Unusual Request?

default · Apr 7, 2009

This happened after Umping a H.S. Game. After the game as usual my partner and myself try to exit the games without drawing much attention towards us and head to the parking lot, to get out of our gear and leave for home.

But after this game a man caught up with us (I'm thinkin' here comes TROUBLE!) but that was not to be the case, He asked if we would be willing to sign the scorebook which he held in his hand, I'm thinking well maybe this is something this School has done "New to Me" for whatever reason and so we both signed the scorebook without any incident.

A few days later I spoke with a parent who's child is on the same team, and she asked me if .......... asked us to sign a scorebook for him. I said yes, and that we signed it for whatever reason???? She stated that he does this all the time, and that the scorebook is his to keeps separate Stats for his "DD" then those of the H.S.

Why would a parent want separate Stats? And what does it prove that we signed the scorebook for him? I can't see a College using his Scorebook Stats over a H.S. go figure!

FASTPITCH! Anything else, And you're playing to SLOW!

default · Apr 7, 2009

Strange indeed but........was at a game this week where I heard a parent telling another parent they were keeping their own book to prove that certain players stats were being padded over other players stats....don't really know why it matters never have seen a college scout put much credence in HS stats anyway.......not hard to put up good numbers in HS ball...certainly may run into the occassional dominant pitcher but for the most part the exception not the rule.

default · Apr 7, 2009

I think most of us have been around this sport long enough to see how fanatical some parents can be. To some people, stats are EVERYTHING. (Nevermind how the girl is a primadonna and none of her teammates can get along with her; She's batting .700!)

Please take the advice that's already been offered here: Stats don't mean much in HS ball.

default · Apr 7, 2009

I as well keep a scorebook for my DD and have since 8th grade. Its for her to look back on like a scrapbook or memory book. I keep school scores and travel ball scores. I figure up here stats and share them with her from year to year for her to see if she is improving and what she might need to work on. I have never had the book signed by an umpire. He is not hurting anyone by doing this and maybe it makes him feel official by getting it signed. Who knows!!!

default · Apr 7, 2009

I remember one season I was keeping the official book, and I had a parent tell me that I obviously didn't know what I was doing because he was keeping stats on his daughter and she was batting almost .600 (my book had her on base percentage at less than .200 for the season;&). I humored him and asked to see his stats for the last game - his DD had gone 0 for 4, but he had her at .500. His reasoning, DD had hit the ball and made it to first twice before the ball got back to the infield - didn't matter that both "hits" were routine pop flies to shallow right field.

It was even better the next game as his book had her going 3 for 2.

I just shook my head and walked away....:lmao:

default · Apr 7, 2009

TheBearMay said:
It was even better the next game as his book had her going 3 for 2.

I just shook my head and walked away....:lmao:

Come on Bear, that's how you know you're for real, when you can get a hit without even having to waste time with an at-bat! haha.

default · Apr 7, 2009

I keep my own book also but so dd can see how opposing hitters hit against her (or lack of) lol. I keep the pitch counts what she throws. She then studies the hitters when she sees them again. With that we figured out how to pitch against a team that has been a thorn in her side for 2 years. Last time she struck out 13 of them for a win. I don't approach anyone else about comparing stats. Also for other dd she uses it also on how to hit against certain pitchers as well as calling a game. So there are benefits to it also.

default · Apr 7, 2009

I like stats but know they are just one of the factors that go into "how the player is performing". What if your dd goes 2 for 4 but left 4 on base because the only hits she had where with bases empty? Stats look good but didn't help the team when it needed it.

But daddy can say she hit .500 and we lost by a run big deal !!!!

default · Apr 7, 2009

hey, blue, does this mean i need to trash your signature that i had made into a stamp? muhahahaha

default · Apr 7, 2009

Were those pop flies "touched" or "untouched" before they hit the ground? The way I understand it, it doesn't matter if it was "catchable", only if it didn't hit a glove. Then it's still considered a hit, if the runner is safe. If I'm wrong, let me know.

default · Apr 7, 2009

TheBearMay said:
I remember one season I was keeping the official book, and I had a parent tell me that I obviously didn't know what I was doing because he was keeping stats on his daughter and she was batting almost .600 (my book had her on base percentage at less than .200 for the season;&). I humored him and asked to see his stats for the last game - his DD had gone 0 for 4, but he had her at .500. His reasoning, DD had hit the ball and made it to first twice before the ball got back to the infield - didn't matter that both "hits" were routine pop flies to shallow right field.

It was even better the next game as his book had her going 3 for 2.

I just shook my head and walked away....:lmao:

Was that the first time you ever met Statman?

default · Apr 7, 2009

Blue, Maybe they know someday you will be famous and sell them on Ebay...

Put the books away and enjoy your kids games....

Some have been doing it since 7th grade. like those games really matter..

default · Apr 7, 2009

TheRinger said:
Was that the first time you ever met Statman?

thats always good for a laugh! statman is actually retired somewhat this spring....let them see the error of their ways! I spit on your statbook! (okay, kinda dramatic)

default · Apr 7, 2009

Gilly's Mom said:
Were those pop flies "touched" or "untouched" before they hit the ground? The way I understand it, it doesn't matter if it was "catchable", only if it didn't hit a glove. Then it's still considered a hit, if the runner is safe. If I'm wrong, let me know.

They were caught for outs...

default · Apr 7, 2009

Statman Ray said:
hey, blue, does this mean i need to trash your signature that i had made into a stamp? muhahahaha

That's a Classic! Ahh! I'll sign your books Statman, heck even if they're dated back 5 years ago. :lmao:

FASTPITCH! Anyhing else. And you're playing to SLOW!

default · Apr 7, 2009

TheBearMay said:
They were caught for outs...

lol! all fast runners hit .600

default · Apr 7, 2009

Case in point - stats really only matter if EVERYONE clasified them the same way. Perceptions change and knowing the ability of someone changes the way you judge errors, "catchable", etc... What may be routine for some travel players may be out of the ordinary for some at the HS level. JMHO

default · Apr 7, 2009

Theres only one stat book that matters and it's the coaches. I see no reason why or how having the umpire sign a parents scorebook amounts to anything. The only thing that they can varify is the final score. Base hits, errors, K's, steals etc are not their responsibility.

default · Apr 7, 2009

Credit a hit 1. when a batter advances safely to any base on a fair ball which settles on the ground or touches a fence before being touched by a fielder, or which clears a fence even if touched by a fielder.

Granted, there is some subjectivity when it comes to scorekeeping, but a player's "ability" isn't what is being scored.

As for scoring put outs as hits, that's one dad who really just doesn't get it and that'll be one scoresheet that'll never balance out.

A scoresheet is balanced or proven when the following formula is satisfied for both sides (teams): At Bats (AB) + Base on Balls (BB) + Sacrifice Bunts and Flies (SAC) + On Base by Interference (INT) or Obstruction (OBS) + On by International Tie Breaker (ITB) equals Runs scored (R) + Left on Base (LOB) + Opponents Putouts (PO)

default · Apr 7, 2009

Bear- I was just needed clarification. Thanx.

Hitter- Thank you too! Now, send that to book daddy!

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