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I don't mind the fundraisers, the more I can offset the costs the better.

Try driving for 4 hours and sitting in a crappy restaurant for 5 hours and not selling ONE $10 raffle ticket. The raffle was ridiculous {which is why tickets did not sell} and it was a required team event. 10 gallons of gas at $3.50 I guess you can understand but I can't.
 
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PC Sting cost were only $350.00 this past year. We have been fortunate to get some sizable donations from local businesses. We do however run a couple fundraisers.....
I like to call them (fun raisers) we like to get the whole organization together for a couple events to raise money. The younger girls love seeing the older girls! It helped with team bonding within all 5 of our teams. Last year we had a spaghetti dinner at a local church. This year were hosting a carwash/tenderloin sale at a local Insurance agency parking lot. PC Sting Fees will remian $350 again this year.
 
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Try driving for 4 hours and sitting in a crappy restaurant for 5 hours and not selling ONE $10 raffle ticket. The raffle was ridiculous {which is why tickets did not sell} and it was a required team event. 10 gallons of gas at $3.50 I guess you can understand but I can't.

I didn't say I liked the stupid, pointless fundraisers, we don't waste our time with worthless ones that do not generate profit. Fundraising is a big reason most people CAN afford travel ball.
 
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Static 97 fees were $850 for 16 tourneys & 105 games (76-29). This included 3 jerseys, 2 pants, 4 pair of sox, helmet, bat bag, Ringor spikes, & a few extra the coaches paid for :). $100 of the $850 was the cost for 3 months of our indoor practice facilty. Our parents did not recieve any refund as we actually went over our budget a little. We offer fundraisers so parents have an option but they are not mandatory except for a small one in the winter. Generally our fundraisers are individual so you get out what you put i. After 5 yrs we know which fundraisers are viable & which ones aren't so we can be wise in our choises of what to offer.

No magic in figuring out teams fees almost to the dollar - it just planning & a little homework. For our org, the fees vary depending of the teams schedule & needs so younger teams are not a funding machine for older teams - each team for their own.
 
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@Kavin:

Except for a very very small amount from each team that funds up organization-wide administrative expenses, Buckeye Heat also applies each team's fee revenue to that team's expenses. Can't imagine doing it any other way.
 
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CGS - agree w/ you whole heartedly :) To me the only fair way. If someone pays $500 (or whatever amt) then they should get $500 of softball - end of story.
 
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I didn't say I liked the stupid, pointless fundraisers, we don't waste our time with worthless ones that do not generate profit. Fundraising is a big reason most people CAN afford travel ball.

"""we don't waste our time with worthless ones""" Maybe you should check around your new neighborhood.
 
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I'm finding that most organizations operate the way our government does. Over promise and then worry about who is going to pay for it later. I've been a select basketball coach. Do the math organizations. How many tourneys are you promising, how much equipment do you need to buy, how many indoor parctice facilities do you need to pay for, etc? Divide it out and there are your fees. Once the season is over and you have extra, pay it back to the players. If you want to add tourneys and the parents are in agreement, tell them they owe X amount of dollars for that tourney. If I had only 7 of my 8 girls that wanted/could play in an optional tourney, they were the only ones that were charged. We kept separate accounts on each girl. They do it that way in select ******. I was able to refund some kids hundreds of dollars based on their fundraising and I refunded one girl $1.35. Give it back to the families. Don't spend my money on spiritwear that they are required to wear to practice. It's not a fashion show. More of my fees our first year went to spiritwear, batbags, windbreakers, and whatever the coaches felt like shopping for with my money than tourney fees. Each player that played for me got an itemized statement at the end of the season with their portion of the cost of everything from practice gyms to scorebooks to ref fees to tourney costs. I have no idea where these people think the money tree is coming from, but let me know, I'd love to get one myself!
 
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"""we don't waste our time with worthless ones""" Maybe you should check around your new neighborhood.

No need to...but thanks for looking out for me. ;) With all your VERY VOCAL disappointments regarding travel ball, maybe you should worry more about what applies to YOU and not what applies to me. :rolleyes:
 
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I was able to refund some kids hundreds of dollars based on their fundraising and I refunded one girl $1.35. Give it back to the families.

The only thing wrong with refunding money from any fundraising, if the org is a 501(c)(3), is it is illegal... thats for both the org and the families that recieved the refund.
 
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"""we don't waste our time with worthless ones""" Maybe you should check around your new neighborhood.

You might want to sign up for remedial geography. Klump's new neighborhood is her old neighborhood.
 
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The only thing wrong with refunding money from any fundraising, if the org is a 501(c)(3), is it is illegal... thats for both the org and the families that recieved the refund.

That is not necessarily true. It all depends on what type of fundraising you do and how you process the funds. The one and only caviat is that you cannot refund more than they paid. This is especially true for HS age players.
 
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OK very curious. Question regarding refunding fundraisers at hs age. Say team fees are 600. Player earns 750 in fundraising to offset hotel expenses. Say 650 from sponsorships the rest from small fundraisers. Is there an issue with giving that back to them. Does it make a difference if they are non-profit or not yet approved non-profit?
 
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No need to...but thanks for looking out for me. ;) With all your VERY VOCAL disappointments regarding travel ball, maybe you should worry more about what applies to YOU and not what applies to me. :rolleyes:

I do think about what applies to me. That's why I post. I do not make claims to be HUMBLE either. I know you wouldn't put up with what we went through the last year. Unless you were dishing it out.
 
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You can't pay back a player more than they put into it to begin with. It would be like you atre paying them. If they paid $600 at the beginning of the season, but the family fundraisers and sponsors for that girl ended at $1201. You could not rufund her the difference from the initial $600 which would be $601. You have then paid that player a $1.00 to be on your team.

I may be wrong, but that is my understanding. It's been awhile since I have assisted an org set up there 501(c)(3). Rules may have changed since then.

With being non-profit, your books have to be very in order. All fundraisers have to be "ear marked" for a particular reason.

3dm is correct you have to becareful how you process those funds and where you put them in your books.
 
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ok, next question. Just in case this comes up for us in the future. lol. Would the org be able to pay the hotel bills out of the fundraising directly. I am very new to all this and don't need anyone getting into trouble. Also if the org is not 501 (c)(3) does that make a difference?
 
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ok, next question. Just in case this comes up for us in the future. lol. Would the org be able to pay the hotel bills out of the fundraising directly. I am very new to all this and don't need anyone getting into trouble. Also if the org is not 501 (c)(3) does that make a difference?


For our team each player has an account based on what they fund raised. They can use that fund for anything that relates to the team and softball whether it is indoor training, spirit wear or hotel bills. They just give the treasurer a paid receipt and the funds are made out to them. As far as paying the hotel directly, this is tough since most hotels do not take checks but if the Org. has a credit card it can be done.
The 501 (c)(3) only helps when it come to the org. being able to get sponsorships from donors wanting an official tax write off.
 
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ok, next question. Just in case this comes up for us in the future. lol. Would the org be able to pay the hotel bills out of the fundraising directly. I am very new to all this and don't need anyone getting into trouble. Also if the org is not 501 (c)(3) does that make a difference?

Yes, the org can pay the hotel bill directly and many hotels are happy to work that way with you. There are other logistical issues that arise with that, but nothing that can't be easily handled.

The 501(c)(3) status does effect how you distribute funds that have been raised through an organization sponsored fundraiser. Team and individuals can fundraise all they want as long as the money doesn't flow through the org account(s). Car washes, football squares, etc.. can all be done by the teams and those funds would fall outside of any guidelines as long as it is handled by a parent that is not a coach or org board member. You also have to be careful on how you advertise the fundraiser, the IRS can be pricks.

Hope this helps.
 
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