Ejection...?

default · Jun 27, 2009

Maybe I am being over sensitive, so someone help me out here! Last night it was late in the game and our pitcher was tiring and she hit the batter. This batter was so incensed, she threw her bat like a hammer throw into her dugout's fence - luckily the on deck circle was on down the line so the on deck batter avoided a trip to the hospital - then the hit batter stared down our pitcher and started towards her as though she was going to run up and take her out! This team was a problem from the first pitch, the first base coach being tossed the inning before because he didn't understand what an infield fly rule meant. What should the umpire done with this batter...? ;&

default · Jun 27, 2009

Should have tossed the batter for unsportsmen like conduct.

default · Jun 27, 2009

should have been tossed , or removed from the game by a coach.

default · Jun 27, 2009

Simple... Tossed out...

default · Jun 27, 2009

As soon as that bat left her hand, the coach should have put her butt on the pine. Then the umpire should have tossed her to the parking lot for unsportsmanlike conduct. Then her parents should have beat her *** for that embarassing display.

default · Jun 27, 2009

Klump said:
As soon as that bat left her hand, the coach should have put her butt on the pine. Then the umpire should have tossed her to the parking lot for unsportsmanlike conduct. Then her parents should have beat her *** for that embarassing display.

Sounds like we're the same kinda parents! Yeah, tossed, ejected and beaten. Mine would have probably missed the next game too, because that's how I can really "hurt" her.

default · Jun 27, 2009

Not that this is an excuse, but how old was this girl? Sounds very unsportsmanlike. I agree that at the very least she should have been taken out by the coach (unlikely as he was tossed too!). If she were mine she would be riding the pine for at the very least another game.

default · Jun 27, 2009

First , She should of been called out for throwing the bat, as this is what the rule is for, throwing the bat in anger......... Second the coach should of then benched her, as this is bad sportsmenship for his team......

default · Jun 27, 2009

I'll agree with an ejection all the way. I have very few ejections in my games, but this one would be pretty much automatic. It's specifically spelled out in the rules as an ejectionable offense.

But, just to be clear, the standard rules of softball DO NOT allow the umpire to call the batter out for throwing the bat. Some leagues may call this an out and, if they do, then it is a special "house rule" that they have devised themselves.

All the umpire can do is eject the player. She can then have a legal substitute take her place at first base for the hit batter award.

default · Jun 27, 2009

bretman said:
I'll agree with an ejection all the way. I have very few ejections in my games, but this one would be pretty much automatic. It's specifically spelled out in the rules as an ejectionable offense.

But, just to be clear, the standard rules of softball DO NOT allow the umpire to call the batter out for throwing the bat. Some leagues may call this an out and, if they do, then it is a special "house rule" that they have devised themselves.

All the umpire can do is eject the player. She can then have a legal substitute take her place at first base for the hit batter award.

oh even better

default · Jun 27, 2009

It would have been my luck that it was my bat.

How old was the thug and what did she end up doing? Was she just running around with her chest puffed out like a rooster?

default · Jun 27, 2009

Klump said:
As soon as that bat left her hand, the coach should have put her butt on the pine. Then the umpire should have tossed her to the parking lot for unsportsmanlike conduct. Then her parents should have beat her *** for that embarassing display.

You hit this one on the nail. I would not let her play for a coach that didn't have the integrity to sit her and I would have ended her season right after the coach benched her. Then she would have spent A LOT of time in her room reading and thinking about how she would never act like that again. Of course I would have hugged her and told her I loved her right before I locked her door.

default · Jun 27, 2009

mustohiofastpitch said:
You hit this one on the nail. I would not let her play for a coach that didn't have the integrity to sit her and I would have ended her season right after the coach benched her. Then she would have spent A LOT of time in her room reading and thinking about how she would never act like that again. Of course I would have hugged her and told her I loved her right before I locked her door.

Couldn't agree more with both of you. I like to see a little attitude on the field, but that's way out of line.

default · Jun 27, 2009

This was 16u. The umpire took time and talked to her after our coach voiced a loud objection to the behavior. The player was not ejected, nor called out. The 'coach' of this team had no problem with this behavior - remember, they had a coach ejected for verbally abusing the umpire on an infield fly call. From the behavior of the rest of the team, this type of behavior is not just acceptable to the coach and organization, but promoted...

...after some discussions, the batter actually walked towards our pitcher with bat in hand, then threw the bat accross the field into her dugout fence hitting the fence at about 6ft, so her throw was very hard. I thought she threw the bat immediately before approaching our pitcher, but other accounts saw it differently...

Since the umpire allowed this behavior, I instructed my DD catcher to attempt to disarm the batter prior to her going after our pitcher if the same situation came up. What do you tell your players to do in this situation. We will play this team again I am sure and this is not the first time this player has tried to intimidate a player...

..and no, neither the player nor any coaches apologized to me, our team or our pitcher...

default · Jun 27, 2009

Centerville FP said:
Since the umpire allowed this behavior, I instructed my DD catcher to attempt to disarm the batter prior to her going after our pitcher if the same situation came up. What do you tell your players to do in this situation. We will play this team again I am sure and this is not the first time this player has tried to intimidate a player...

I certainly wouldn't put my dd or anyone else's dd in harms way by asking them to disarm the offender. If it happens again, I would have my pitcher head for 2nd base. Put as much distance as she can between her and the offender. jmo

default · Jun 28, 2009

:lmao:I would say definatley toss the kid for throwing the bat. But as far as staring down the pitcher and maybe even jawing at the pitcher up the line would be fine with me. Now as far as asking my kid to disarm the kid with the bat absolutly not, but telling my kid to run too the sencond base to put distance....Its safe to say I know my kid and if someone charged my kid well they would definately regret that decision. This might be a little inapproiate but I've seen my kid hit someone before its not pretty...:yahoo:

default · Jun 28, 2009

Klump said:
As soon as that bat left her hand, the coach should have put her butt on the pine. Then the umpire should have tossed her to the parking lot for unsportsmanlike conduct. Then her parents should have beat her *** for that embarassing display.

I agree with that 100%

default · Jun 28, 2009

Wow! I hope there were college coaches waching that display and I hope there are college coaches at future games that this young lady plays in and sees that display.

I don't care how good she may play, she does not deserve scholarship money!

default · Jun 28, 2009

sad627 said:
Wow! I hope there were college coaches waching that display and I hope there are college coaches at future games that this young lady plays in and sees that display. I don't care how good she may play, she does not deserve scholarship money!

Scholarship money, yea people like that will get all the education they want at government facilitys. And you can go see them one day a week for a couple hours. We all loose a little control sometimes but if it goes to that type action, and is accepted, there are bigger problems.

default · Jun 28, 2009

Centerville FP said:
This was 16u. The umpire took time and talked to her after our coach voiced a loud objection to the behavior. The player was not ejected, nor called out. The 'coach' of this team had no problem with this behavior - remember, they had a coach ejected for verbally abusing the umpire on an infield fly call. From the behavior of the rest of the team, this type of behavior is not just acceptable to the coach and organization, but promoted...

Let's face it, when a kid or a team have a nasty attitude, so does the head coach and assistants. You can't tell me that this is the first time this team or girl have shown this lack of sportsmanship. I think when coaches or parents look the other way for small unsportsmanlike like behavior, they are just asking for trouble. Once you tolerate a little, don't be surprised when the behavior gets worse. I believe one team found that out last weekend.

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