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problem is that most of the coaches do not know the rules as proven in this case. If they did then they could have asked for time and protested the call based on a rules interpitation and won- very simple if they would just pick up the rule book and read it once in their lives.

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Sadly, the OHSAA does not permit official protests in their games. :(

What this means is that if an official misapplies a playing rule, the coach has no recourse to formally have the ruling overturned. He's pretty much stuck with it. He can ask, plead, beg, reason, complain, argue...then hope that the officials realize their error and correct it, but he cannot file an official protest.

I can understand why this is and also wish it wasn't that way. If protests are allowed, you have to have someone, or a committee, in place to review the protests. And, if the protest is upheld, you have to reschedule the game and replay it from the point of protest. That also means scheduling and paying umpires for the game, transportation costs for the schools...assuming that the schools even have any open dates left on their calander.

The OHSAA has apparently decided that, with the thousands of games played throughout the state, implementing the official protest procedure would be an unworkable nightmare.

The downside is that an official might contine to make the same mistakes over and over again. If a protest is filed somebody is going to learn something. Either the coach will learn that he has the rule wrong or the official will learn that he does. I see this as the "win-win" aspect of protests- a bad call that hurts a team can actually be reviewed and corrected plus the official learns the proper rule.
 
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If the coach knows the rule book as well as he or she should, I just don't see where calling time out and approaching the umpire with the rule book calmly and with reason will hurt anything. I am an official in another sport and I also coach that sport. On one occasion I was involved in a contest where an official misapplied the rule. I didn't scream and yell and tell him he was paid to know 100% of the rules with absolute certainty and he was messing with my kid and was going to scar her for life. I did what the rules allow. I called time out. I requested to speak with the official. I discussed his ruling with him. He reversed his original ruling and made the correct one. It wasn't a big deal. I think he even gave me my timeout back. Not sure if he should have done that or not but I took it anyway.
 
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If the coach knows the rule book as well as he or she should, I just don't see where calling time out and approaching the umpire with the rule book calmly and with reason will hurt anything. I am an official in another sport and I also coach that sport. On one occasion I was involved in a contest where an official misapplied the rule. I didn't scream and yell and tell him he was paid to know 100% of the rules with absolute certainty and he was messing with my kid and was going to scar her for life. I did what the rules allow. I called time out. I requested to speak with the official. I discussed his ruling with him. He reversed his original ruling and made the correct one. It wasn't a big deal. I think he even gave me my timeout back. Not sure if he should have done that or not but I took it anyway.
***wow*** i would love to see some of your umpires down south here!!! For the most part after a questionable call when a coach calls time calmly and then proceeds to break out the ole rule book these umpires bristle up and turn 3 shades of red and get 5 kinds of pi***d off!!! Basically the common reaction for ignorance(not stupid) just not knowing how decipher the rules....
Soryy for kinda going off topic
 
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Any coach should be able to call time and discuss any call with an official. And, any official should be open to discussing any call when the coach approaches him in this manner.

I feel this is especially important when no protests are permitted. Eliminating protests takes away a right afforded to teams under the standard rules and the only means a coach has for getting a call corrected if the official is wrong and refuses to budge.

Guys turning red and getting mad if asked about a call says more about the disposition and personality of the person getting mad than it does about any sort of protocol for questioning an official.
 
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Dennis
Your daughter in the avatar has some guns!!


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Dennis
Your daughter in the avatar has some guns!!

Straightleg

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They changed up her workout program last year once she decided she no longer wanted to pitch and just focus on 3rd and catching the results have remarkable.

Shes up to 20lb db, Bench Rep 135lb (maxed 150 last month), leg press maxed at 410 (last month) rep 300lb..

They have a Great core strength program including diet, and agility training with one on one instruction...
 
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