

http://www.gocrimson.com/General/Core_Values/20151007

 

[WWolff]

Well it appears it will not be. problem anymore except for the secret handshakes and wink wink.


NFCA DI Coaches:

Thank you for your impressive response rate on the NCAA proposals and early recruiting survey. A record number 95% responded in just 5 days, amazing!

Here is a summary of the results:

• 281 responses (out of 297 – a 95% participation rate).
• 84% prefer lacrosse model over new SAEC model.
• 80% are in favor of moving forward with Sept. 1 of junior year.

Given these results, combined with the momentum in the DI Caucus discussion at the Convention, we are moving forward asking for adoption of September 1 of junior year as the start date for ALL recruiting contact.

You can read the DI Caucus Minutes Here

We are reaching out to NCAA DI Council members, the Student Athlete Experience Committee ("SAEC") and NCAA staff for support. The NCAA Council and Committees meet in mid-January. Our objective is to make sure they know where softball stands when they walk into those meetings.

For Early Recruiting talking points, click HERE

*If you know anyone on the Council or SAEC, please let Joanna Lane know. Our outreach efforts will certainly include those with personal or professional connections with those who will be voting.

The NFCA is in the process of creating an early recruiting page on our website to keep you informed and to serve as a resource for the softball community.

If you have any questions or suggestions, please feel free to share them with Joanna Lane, Natalie Poole or Karen Weekly.

Thank you for rallying around this important issue. We will keep you posted.

Sincerely,
The NFCA Team