What will turn off a college coach about a player?

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Another thing, coaches like to get calls from the girls they are recruiting(it gives them a chance to get to know them a little). Not sure the same can be said about getting calls from the parents.

The coaches that we have spoken to really wanted to speak to the parents FIRST. Since in my case, I have a sophmore and the coaches are restricted in contacts. They were very interested in obtaining info on attitude, technical aspects of there schooling and the dd's style of play, personality, and general interest in the school they represented. After the few initial contacts and data gathering on both sides, the recruits and the recruiters take over for the "getting to know each other" phase. I found it quite disconcerting to call a coach for the first time. Can you imagine what the girls are thinking!

 

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This is a funny topic and shows how close to useless womens college sports really are. Because if this was some guy athlete that could slam dunk the ball from the foul line or some 6foot 3inch 260lb linebacker that could run a 4 flat 40 time or some Randy Moss type player that would be putting fans in the stands I dont think the university would really care!;&

 

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This is a funny topic and shows how close to useless womens college sports really are. Because if this was some guy athlete that could slam dunk the ball from the foul line or some 6foot 3inch 260lb linebacker that could run a 4 flat 40 time or some Randy Moss type player that would be putting fans in the stands I dont think the university would really care!;&

How bout dads standing around discussing ther Gas............:lmao:

 

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There are many women who get good educations that they wouldn't be able to get without women's college sports. Creating useful, educated, contributing members of society is hardly useless. Don't always believe the writing on the cave walls.

 

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Grunts and bangs his club on the ground in agreement

 

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I just got a good idea from the last sentence of the post just above. We have a clinic this weekend that will include 4-5 potential recruits and I've just found a good job for a couple of our key players.

Knew a college coach, who is no longer in the area, that used to have his daughter hang around a team that had a girl he was interested in to find out how they interacted with team mates, coaches and parents....

 

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Klump good point. This is not small change to many of us when you are talking 6 figures for a 4 year scholarship. Many of these schools you would never go to if it wasn't for the scholarship. When we get camp info sent to you, ( only way they can make contact at her age) then you look up how much it costs to go to XYS school , it opens your eyes. Being new at this, I have asked many for advice and it can be trying for parents . All the college coaches have told us the same thing when you attend a camp. Pick education first, softball second.

 

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Ump,
The restriction in contact extends to the parents as well as the players. Most of the coaches have called me(the coach) before having contact with the girls. That is pretty much how the girls get the numbers to call unless they were on their campus. I have dealt with my 2 dd's(one signed and 1 verballed and have never talked to one of the coaches on the phone) as well as quite of few of the other girls that are playing for me. None of the coaches have asked me to have a parent call them but they have all asked that the girls them them a call. Do you think they expect to get real answers from a kids parent?

 

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I think the team jumper comments is being made by travel coaches LOL, I have yet to see a questionaire or talk to a coach that asked for anything more then current high-school and travel info. Its #1 ability #2 grades and #3 personality ie coachable etc.
Cat Osterman was going to be college ball player as long as she graduated high school,The president of the science club who is the #12 player on her high school team is not playing college ball. Its these coaches jobs, they want good ball players who they don't have to worry about on or off the field. But its their ability on the field first that got the coach interested

Of course this is just as Klump would say IMO!

*side note you are there for an education and life experience so grades are crazy important, just making a point that ability is IMO most important to coaches the other 2 factors may determine if they sign you, but without ability your not playing college ball lol

 

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Ump,
The restriction in contact extends to the parents as well as the players. Most of the coaches have called me(the coach) before having contact with the girls. That is pretty much how the girls get the numbers to call unless they were on their campus. I have dealt with my 2 dd's(one signed and 1 verballed and have never talked to one of the coaches on the phone) as well as quite of few of the other girls that are playing for me. None of the coaches have asked me to have a parent call them but they have all asked that the girls them them a call. Do you think they expect to get real answers from a kids parent?

The colleges that have approached my dd's coaches to have us call were all from many states away. Maybe they wanted to guage the interest of us (the $$) getting her to camps before starting contact with my dd (which they have). Who knows what the intention was, just know how it went down in our case. When she is a senior, she can call any coach she wants, but while she is a sophmore, I'll still be on the phone the first time. Call me over protective, or whatever.

 

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How bout dads standing around discussing ther Gas............:lmao:

Fome the looks of it Tim the three of us will never crop dust eachother again! :yahoo:

 

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You'll figure it out when your DD gets into college ball. Ability (softball skills) will GET her there, grades and hard work will KEEP her there. In a nutshell - she proves her athletic ability to college coaches by her play in summer softball showcases, and her academic ability is demonstrated by (1) high school core subject grades, and (2) ACT (Ohio) SAT (National) grade scores.

Never forget... universities are businesses. Women's athletics (albeit at a lower $$ level than men's) is all about putting a good face on the school in order to attract students. The big picture for the coaches is to further that mission - create an atmosphere that will attract tuition paying students. The athletic scholarships are balanced and funded according to the school's dedication to that mission- ie: what they can afford.

1. Is your DD an excellent athlete?
2. Is your DD an excellent softball player? (different than #1)
3. Is your DD's ACT/SAT score within the university's requirements?
4. Have parents taught her to be a self-starter?
5. Can she be counted on to be a good ambassador for the school?

Those attributes will take her a LONG way!

#5 is a BIGGIE!! If a kid is a complainer, a blamer, lazy, etc. it will eventually show through for all to see. Coaches want kids who are a part of the solution - NOT a part of the problem.

 

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You'll figure it out when your DD gets into college ball. Ability (softball skills) will GET her there, grades and hard work will KEEP her there. In a nutshell - she proves her athletic ability to college coaches by her play in summer softball showcases, and her academic ability is demonstrated by (1) high school core subject grades, and (2) ACT (Ohio) SAT (National) grade scores.

Never forget... universities are businesses. Women's athletics (albeit at a lower $$ level than men's) is all about putting a good face on the school in order to attract students. The big picture for the coaches is to further that mission - create an atmosphere that will attract tuition paying students. The athletic scholarships are balanced and funded according to the school's dedication to that mission- ie: what they can afford.

1. Is your DD an excellent athlete?
2. Is your DD an excellent softball player? (different than #1)
3. Is your DD's ACT/SAT score within the university's requirements?
4. Have parents taught her to be a self-starter?
5. Can she be counted on to be a good ambassador for the school?

Those attributes will take her a LONG way!

#5 is a BIGGIE!! If a kid is a complainer, a blamer, lazy, etc. it will eventually show through for all to see. Coaches want kids who are a part of the solution - NOT a part of the problem.

Nice post

 

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I took my dd to a local college (YSU) clinic at the very end of the summer. That coach told us that we shouldn't worry about making a film of her skills, or talking to colleges until she was a junior. What is your opinions on this. She is currently a freshman and has not played for her high school yet.

 

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sad627: Go to a college recruiting session. They will cover the rules and the time frame and give you hand out and advice. My dd is also a Freshman. They will cover when you can have contact, phone calls, e mails, DVD skill video, the whole works. We have been to three and made my wife tag along the last time. As a freshman, you are very limited. Play in showcases and go to a college camp, that you may be interested in. We have been invited to camps, because that is the only time they can talk to you as a Freshman. Just my 2 cents. .

 

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sad627: Go to a college recruiting session. They will cover the rules and the time frame and give you hand out and advice. My dd is also a Freshman. They will cover when you can have contact, phone calls, e mails, DVD skill video, the whole works. We have been to three and made my wife tag along the last time. As a freshman, you are very limited. Play in showcases and go to a college camp, that you may be interested in. We have been invited to camps, because that is the only time they can talk to you as a Freshman. Just my 2 cents. .

But if your freshman dd calls the coach and the coach answers the phone they can talk 24/7. Same thing if you set up an unofficial visit - they can talk face to face until they turn blue.

 

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Knew a college coach, who is no longer in the area, that used to have his daughter hang around a team that had a girl he was interested in to find out how they interacted with team mates, coaches and parents....[/QUOTE

Bear, interesting comment... it made me think of another tip for those starting the process. I know of one Div 1 coach in Ohio that will have her father go watch specific recruits at HS games or tourneys that the coaches cannot attend. This "helper" specifically watches what the girls do off the field (in the dugout, between games, with parents, etc). This particular person does not wear school colors or indicate in any way that he is connected to a college program.

Tell your DDs this could happen to create an awareness that they might be being watched even when it's not apparent. We all kind of notice when college coaches are around, and players will be on their best behavior typically. However, if your DD is one that may get an attitude at times when she thinks no recruiters are present , she better get over it because there could be a "spy" in the midst.

 

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Thank you SBFamily and IceBlack. I just don't know where to start! I am going to try and get her to a college clinic. Not sure about showcases because she is still 14u as a freshman. Her travel team will play in one or 2, but next year will be 16u elegible.

 

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I heard an interesting answer from a college coach to the question - "With talent being equal, would you rather have a player that has devoted themselves to softball (travel, hs) year-round, or a player that has also played other sports (volleyball, ******, basketball, etc.)?" The coach's answer, "Girls have to realize that just because they were 'THE' player on their HS or travel team, doesn't mean that will be the case in college. Most if not all of our girls on our college roster were 'THE' player on their respective teams. Therefore, I want a girl that can cope with the disappointment in not starting as a freshman. I want a team player that knows how to face adversity and get stronger through it. By being involved in other sports, it gives us a little better indication that she can adapt and grasp the team concept from players and a sport where she might not be 'THE' player."

I think this goes along with JoeA's "entitlement" concerns.

 

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sad627:

I hate to disagree with the individual college coach, but I recommend that you get busy now. [Many colleges are done with theri 2010 class, some are done with their 2011 class, and so it seems to me that the 2012 & 2013 kids ought to be getting busy.] What subject area does your daughter expect to emphasize in college. What size school? How far from home? She needs to be thinking about that now. (I know she may change her mind [probably will] several times, but you have to start the process.) The high school guidance counselor should be able to help find colleges in which she might have an interest. Your daughter could E-mail the coaches of those schools and introduce herself and ask about information concerning the college and the softball program.

If you get your daughter into one of Kirt Whiteside's QDS he will outline and walk you through the entire process. Check out http://theqsport.com/

Good Luck!!