NCAA Amateur disqualification rules

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I recall a couple of years ago a discussion in regards to a player making themselves ineligible for a NCAA scholarship because their team offset their team fee's for them. The post further went on with someone supplying a link to the rules around this.

We are having a discussion about teams offering a portion/percentage of a sponsorship to be put towards the player who secured the sponsorship team fee's as an incentive.

As far as I understand this would make the player ineligible. Can anyone comment/direct to the rule?
Personally I find it unethical.

Thanks.

 

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Are you referring to a team that is 501c?

 

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What's. A 501c?

 

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College-bound student-athletes may participate in amateur sports clubs as long as they do not receive expenses in excess of travel, lodging or equipment for practice or competition. A prospect may accept prize money based on performance in an open competition as long as the prize is awarded by the sponsor of the event and the amount of the prize does not exceed the student-athlete’s expenses to compete in the event. College or university representatives may not help with fundraising efforts for a student-athlete’s amateur club team.
Last Updated: Jul 24, 2012

 

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Can't see it being unethical if it's just covering expenses or a portion of. I would think it becomes unethical if you profit. We need more of it in softball so families that can't afford for their DD's to play get the opportunity. Get more girls playing.

firststrike, love the avitar.

 

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501c is a nonprofit entity which some organizations are. There are also organizations that are for profit.

 

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That discussion was about receiving money instead of trophies or shirts as a prize from a tournament, not a team giving a player a break on their fees. I don't see helping a player out on her fees as unethical at all. Like Musty said, I think it is a great idea and would give many girls who can't afford to play the opportunity that they all deserve. There are many great players who can't afford travel ball that would love to play and I think that is very unfortunate, especially for those who are looking to play in college. I don't know how anyone would consider that unethical.

 

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501c is a nonprofit entity which some organizations are. There are also organizations that are for profit.

Yes, the team and organization is a registered non profit.

 

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Klump Mustofastpitch. if a business offers sponsorship to a team, then the fee's should be used for the team. If a business wishes to sponsor a player, then it is a individual sponsorship. My question is, if an individual benefits off of the sponsorship that they have obtained, is there any penalties?

I don't believe that an individual will gain anymore than what their team fee's are.

Here's another question then. If a family who is good at team fundraising but has no means of getting a sponsorship not entitled to the same benefits?. How would you even divvy up that? Last time I looked it takes a team to play, not an individual.

 

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I was involved in a conversation about this at gapps this past summer. This is what I took out of it. If a player recieves money to play a sport from a sponsor regardless of what it is used for that individual by the ncaa standards is being paid to play. You loose your amateur statis and no longer eligible to play in college period. This is a very gray area but what I was told this has happened alot over the last few years. when you go into the ncaa eligibility center when you apply for your clearing house number all of this is there to be answered.

 

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Basically the student cannot profit.

 

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A business makes a profit and 99% of travel teams are not making a profit on the players. The fees are collected to use for the players to play the game. All fundraisers we do are evenly split between the players who participated in the fundraiser.

Last time I looked, it takes atleast 9 individuals to make a team.

 

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If the fundraising is done as a team then it get divided up. Think team car wash. All the girls help and benefit. But if it is fundraising done by families them it should go to that family. Selling Christmas Candles for example. You don't want one family selling 1,000 candles and another family not selling a single one getting the same benefit. Kroger rewards has been used for years. Some families have had their teams fees paid from this fundraiser. Some families don't fundraise at all, just prefer to write a check.

Getting sponsorships and fundraising are the same thing. It's going out and begging for money. Whoever puts in the work should receive the benefit unless you are a socialist team. ha

 

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Whoever puts in the work should receive the benefit unless you are a socialist team. ha

LOL... funny!
Also great comments from everyone. I guess what I am trying to say is that there are two camps. Who is right and who is wrong or both. My point was/is, I wanted to make sure that someone doesn't make an uninformed decision that could ultimately hurt a players chance of advancing into the next level of their amateur ball career. Sometimes good intentions aren't always the right path to take.

IMHO, Socialist no, but I'm all about team and would hope that all families and players have the same mind set. Work hard like they do on the field off the field to help their fellow team mates and families. When one struggles, there's always someone there to help pick them back up.

I don't know about your organizations but here we have programs that will help assist families who have financial difficulties so no one is left out and can't play.

 

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the way i read it, a player got a sponsor for the whole team and then the team waived her players fee? did i get it right?

 

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the way i read it, a player got a sponsor for the whole team and then the team waived her players fee? did i get it right?

It's more of a suggestion that was brought up but that would be the jest of it.

 

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If a player receives money to pay her team fees from a company-- or if an entire team receives money from a company to cover team fees, I see no difference. As long as a player does not receive money above what is required to play I would consider that maintaining amateur status.