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If you read the book Pete had way more issues than just his hair !!!!! LOL
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Well that's the spirit that built America!
If you were a black male and the rule was whites only would you feel the same way? If you had to have blond hair and blue eyes? Or it doesn't matter what the rule or that your money is paying for the program (tax $) you would just walk away? Curious.
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My thought is because it is being supported with tax dollars it should not infringe on personal liberties. Length of hair does not effect safety or ability and so the coaches personal preference should not be forced on the kids. A kid shouldn't have to wear his hair a certain way just to play on his public school team. If the coach said everyone must dye their hair orange or be kicked of the team, would that be okay? Or anyone not a blonde must bleach their hair? If not, What's the difference? That's what I don't get.
Now if it was a private club team then have at it. Tax funded team, no dice because it is paid for by everyone's money. Of course my preference is that no tax dollars go to pay any sports.
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apples and oranges, in your example you are excluding people from trying out, this kid is being asked to maintain the accepted 'dress code'...do you think schools should not be allowed to enforce dress codes?
almost all of my tax dollars go to programs that neither me or anyone in my family would ever become a part....and I am fine with that
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So are you saying there should be no 'standards' set for those who play on public school teams? What about the coaches? I don't think anyone really wants to go down THAT path just because this kid wants to be different from all his other 'teammates'...
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I guess the coach would have had to cut poor Pete...
Not sure how it would have gone over if Pete had been born a few years later and was recruited to Indiana in the Bobby Knight years. My guess is if Pete wanted to play there, and Bobby said so, he would have cut his hair.
Going to LSU and playing for his Dad, he could wear his hair however his Dad let him.
Question is, how long was it back in his HS days and would he have just cut it if it was a team rule, or had Daddy sue?
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Where did I say no dress code? I'm only talking about the length of his hair. If they need to wear shirt and ties on game day, don't see a problem.
Don't get how ALL YOUR tax dollars go to programs you don't use. Sorry, not sure what you mean.
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Never said there should be "no standards". I'm saying the kid shouldn't be forced to wear his hair short because the coach wants him to. There is no reason other than it's the coaches personal preference as how kids should wear their hair.
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OK.. I need to put in my 2 cents... "My thought is because it is being supported with tax dollars it should not infringe on personal liberties." I have never read anything that even implies that its your "personal liberties" to have long hair, this is a double edge sword, tax dollars, some would say the same thing about saying the pledge every morning. But we wouldn't be here complaining about that.
The simple fact is... when most of us were growing up, if we acted out, we got our butts paddled with that wooden paddle with drilled holes through it so help reduce wind resistance. When we got home, we got it again.
However today, that would never happen because someone would have a lawsuit in court so fast, the school board members heads would spin, Yet everyday, I read or hear of yet another assault at school, kids being dis-respectful to the teachers, teachers being assaulted, school Yard shootings. I mean really. Back in the day if we had a beef with someone, we went out to the baseball field had our fight and then tomorrow were buddies again.
Today, the kid waits for you outside by the busses, pulls out a .40 cal and fires off 5 shots. What has happened to the way our kids are taught? Why has it changed? We let it happen. I hear people say.. "Whats wrong with kids today?" There is no ramifications for the actions they choose.
As a result... the rule to be on the team, short hair... get it cut, or leave your jersey in the locker room. Pretty simple. Make a choice, he did, and the coach did too.
The simple fact is... when most of us were growing up, if we acted out, we got our butts paddled with that wooden paddle with drilled holes through it so help reduce wind resistance. When we got home, we got it again.
However today, that would never happen because someone would have a lawsuit in court so fast, the school board members heads would spin, Yet everyday, I read or hear of yet another assault at school, kids being dis-respectful to the teachers, teachers being assaulted, school Yard shootings. I mean really. Back in the day if we had a beef with someone, we went out to the baseball field had our fight and then tomorrow were buddies again.
Today, the kid waits for you outside by the busses, pulls out a .40 cal and fires off 5 shots. What has happened to the way our kids are taught? Why has it changed? We let it happen. I hear people say.. "Whats wrong with kids today?" There is no ramifications for the actions they choose.
As a result... the rule to be on the team, short hair... get it cut, or leave your jersey in the locker room. Pretty simple. Make a choice, he did, and the coach did too.
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It is a standard for playing with the team...plain and simple...I think you are making assumptions about the coach that really should be made about the kid and the family....you don't hear any of the other players taking the school to court because the coach is such an ogre!
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So your issue is just hair? It is ok to have rules about what they wear when they aren't even playing, but no rules about the length of their hair? That doesn't seem to make much sense.
I pay my taxes which go to the schools and support programs I don't even go watch, let alone have my kids participating in....if I don't like how the taxes are spent, I vote out the board members, I don't sue the school system....
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2 kinds of parents
1."Well boy, if ya don't like the rules ,don't play
2. "Are they picken on my baby? If you don't want to do it, then it isn't right. I'll handle this!"
1."Well boy, if ya don't like the rules ,don't play
2. "Are they picken on my baby? If you don't want to do it, then it isn't right. I'll handle this!"
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Found this too...
personal libery
Definition
Freedom to behave as one pleases, circumscribed by the laws and codes of conduct of the society in which one lives.
Since I am not a Rhodes Scholar: I had to look up what Circumscribed ment... it means: . restrict: to limit the power of something or somebody to act independently ( formal ) ( often passive )
So Personal liberties means: the freedom to behave as one pleases, restricted by the laws and codes of conduct of the society in which one lives...
Again: I stand by the comment I made above the rule is no long hair, the player made a choice, and so did the coach.
personal libery
Definition
Freedom to behave as one pleases, circumscribed by the laws and codes of conduct of the society in which one lives.
Since I am not a Rhodes Scholar: I had to look up what Circumscribed ment... it means: . restrict: to limit the power of something or somebody to act independently ( formal ) ( often passive )
So Personal liberties means: the freedom to behave as one pleases, restricted by the laws and codes of conduct of the society in which one lives...
Again: I stand by the comment I made above the rule is no long hair, the player made a choice, and so did the coach.
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It is obivously not a single coaches choice when it is applied to the HS teams as well as the MS teams. I am guessing that it is a district or AD choice. Even if it was just the coaches choice, he is the coach conform or don't play is your choice. What would be the case if the kid didn't want to do conditioning to the level that the coach required?
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I would tell my kid to either cut his hair or don't play. Rules are rules no matter how rediculous or insignificant they may seem.
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Conditioning is a whole different ballgame, that affects play, length of hair doesn't.
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Who has rules on what they wear when not playing? You mean at home at night, on weekends? The haircut would stay on nights and weekends. I don't see a problem with a game day dress code, shirt and ties or jersey in class that kind of thing but a hair style stays 24/7 and into their life away from school.
Answer me this, if the school said all athletes must have blonde hair, all sports, male and females, because they want that look for the school. If you are not a blonde you must dye your hair. All nationalities. Would you say that is right and it should be a do it or don't play?
I will add that this isn't that big a deal to me though it may appear to be, just a slow day.
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I don't like guys with long hair anyways so I like that rule!! I think EVERYONE should enforce it!!!
I think EVERYONE should enforce it!!!
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I don't like guys with long hair anyways so I like that rule!!
How about balding guys?
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