The simple reason Cali teams are better then Ohio

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Sorry you are correct.....should change that to realistic natural ability..... thank you lol
 
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Sorry you are correct.....should change that to realistic natural ability..... thank you lol
Exactly...... We have all seen the guy who tells you what a stud his kid is, a sure fire future college prospect. Only to not be able to see what her father sees when you watch her play. It is hard to say at what point you come to realize your kid has what it takes. Normally it is a little easier to be optimistic when both parents were good athletes(or at least one) You know for sure there is potential when people are telling YOU how good your kid is. Actually, a very touchy subject. Parents need to take the kid in the right direction, at the risk that it might be all for not. We see stars at 12 who never pan out, and we see average kids who all of a sudden come into their own. For us it was an attitude of, "lets do what it takes and if that isnt good enough down the road, so be it". We guessed the talent was there. We knew the determination and drive was there. Early on we saw the love of the game was there, so we went for it. Not sure how other parents come to the place where they realize their kid has "it", "it" is hard to describe.
 
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While I understand Bustos point in an earlier post. There is not a 12 year old that can play for any college team. Remember folks, just like some of these coaches, including myself, you have to wade through the bs to get to the actually point. My dd could practice twice as hard as Bustos, I could send to her to the best private coaches, I could fly her around the country. And she would not ever, ever come close to being the hitter that Bustos is. You can blame me for that - genes. Do you not think that there are guys that out work LeBron. LeBron is a freak, and so is Bustos, Finch, Whately,..etc.

Dan, Ralph Weekly and I almost came to physical contact over the freak issue at the NFCA a few years ago. Her eye sight is 20/9 and 20/8 and she worked harder to get out of her environment than most of the gifted athletes like Jennie and Natasha just to name a few.

She has a learning dis ability and is also dyslexic...you have to over come a lot when you have these conditions and I work with a lot of kids who are in these situations and they have and are taking it to the next level. I have seen and know coaches who do not even want to work with these kids because it causes them to be challenged as to what they know and how to teach it. It is incumbent upon all coaches to understand how and what we teach does not work for everyone and had it not been for Crystl's dad and Uncle Jesse and her determination to prove everyone else was wrong about her, she may have been looking out from behind the legal system verses looking in.

The girls and the parents were told they are not working hard enough on their own to take it to the next level...it was the same message at your show case when she asked how many had practiced the week of your show case and only 7 kids raised their hands as to doing it ONCE knowing there would be 25 college coaches watching them.

Dan that is not in the gene pool, that is the girls being lazy and a lack of time management on their part. We have kids in college that are not the greatest athletes however as Crystl said if you can hit a ball they will find a place for you and you will get in the game.

Thanks Howard
 
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That is one of the things about coaching that you dont realy like to do but its part of it , if you plan on having kids go to play ball after HS is to look at the parents and tell them to be realistic about helping their dd,s look for a program. That first instant is a shock to most mom and dads, their dreams of watching their dd,s play in the big 10 or SEC is smashed............ Ive had some get pretty defensive , but it is what it is. The ones accept it will normaly be happier and move on pretty fast to find where they belong and those are the ones you have to concentrate on. The mom or dad that refuses to accept it from you will be disapointed again when the day comes they take their dd to a clinic and shes no where near the coaches radar. In the end all you can do is the best you can.........
 
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Certainly, if she can hit, she will play.....I think many parents/players would be amazed at how hard the top pitchers work at their craft. I cant imagine a pitcher going to a pitching clinic and not have thrown a day or two before.
 
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It still baffles me that you get 40 or 50 kids show up for a hitting camp and you ask the question who has hit this week . In 70% has not picked up a bat in 7 days!
 
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It still baffles me that you get 40 or 50 kids show up for a hitting camp and you ask the question who has hit this week . In 70% has not picked up a bat in 7 days!
Probably a good reason why 3% of the players go on to play in college.
 
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It still baffles me that you get 40 or 50 kids show up for a hitting camp and you ask the question who has hit this week . In 70% has not picked up a bat in 7 days!

What baffles me even more is why they dont find an instructor to reinforce what they just spent close to 100 dollars to learn......
 
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punchout and we ask why Ohio is behind Cali. . Tim, I will even bet some won't even pick up a bat till softball season.
 
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Why indeed. Part of the problem is the parents, and part of the problems are the players. I remember a skinny little girl in 6th grade while watching the Buckeyes play softball, telling me she was going to play on that field someday. I never forgot that moment in time.(neither did she)
 
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A positive note on this subject. I think I see more coaches now wanting to learn than I did in the past. You see more coaches going to camps and clinics. That didn't happen 12 years ago when I started coaching. You learned by reading and going to college camps trying to steal ideas. Now you even have organizations going to instructors so they all teach the same way.
 
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I love Ohio fastpitch. I let my frustrations with you guys get me fired up. Act like a bunch of know it alls.
All the idolizing you people do is funny. Just like in life behind kissing is so funny. I am glad you all can't notice it. Maybe you should all bring your noses back down to earth and you will be able to see Ohio has some darn good players.
The population is the only difference. My oldest DD has played for over 10 years and 6 of them has been year round. Can you believe it even here in Ohio you can play and practice year round.

Off course we do.. That is why I'm trying to figure out why we can't get those equally as talented DDs to realize the same benefits other states have. our top5 don't get the same benefits (ie: ooportunities player 50-75 get in other states,,) AND THEY SHOULD.

Don't think we have the BRAND to sell yet. However, CB, Howard, Bigtrain, Bob Hoyles, ... and others coming together can ESTABLISH as respected and marketable OHIO BRAND that our top kids can/will receive the same benefits kids of same talent/skill do in those HOT States.
 
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I used that line on my kid a couple years ago in the winter kept in her ear " pitchers work all year" " can't let them outwork you" "stay ahead of the competition" In reality it's hard, to bust your can in Jan /feb/march with no games or sunshine in sight. Got to use every motivational tool available. MD
 
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Let me also touch on something here. If all of you know so much and what the problems are how come you can't fix it. There is enough of you on here if you could all get your players together it would be the greatest team in the world.

You obviously don't get it. This discussion almost has nothing to do with the players themselves. Collecting 11 great players and playing ball is what some of the HIGH LEVEL teams/Orgs in Ohio try to do.

DO they have the relationships & resources required to actually develop the required TECHNIQUES/SKILLS Colleges NEED and able to certify OHIO talent in which MAJOR Colleges trust their past product and opinions.

ANSWER: NO

However, if Bustos tells ANY COllege.... : Jamie Smith, is the real deal. Guess what. Janie Smith is getting invited to a whole bunch more OPPORTUNITIES in her life, whether it be showcases, Travel Experiences, or OMG better schooling then what was on their radar before.

OHIO needs a BRAND and A VOICE to develop & promote the one's that are qualified and looking for those ELITE Opportunities.
 
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The girls and the parents were told they are not working hard enough on their own to take it to the next level...it was the same message at your show case when she asked how many had practiced the week of your show case and only 7 kids raised their hands as to doing it ONCE knowing there would be 25 college coaches watching them.

Dan that is not in the gene pool, that is the girls being lazy and a lack of time management on their part. We have kids in college that are not the greatest athletes however as Crystl said if you can hit a ball they will find a place for you and you will get in the game.

Thanks Howard

Howard,

You have referenced that many times, about only 7 girls raised their hands at my showcase. I knew/know many of the girls there. Not to be jerk about things, but most attend formal hitting several times a week along with hitting on their own in converted garages or basements. As kids sometimes do when ask a question, they did not come forward. In that crowd were at least 10 big 10 Committs, 3 SEC committs, and numerous other committments. So they do/did work to get where they are at.

You also wont win the arguement that the proper genetics do not help in certain things in life. Crystal's genetics most definately allows her to hit a ball 350 ft, run 2.8 to first, throw a softball 70mph. This does not say she didnt bust her butt or overcome many odds to get where she is today. But absolutely, genetics played a huge role in her developement as a player.
 
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Howard,

You have referenced that many times, about only 7 girls raised their hands at my showcase. I knew/know many of the girls there. Not to be jerk about things, but most attend formal hitting several times a week along with hitting on their own in converted garages or basements. As kids sometimes do when ask a question, they did not come forward. In that crowd were at least 10 big 10 Committs, 3 SEC committs, and numerous other committments. So they do/did work to get where they are at.

You also wont win the arguement that the proper genetics do not help in certain things in life. Crystal's genetics most definately allows her to hit a ball 350 ft, run 2.8 to first, throw a softball 70mph. This does not say she didnt bust her butt or overcome many odds to get where she is today. But absolutely, genetics played a huge role in her developement as a player.

Dan the same question was asked at Columbus as was asked in Indy so it must be in the water.

Crystl is taller than Mom or Dad :D

Your friend will be here Wed.

Thanks Howard
 
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Dan the same question was asked at Columbus as was asked in Indy so it must be in the water.

Crystl is taller than Mom or Dad :D

Your friend will be here Wed.

Thanks Howard

Not to get nit-picky but the question was asked " who hit on their own without a coach or parent last week". That doesn't mean they didn't pick up a bat in 7 days before the clinic. It can be they are working with dads and coaches as well as doing games indoor etc.

The point was made and my DD is stepping up her training and working on a log to track her work.
 
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