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Same goes for coaching. You are not measured by how well you win but by how well you lose... Actually - that goes for life in general. So I'm always striving for weekends when I'm not being measured 
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sammy, I'll get it right this time....little statbabygirl wants to start diving down the stairs with her stiff-legged, just walking self...she's gonna be a bruiser! nothing to worry about little statman, he's dirty coming out of the shower. he dives naked running through the house! wild man, indeed!
i'm glad to see such positive comments from this thread. This is what the OFC is all about
i'm glad to see such positive comments from this thread. This is what the OFC is all about
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We were told the same things by a very straightfoward coach. She looked at:
* playing with spirit, hustle and focus - in the game, in the dugout, and traveling in between - "playing with heart," supporting teammates. This is all after assessing skill.
* what happens after a player makes an error or strikes out - how well does she recover?
* how does a player handle criticism (especially harsh criticism) from a coach?
* is she not afraid to get dirty, while knowing when to do it?
* are the parents noticeable in a bad way?
Now, if my daughter had just wanted to go to that college, everything would be great
* playing with spirit, hustle and focus - in the game, in the dugout, and traveling in between - "playing with heart," supporting teammates. This is all after assessing skill.
* what happens after a player makes an error or strikes out - how well does she recover?
* how does a player handle criticism (especially harsh criticism) from a coach?
* is she not afraid to get dirty, while knowing when to do it?
* are the parents noticeable in a bad way?
Now, if my daughter had just wanted to go to that college, everything would be great
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DD talking to a D3 coach from Pittsburgh area last night....She had phone on speaker, so I can hear what was being said (Yes, I know...Nibby, but it was DD's idea, She still needs me! :yahoo
DD-"Hi Coach______, this is ______ _______ and I am returning your call."
Coach- "You can call me by my first name _____"
DD- " I always call my coaches 'Coach _______, never by their first name"
Coach- "Well, it sounds like you were raised very well!
Dad- A little tear in eye because she has listened!
DD-"went to you teams website and read about your team"
Coach- "Well you did your homework, I like that in a student & a player"
DD went to schools web site and talked to coach about returning players and record. Found out it is only the second year as a varsity sport at the school. DD said that didn't bother her and she would like to help them become a winning program....After a 20 minute conversation, DD is going to visit school even though she has never heard of school....
DD didn't do very well this weekend at the plate (2-20), but 3 emails from coaches at BOTB showcase liked her "athleticism and her mechanics" So, if your dd feels that all is lost by not having their "Best Weekend" in front of coaches, tell them just continue to hustle and have fun!
DD-"Hi Coach______, this is ______ _______ and I am returning your call."
Coach- "You can call me by my first name _____"
DD- " I always call my coaches 'Coach _______, never by their first name"
Coach- "Well, it sounds like you were raised very well!
Dad- A little tear in eye because she has listened!
DD-"went to you teams website and read about your team"
Coach- "Well you did your homework, I like that in a student & a player"
DD went to schools web site and talked to coach about returning players and record. Found out it is only the second year as a varsity sport at the school. DD said that didn't bother her and she would like to help them become a winning program....After a 20 minute conversation, DD is going to visit school even though she has never heard of school....
DD didn't do very well this weekend at the plate (2-20), but 3 emails from coaches at BOTB showcase liked her "athleticism and her mechanics" So, if your dd feels that all is lost by not having their "Best Weekend" in front of coaches, tell them just continue to hustle and have fun!
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great great informative thread --love that even though a kid did'nt have a great weekend at the plate it was the proper TECHNIQUE that got her noticed. BRAVO ! I'm so big into the proper way of doing things. Even if you fail (after all , failing 6 times in 10 to reach 1st means you are hitting 400 !) do things correctly ! MD
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My 12 soon to be 13 year old is going to get a copy too and posting it in her batbag isn't a bad idea either.
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Dan:
You don't get a "hit" if you reach first by: walk, error, hit-by-pitch, dropped third strike or fielder's choice. So, you're not necessarily hitting .400 if you fail to reach first safely in six of ten trips to the plate. You could actually be hitting .000. I just don't want you padding the Stingrays' stats.
You don't get a "hit" if you reach first by: walk, error, hit-by-pitch, dropped third strike or fielder's choice. So, you're not necessarily hitting .400 if you fail to reach first safely in six of ten trips to the plate. You could actually be hitting .000. I just don't want you padding the Stingrays' stats.
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in mandan's guide to scoring, a hit-by-pitch is scored as a "hit" because of the word "hit" in the term hit-by-pitch. Furthermore, a fielder's choice is recorded as a hit as well, considering it was a "choice" of the fielder to watch the hit go by or to make a play on it. Third, a walk is considered a hit as well since the hit was into the outfield, batter practically "walked" to first. walks = singles. Next, dropped third strikes are also considered, you guessed it, "hits" since the batter swung just as hard to get a "hit" and therefore, because of karma can now reach first. Last but not least, an error is also considered an "extra-base hit" because without the fielders' stinking glove in the way, that hit was sure to be a double!
stingray stats are doing just fine, just ask mandan
stingray stats are doing just fine, just ask mandan
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This one?s for you Ray. I stand by my post. A coach with good character will not and I repeat will not discuss another athlete with another parent. They will discuss an athlete with a travel or school coach and other college coaches. Please notice that I said a good coach with good character. You may want to take that into consideration if your DD is interested in their program, that is if the character of the coach your DD may be playing for, the next four years matters at all.
"Yes, we do watch the prospective athletes before and after games and how they interact with their team mates, coaches, umps and parents. We do not ask one parent about another parent for some obvious reasons."
Here are two examples:
While watching an athlete play at ASA Nationals (this was after watching her play in several other tournaments), she made an error. After the game her parent saw fit to curse his daughter out very loudly in front of several college coaches. The athlete was humiliated and in tears. This parent was also screaming at umps during several games. Knowing that this parent most likely would not be in attendance at the college games because of distance, she was offered a spot. She still would have been offered a spot because of her athletic skill and ability by several coaches.
Example two: This athlete was being scouted after several emails and phone calls. We could not call her but she could call us per NCAA rules. Her team happened to be staying in the same hotel and it just so happened that this athlete?s room was next to ours. They kept us up all night with the noise and partying. We were not quite sure if we wanted to put up with that type of behavior even though this was an athlete we were seriously considering. After finding out alcohol was involved, our decision was made for us.
As posted, grades and test Scores (ACT, SAT) are of great consideration. We do not want a student athlete who will be ineligible to play because her grades drop in college.
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did we get something mixed up? I thought the original post was talking about an atheletes and their parent, not someone else's parent. I'd imagine character coaches wouldn't speak about another kid to a different parent, a coach maybe, but not to another parent (that's what parents do all summer anyway!)....i'm not in a tizzy, but I still think the post refered to coaches who dont want headcases, not coaches who talk about headcases with other coaches/players/parents...we're cool Orion, even though you're named after a constellation!
but...were your examples proving my point or yours? I'm confuzzled?
and my DD is good on her coaches having good character, it's not me so it's all good.
but...were your examples proving my point or yours? I'm confuzzled?
and my DD is good on her coaches having good character, it's not me so it's all good.
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It's all good
Yes my screen name is a constellation. Orion is a HUNTER. I hunt as in Scout.
In the original post by hermom, she stated she was told a player was not recruited because of the athlete's mom. I'm saying a quality college coach would not have said that to another athlete's parent.
As for my examples, they really do not prove any point as each college coach looks at several things. Some will take into consideration a parent's attitude and actions, but when it comes down to it, it has been my experience that it does not rate very high in the equation. We recruit the athlete not their family.
An experienced college coach has pretty much seen it all and can very quickly nip any problem parents behavior in the bud.
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Yes my screen name is a constellation. Orion is a HUNTER. I hunt as in Scout.
In the original post by hermom, she stated she was told a player was not recruited because of the athlete's mom. I'm saying a quality college coach would not have said that to another athlete's parent.
As for my examples, they really do not prove any point as each college coach looks at several things. Some will take into consideration a parent's attitude and actions, but when it comes down to it, it has been my experience that it does not rate very high in the equation. We recruit the athlete not their family.
An experienced college coach has pretty much seen it all and can very quickly nip any problem parents behavior in the bud.
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Sammy:
While I respect your opinion, I will say this much about warmups. Warmups are warmups. You stretch, you run a little, you field a few grounders, you take a few swings and you get ready to play. Warmups do not count. Nobody ever got a trophy for what they did in warmups. Nobody ever got a college scholarship for what they did in warmups. I believe a lot of summer teams overdo the warmups, especially between games-- especially after the team has already played TWO games. It's a hundred degrees and the kids have already played two games and some coaches have them back out in the heat doing full warmups an hour before the third game-- when they should be under a tent drinking water and eating apples or bananas or something and taking it easy. D-U-M-B dumb.
As for diving in warmups, here's my take. I tell my girls NOT to do it. I also tell them not to horse around, not to eat a lot of garbage food and not to drink soda pop. To me, it's all the same. Anything you do that can take away from your performance DURING THE GAME (which is all that matters) is prohibited. Does that mean don't hustle when we take infield? NO. It just means be sensible. Save your best for when it counts. If one of my girls dives for a ball in warmups and gets hurt, I'm not going to tell her "good hustle." I'm going to be p-o'd because she just hurt our team's chances of winning a tournament before it even started.
While I respect your opinion, I will say this much about warmups. Warmups are warmups. You stretch, you run a little, you field a few grounders, you take a few swings and you get ready to play. Warmups do not count. Nobody ever got a trophy for what they did in warmups. Nobody ever got a college scholarship for what they did in warmups. I believe a lot of summer teams overdo the warmups, especially between games-- especially after the team has already played TWO games. It's a hundred degrees and the kids have already played two games and some coaches have them back out in the heat doing full warmups an hour before the third game-- when they should be under a tent drinking water and eating apples or bananas or something and taking it easy. D-U-M-B dumb.
As for diving in warmups, here's my take. I tell my girls NOT to do it. I also tell them not to horse around, not to eat a lot of garbage food and not to drink soda pop. To me, it's all the same. Anything you do that can take away from your performance DURING THE GAME (which is all that matters) is prohibited. Does that mean don't hustle when we take infield? NO. It just means be sensible. Save your best for when it counts. If one of my girls dives for a ball in warmups and gets hurt, I'm not going to tell her "good hustle." I'm going to be p-o'd because she just hurt our team's chances of winning a tournament before it even started.
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thanks for clarifying that, Hunt, er, Orion. I'm even double-plus good now
(somehow I feel spanked but not in a naughty way)
thank you sir, can I have another!
(somehow I feel spanked but not in a naughty way)
thank you sir, can I have another!
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Orion i agree that they should not have said it.
it was just briefly mentioned and shouldn't have been
but has stuck in my head on how i need to conduct myself
at my kids sporting events. I've been known to yell
at an ump once or twice. Now trying to sit and enjoy
the games. Was not a coach that dd was interested in.
it was just briefly mentioned and shouldn't have been
but has stuck in my head on how i need to conduct myself
at my kids sporting events. I've been known to yell
at an ump once or twice. Now trying to sit and enjoy
the games. Was not a coach that dd was interested in.
