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We avoid VSP at all costs if possible.
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Hello Folks- I am the Managing Partner of Victory Park Ohio and am also still a travel baseball coach and played in the softball circuit in the 80's/90's. I have read the comments related to the Pumpkin Smash and the facility itself and would like to offer the following comments/answers to the previous posts:
1) The current ownership DID NOT start this project in 2007 nor are we the original owners. We took over the park in 2011 after it went through bankruptcy from the previous owner. Our partnership is comprised of 4 companies that were owed over $1.25 million from the original phase of the park project. In the 18+ months that we have owned this facility, we have completely replaced all the infields (Diamond #8 is fabulous), fixed all the fencing and added some screens, installed all the permanent electrical power (no more generators) put another $250k into finishing the restaurant (inclusive of roof, cement floor and moderate landscape), replanted many trees and most of the grass along the pathways, added the executive resttrooms back by diamonds 5-7 (which are far better than most "permanent" restrooms at other sites), brought in the office trailer, have actual cooking concession trailers through a partnership with Aces and Lone Tree, offer golf cart service to elderly and disabled fans, and finally finished the irrigation system mid-August (first bill was $5,000 btw). All told we are about $4 million into this project plus the normal operating expenses. We continue to upgrade the permises on a monthly/quarterly basis and Im sorry to say for those who claim there were no improvements done this year are sorely mistaken or not paying attention.
2) We had by far the fewest rainouts in Northern Ohio this year. Not only are our fields re-lasered and re-graded 2x per year, we spread addtional product on a regular basis to help reduce the swells, holes, etc from rain, excessive use and other factors. Our grounds crew swells to as many as 12 guys at a time depending on the field needs and opportunity to get game(s) completed. If you cannot walk on a field, then you cannot bring equipment on them. We had guys scehduled to work on Sunday regardless so we were not saving anything cost wise by not playing but we LOST revenue to pay for that staff by not playing. So to be accused of being cheap is most certainly inaccurate on this account.
3) Gate fees $5 for the weekend- Normally they are $3 per DAY. The gate fees are adjusted based on negotiations with the tournament director accounting for number of fields rented and price, estimated number of attendees, timing or tournament and whether or not the park can sell any concessions. The bulk of the gate fees are put right back into the premises themselves, typically into the fields. Please remember: We are not a public facility, therefore we do not get tax reveneues or ANY kind of financial assistance from anyone or anything other than field rentals and gate fees. Even a simple mathematician can figure out we would need to be extremely busy just to pay the operating costs.
For those who have a bad taste from the previous owners, I cannot change that. However, as with anything, if you give it some time you will see the positive changes that we are excited about. We cannot wave a magic wand and turn this facility into Disneyland. Please be patient. Good things are continuing to happen inclusive of other non-sports related events. I would welcome any comments or questions that I can clarify for you. Thanks
1) The current ownership DID NOT start this project in 2007 nor are we the original owners. We took over the park in 2011 after it went through bankruptcy from the previous owner. Our partnership is comprised of 4 companies that were owed over $1.25 million from the original phase of the park project. In the 18+ months that we have owned this facility, we have completely replaced all the infields (Diamond #8 is fabulous), fixed all the fencing and added some screens, installed all the permanent electrical power (no more generators) put another $250k into finishing the restaurant (inclusive of roof, cement floor and moderate landscape), replanted many trees and most of the grass along the pathways, added the executive resttrooms back by diamonds 5-7 (which are far better than most "permanent" restrooms at other sites), brought in the office trailer, have actual cooking concession trailers through a partnership with Aces and Lone Tree, offer golf cart service to elderly and disabled fans, and finally finished the irrigation system mid-August (first bill was $5,000 btw). All told we are about $4 million into this project plus the normal operating expenses. We continue to upgrade the permises on a monthly/quarterly basis and Im sorry to say for those who claim there were no improvements done this year are sorely mistaken or not paying attention.
2) We had by far the fewest rainouts in Northern Ohio this year. Not only are our fields re-lasered and re-graded 2x per year, we spread addtional product on a regular basis to help reduce the swells, holes, etc from rain, excessive use and other factors. Our grounds crew swells to as many as 12 guys at a time depending on the field needs and opportunity to get game(s) completed. If you cannot walk on a field, then you cannot bring equipment on them. We had guys scehduled to work on Sunday regardless so we were not saving anything cost wise by not playing but we LOST revenue to pay for that staff by not playing. So to be accused of being cheap is most certainly inaccurate on this account.
3) Gate fees $5 for the weekend- Normally they are $3 per DAY. The gate fees are adjusted based on negotiations with the tournament director accounting for number of fields rented and price, estimated number of attendees, timing or tournament and whether or not the park can sell any concessions. The bulk of the gate fees are put right back into the premises themselves, typically into the fields. Please remember: We are not a public facility, therefore we do not get tax reveneues or ANY kind of financial assistance from anyone or anything other than field rentals and gate fees. Even a simple mathematician can figure out we would need to be extremely busy just to pay the operating costs.
For those who have a bad taste from the previous owners, I cannot change that. However, as with anything, if you give it some time you will see the positive changes that we are excited about. We cannot wave a magic wand and turn this facility into Disneyland. Please be patient. Good things are continuing to happen inclusive of other non-sports related events. I would welcome any comments or questions that I can clarify for you. Thanks
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Are the pool play results for any or all of the classes posted anywhere? You hear lots of talk from people and I would be interested in seeing some scores if they are available anywhere.
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Explosive Crandall 16u 3-0.
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Against who? What were the scores?
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Joeboo ... thanks for the update. I had heard about the bankruptcy and how your group took things over. It is good to know that you are continuing to put $ into the place and have plans to make it into a first class facility. The place is so huge ... I am sure that is a very significant financial commitment. I guess the tough part is that you have to get use out of it now in it's current status to help finance the future expenditures. It sounds like you are focusing on the right things, and I wish you much success down the road ... again, I do think the place has great potential.
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Okay so it is safe to assume we have established a few things
1. There were some great pumpkins
2. It rained and this disappointed to varying degrees everyone who participated
3. The fields were not playable on Sunday and the complex tried their best
4. The complex continues to pour money into the operation to make it a good venue
5. Everyone seems to have gone undefeated :lmao: and NO ONE WILL POST ANY SCORES;&;&
1. There were some great pumpkins
2. It rained and this disappointed to varying degrees everyone who participated
3. The fields were not playable on Sunday and the complex tried their best
4. The complex continues to pour money into the operation to make it a good venue
5. Everyone seems to have gone undefeated :lmao: and NO ONE WILL POST ANY SCORES;&;&
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Yikes, we lost one of our pool games ... I guess we were the only ones! 
Seriously though, I have never understood why people have such a thirst to find out scores of pool games, especially if they didn't participate in or attend the tourney.
Seriously though, I have never understood why people have such a thirst to find out scores of pool games, especially if they didn't participate in or attend the tourney.
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Probably out of respect for the teams that didn't do well,I know one team beat team michigan ,guess that won't hurt any bodys feelings in OHIO that is. Go Bucks beat Michigan
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My point exactly. DD's team mercy ruled another well regarded team, but we knew that they most likely had a bunch of subs, etc., so neither DD's team or the opposing team made a fuss about it.
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