Yet another "You make the call"...

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Saturday, on the frozen tundra of Firestone Stadium;

Bases loaded, batter hits grounder between SS & 3rd. Third baseman fields it and throws runner out. But wait! Runner on second interfered with SS - who was also attempting to field hit ball.

Blue called runner on second "out" for intereference, but put runner who scored back on third and called batter safe at first. Seems logical to me since it's a "dead ball" as soon as runner and SS collided. However, coaches argued, and umps discussed for the next 5 minutes.

Was the right call made?

 

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Saturday, on the frozen tundra of Firestone Stadium;

Bases loaded, batter hits grounder between SS & 3rd. Third baseman fields it and throws runner out. But wait! Runner on second interfered with SS - who was also attempting to field hit ball.

Blue called runner on second "out" for intereference, but put runner who scored back on third and called batter safe at first. Seems logical to me since it's a "dead ball" as soon as runner and SS collided. However, coaches argued, and umps discussed for the next 5 minutes.

Was the right call made?

How is it interference if she still made the play and got the out at 1st?

 

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Saturday, on the frozen tundra of Firestone Stadium;

Bases loaded, batter hits grounder between SS & 3rd. Third baseman fields it and throws runner out. But wait! Runner on second interfered with SS - who was also attempting to field hit ball.

Blue called runner on second "out" for intereference, but put runner who scored back on third and called batter safe at first. Seems logical to me since it's a "dead ball" as soon as runner and SS collided. However, coaches argued, and umps discussed for the next 5 minutes.

Was the right call made?

Almost, but not quite. Actually, by rule, the runner closet to home should have been called out. The effect, however, was the same. No run scored, batter-runner safe at first, bases (still) loaded. It is a dead ball as soon as the interference occurs.

If the play was at the plate, and it was an obvious attempt to avoid a double play the runner could also be called out.

 

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Bases loaded? If the 3rd baseman fielded the ball in time to make the throw to 1st for the out, why didn't she instead make the throw to home for the force and save a run? Was there already two outs?

 

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If I understand correctly.
1. Dead ball foul on runner for interference with SS
2. Batter gets thrown out by 3rd
3. Runner on 3rd has to go back to third ?????

Dead Ball

A ball is called "dead," or out of play, when it becomes blocked or ruled dead by the umpire. At the time the ball becomes dead no player can be put out, bases cannot be run and runs cannot be scored. A dead ball does not negate advances on bases that happened while the ball was live, such as when a home run is hit out of the field. Otherwise, runners must return to their bases. There may be a delayed dead ball. In this case, the ball remains in play even though there's been a violation. The umpire signals a delayed dead ball. At the end of the playing action, the ball becomes dead and the umpire makes a decision about the violation. Delayed dead balls most often are called due to illegal pitches, catcher or field obstruction, plate umpire interference or equipment interference.


Runner goes back to 3rd, Runner on 2 is out, Batter awarded 1st
:lmao:

 

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I think it all boils down to when the "dead-ball" was declared.

By your discription of the play I am not sure what the call would be. Since the 3B made the play on the ball in sufficient time to register the PO there could be a case made against the SS for obstruction as well. Sounds like a bang-bang play that you have to see to be able to make a sound judgement on.

 

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3DM's assumption is right. There was not enough time to get the runner at home.

 

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Lot's to cover on this one!

First off, the protection against interference when fielding a ground ball can only be extended to ONE fielder at a time. If two fielders are going for the ball, the umpire has to decide which one of them is most likely to field the ball. ONLY that fielder is protected from interference.

On this play, if the umpire judged that F5 had the protection, then there was no interference (and it might have even been obstruction against F6).

Hard to tell without seeing it. Did F6 have a legitimate play on the ball and did the runner contacting her prevent it? Would F6 have had a shot at the ball before it got to F5? If the answer to those two questions is "yes", then the umpire made the right call. Ball immediately dead on the interference, runner out, batter-runner placed on first base and all other runners returned to last base touched at the time of the interference (which sounds like what they did).

If, on the other hand, F5 was the protected fielder (ie: the one most likely to have fielded the ball, and been able to field it before F6 had a chance to) then there was no interference on the play. Live ball, play on and get what you get.

If F6 wasn't the protected fielder, you might have the issue of obstruction to deal with and that might involve placing runners after the play to negate the effects of the obstruction.

Let's say F6 was protected and the runner did interfere with her. The ball is dead at that instant. Whatever F5 subsequently did (fielded it and threw out a runner) is moot. Since the ball is already dead, no further play can be made. Enforce the interference as noted above.

Not really much to argue on this one. It's a straight up interference call. Once the umpire tells the coach he had F6 as the protected fielder..end of story. Five minutes is about four minutes and thirty seconds too long to spend on this one!

 

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friday=copley/springfield game, copley player called safe on second high-fiving the ump..

 

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Huh? You mean like the umpire was congratulating the player?

Totally UNPROFESSIONAL. Something like this, if seen by a supervisor, should result in a good butt chewing.