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is that by Lady Gaga ? LOL
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I think it's Poison, yeah? Some 80's hair band anyway.
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It's by Great White - it's actually the name of the album too. It's on my ipod.
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It's by Great White - it's actually the name of the album too. It's on my ipod.
You should be embarrassed!! Lol
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We had a girl quit this season. We found out after she left that she was at the heart of the some of the problems. She even tried to stir the pot after she left. It was much better for the team to have her gone and it would be wrong to allow her to come back. That said, we do allow our daughter to have input, but it is ultimately our decision. We have a lot invested also and sometimes the kids cannot see the big picture. They are unable to have the view that the adults have.
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This thread definitely hit a nerve with me. DD's 14U team was recently in Chattanooga for the NSA A World Series. The team is playing well and thru to the final 8 of the winner's bracket with about a 4 hour wait until our next game. The coaches get a call from the mother of our lead-off hitter (IF/OF'er,who'd played every inning) to let us know that they are heading home because her daughter wasn't getting enough infield playing time. She also inadvertently let's it slip that another girl (3b/OF) and her mom were also leaving because that girl (0-13,with 9 strikeouts) didn't start the previous game.
I've seen a lot of things that have made me shake my head since my daughter's started playing travel ball but that was beyond belief! We finished the tourney with the 8 healthy and 1 injured girl that we had left and will be left to wonder what may have happened had those two stayed and put the team ahead of themselves.
No way we'd ever consider allowing them back on the team---I'd suggest you let your quitter look for another place to play also.
I've seen a lot of things that have made me shake my head since my daughter's started playing travel ball but that was beyond belief! We finished the tourney with the 8 healthy and 1 injured girl that we had left and will be left to wonder what may have happened had those two stayed and put the team ahead of themselves.
No way we'd ever consider allowing them back on the team---I'd suggest you let your quitter look for another place to play also.
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scooby26:
That's a tough story, but unfortunately not all that unusual. You would think that any decision to quit could be given effect when the team was not in the middle of a tournament but I've seen parents extract their pound of flesh in this manner more than once.
That's a tough story, but unfortunately not all that unusual. You would think that any decision to quit could be given effect when the team was not in the middle of a tournament but I've seen parents extract their pound of flesh in this manner more than once.
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You said that if you try out and make the team, them commit to the team for the season. OK. What about coaches that take girls at tryouts and then during or after winter training go out and find more girls and play them and bench the ones that trained all winter? If they are not worthy, then refund their money and send them home. From a parents standpoint, I would much rather see my DD sent home and someone say "sorry, it just didn't work out" than to just drag them through the rest of the summer sitting on the bench while girls that didn't train all winter show up and play the entire game.
Don't the players deserve the same commitment from the team, organization, and coaches as the girls are asked to give to them?
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Just my 2 cents but I say "NO" do not take her back. This is not your fault that the child (parents) quit. Let the parents deal with letting their dd down.
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Absolutely the girls deserve the same committment. That is why you only carry 11 girls. So everyone gets playing time. I would be very disappointed if my dd worked out all winter then coach brings in a ringer and takes dd's playing time. It would definately have me thinking different direction next year.
Quiting is still a bad thing to teach. Once it gets into their head, everytime the going gets tuff, they may consider quiting instead of forging ahead.
Quiting is still a bad thing to teach. Once it gets into their head, everytime the going gets tuff, they may consider quiting instead of forging ahead.
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Remember who is making the decision here for the girl to quit......the parent. I'm willing to bet if you ask the player if she wanted to quit she would say NO. Take the parents out of the equation and this is a wonderful game. The kids are happy with whatever happens and only get upset over a situation when a parent puts a bad spin on it. As a parent we can put a POSITIVE spin on almost anything that happens in the game of travel softball. If your daughter is upset she is not playing enough or not playing the position she thinks she should, tell her it's OK. Work harder......just because you are not where you think you should be doesn't mean you can't get there.
As for this situation, talk to the parents and really be a judge of what is best for the girl and the team. Every situatiuon is different.....If you feel a girl quits she is done, then go with it. Only advice i can give is be consistent with the decisions you make.
As for this situation, talk to the parents and really be a judge of what is best for the girl and the team. Every situatiuon is different.....If you feel a girl quits she is done, then go with it. Only advice i can give is be consistent with the decisions you make.
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From KY25 above: If your daughter is upset she is not playing enough or not playing the position she thinks she should, tell her it's OK. Work harder......just because you are not where you think you should be doesn't mean you can't get there.
That would make a wonderful life lesson that would suite her well in adulthood!
That would make a wonderful life lesson that would suite her well in adulthood!
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Am I the only one wondering after reading some of these threads why names aren't named? As a parent, I would love to know if the "new girl" this year was available because she was on her 37th team at 12 years old. As an old DI once told me.."You go to war with what you brought..." and if we brought a quitter to a major tournament that probably cost each parent a couple of thousand in fees, travel expenses, gas and time by the time we got there, I would have some VERY serious questions about what the coach and the organization knew, and when they knew it! Anybody here ever hear of a guy called Terrell Owens? You can gaurantee he can only be a good teammate for so so long, and then he will KILL your team.
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Excellent post!
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Thats hard on the team when the girl quit. The girls who stayed will always know the one who didnt. tough decision.
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sad but true LOVE is BLIND... Yes many Coaches can coach thier own Kids and be Honest , but it is a Hard thing to do. Now for Parents who are NOT Coaching , it is FEW and Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar between. They just cant see the shortcomings. LOVE is indeed Blind. (Deaf and Dumb at times as well)
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You are so right, my DD's team had one leave mid season over playing time and we saw her later on at another tournament and the tension was thick. I told my DD that it was her decision and that she needs to respect that (even though she didn't like it).
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well try to look at it through the parents eyes. sure it was tackless to pull her out but if the coach TOLD her she would be playing at that spot then it's also partially the coaches fault. sorry if this upsets anyone but this kinda happened to me as well. wanted more infeild exposure and i got to play half an inning at 2nd. the rest of the season was spent in the outfeild. our 2nd baseman played 2nd for the rest of the year and never sat. i was just as good as her and batted well above her as well but our coach never swiched us.
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I happen to be deaf, but not dumb. I know it is an archaic expression, but to be "dumb" is not to be able to communicate. Hence the demise of the expression. I also do not have a DD on the team (the youngest is 28).
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All right heres one: DD(pitcher) subs for a number of games for a team. Original pitcher for team is seriously struggling and the pitching coach for the team is her "daddy" and refuses to pull her. DD sits the bench two games in a row while orginal team pitcher struggles. At beginning of third game they start original pitcher. DW had seen enough goes to assistant and says "obviously you dont need her so we are going home". This was before game started and she was removed from the lineup. Was DW right or wrong your opinions?