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If you voted "Yes", and care to comment further, please do.
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No names here....I will say some private schools have been recruiting at most sports for years. Is it wrong? I don't think so..... but is it fair to other schools who don't? No ?
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Smaller private schools compete with (or beat) much larger public schools all the time.
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Smaller private schools compete with (or beat) much larger public schools all the time.
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It depends on how you are approached and look at the situation. ?If you run into a high school coach and he say's to you, any chance you and the family are moving into _____ school district next year. ?Sure would be nice to see your daughters in the ole school colors..you pick the schools and colors.
Would that be considered recruiting? ?
Would that be considered recruiting? ?
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Public high school open enrollment is to ptivate's recuitment 
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I do believe that families migrate to certain schools for athletic purposes more often than high school coaches recruit players for their respective athletic programs. However, if one thinks about the number of high schools, it's hard to believe there is not recruiting going on. It's happening somewhere......
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Tbolts said:
If he was Yoda ;D
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man, 2 yoda references in one day! something in water must be!
anyhow, i know in texas they do....there's always something suspicious sbout a team that always seems to have the horses to make a run at district/regionals/state finals.....now, some of this is credited to a superior farm league (rec leagues/summer leagues run by coaches for several years that builds the talent pool)...like for instance, Lakewood or Triad (dont they always seem to be in the playoff hunt?) softball, or Sheridan football....i think families do move into areas more conducive to winning (which brings me back to an earlier point--parents want to win at any cost!) and education...we moved into picktown for our kids, and things are changing (demographics/neighborhoods/etc) but you don't think i remembered reading about their test scores, and their state runs in basketball, and talk of their football team?...it resonates with parents...and as a teacher, the educational standards are a bonus! if i had it my way, i'd move the little ones to dublin or Olentangy....if they played b-ball, they'd go to Canton somewhere
anyhow, i know in texas they do....there's always something suspicious sbout a team that always seems to have the horses to make a run at district/regionals/state finals.....now, some of this is credited to a superior farm league (rec leagues/summer leagues run by coaches for several years that builds the talent pool)...like for instance, Lakewood or Triad (dont they always seem to be in the playoff hunt?) softball, or Sheridan football....i think families do move into areas more conducive to winning (which brings me back to an earlier point--parents want to win at any cost!) and education...we moved into picktown for our kids, and things are changing (demographics/neighborhoods/etc) but you don't think i remembered reading about their test scores, and their state runs in basketball, and talk of their football team?...it resonates with parents...and as a teacher, the educational standards are a bonus! if i had it my way, i'd move the little ones to dublin or Olentangy....if they played b-ball, they'd go to Canton somewhere
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I think they do, but its a lot less then people think. I also love the hypocrisy regarding athletics, if a kid chose a private school because of their great music department people would say good for her, if she picked a school for their great softball program its what about the education! Or that school recruited her.
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Good Points Statman. My family is at this moving cross road now due to my Wife's work moving. We are looking at academics, athletics, and researching areas over all before settling on a location. SO, to get on topic I guess a school district will be recruiting us by past performance over all.
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I'm not so sure it is the same thing.Pepper Brooks said:
I can't help thinking that if a parent is willing to move in order to further a sports career (or music, education, arts, etc.), chances are pretty good that the child started the activity long before high school and the parent will have done the research and sold the house before the child's freshmen year. It is possible that a parent(s) would like to send their daughter to a private school, but can't afford it, then she shines in a sport or an art and that opens up an opportunity for her to attend the school they wanted.
However, when a girl goes to one school, makes a name for herself, then suddenly shows up at a school where recruiting rules don't apply or are ignored, ?people are going to be suspicious!!!
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just kicking said:Public high school open enrollment is to ptivate's recuitment
Wrong...If you open enroll in a public school, after your freshman year, you must sit a year. ?This is not the case in a private school. This why kids don't tranfer to public schools, mostly to private. ?None of them want to sit out a year to play.
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moving too late would hurt, do high school players in Ohio lose a year of eligibility when they transfer? is this the same for junior high....this is what they instituted in Texas but there are loopholes in every system
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Statman Ray said:
If they physically move into the district they do not have to sit out a year, otherwise they have to sit.
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This is a great article from the Akron Beacon Journal, May 19, 2008, so two months old. I hope you all read it!
http://www.ohio.com/news/dyer/19062939.html
http://www.ohio.com/news/dyer/19062939.html
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Interesting!
(Not surprising)
(Not surprising)
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As a parent that has a DD at a private catholic school and someone who is very familiar with many of the private school programs in the greater Cleveland area; there is little to no financial incentive offered for girls to attend these schools. ?I cannot speak to the boys football & wrestling program, but I do know that at very young ages these kids start dreaming of playing for St. Ed's or Ignatius. ?And their parents feed the dream and then shell out the $11k a year for their kids to go there.
I think it has more to do with the families being willing to spend the $$ on private lessons, practice facilities, etc... Not saying it doesn't happen elsewhere, just more parents willing to do it at private schools.?
As far as the transfers later in HS: you put two kids of equal talent in front of a college recruiter and 9 out of 10 times the edge will go to the private school kid due to the perception that the curriculum at the private school is much more intense, so therefore the kid is a better equipped student. ?Not always fair, but it is reality. ?
I think it has more to do with the families being willing to spend the $$ on private lessons, practice facilities, etc... Not saying it doesn't happen elsewhere, just more parents willing to do it at private schools.?
As far as the transfers later in HS: you put two kids of equal talent in front of a college recruiter and 9 out of 10 times the edge will go to the private school kid due to the perception that the curriculum at the private school is much more intense, so therefore the kid is a better equipped student. ?Not always fair, but it is reality. ?
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Some of the big name schools - private - can I say catholic? ?end up with athletes that were in public grade school until 8th grade.
Some of the best athletes in the area. - boys and girls
They compete for state every other year, or more.
Did all these parents win the lottery, to send there kid to a highschool ,?that cost say $10,000 or more a year to attend.
What was the question? Do high schools recruit?
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Some of the best athletes in the area. - boys and girls
They compete for state every other year, or more.
Did all these parents win the lottery, to send there kid to a highschool ,?that cost say $10,000 or more a year to attend.
What was the question? Do high schools recruit?
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Now what was the name of that school that just won the state championship... again? North Canton something or other? Now what public school did coach G. recruit those girls from? And - how much is that tuition? Hmmm...
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Not all state championships are won by parochial schools, just a very highly disproportional share. No wonder.
Why won't Ohio do what Texas, Maryland, and New York have done? Give the private schools their own tournament division.
Why won't Ohio do what Texas, Maryland, and New York have done? Give the private schools their own tournament division.
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I would have to say, for the most part, not recruiting - just good players seeking out good programs. And parents trying to give their kids opportunities. Basically, the same as what people do in travel ball, trying to find the best situation for their kid. I don't see anything wrong with any of it. It doesn't just happen in private schools either. Remember the North College Hill boys basketball program? However, I have nothing against having 2 different divisions - private and public.
As far as what it costs to attend - I guess some people do win the lottery, others have the money, others have family members who offer to pay the bill. - Not sure what difference any of that makes though.
As far as what it costs to attend - I guess some people do win the lottery, others have the money, others have family members who offer to pay the bill. - Not sure what difference any of that makes though.
