3-2 count Two outs Bases loaded critical time basketball time out

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This happened to us yesterday. We were out in the field. Full Count, Bases loaded. two outs. The opposing coach called time out and called all the girls off the bases and out of the dugout and they all met with her at the third base coach's box.

It was kind of like a basketball time out. I have never seen anything like this in my sixteen years of coaching. It was all to freeze my pitcher. There was no reason at that time to bring the whole team together. I can understand if she wanted to talk to the batter, but she deliberately brought the whole team in. That is bush league. And why didn't the umpire stop them from doing that.

Oh by the way, our pitcher struck the batter out. What are your thoughts about this? Where is the respect to the game? Where has it gone? We try to teach our girls to respect the game and each other.

 

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That is wild, I am surprised the umpire allowed it. I have never seen anything like it. I actually never knew you could bring the girls in the dugout onto the field like that...

 

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Bush League.

I would think ok to call a timeout and talk to the runners just to make sure everyone is running on the pitch maybe BUT should not be able to talk to the whole team. Now that is bush and really showing his/her hand on what the intent of the timeout was.

Come on Respect the Game!

 

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Why didn't the umpire stop that? Because there's no rule against it! As long as the team has charged conferences remaining they can take them at any point in the game.

About the only thing the umpire could address is the length of the time out. If gathering up all those players is taking longer than the usual few seconds a normal conference takes, he could come out and cut things short and get the game going again without delay.

I have to admit, that is a strange conference, but an otherwise legal one. Glad things worked out for your team! When a team pulls these strange tactics and they backfire, it just makes their coach look goofy. Unfortunately, there's no rule about making yourself look goofy...

 

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I think many people employ different stratagies throughout the course of a game. If the coach was entitled to a offensive time-out (conference) and chose that time to use it as a stratagy to freeze your pitcher and not run out the clock then there is nothing bush league about it.

Kudos to your pitcher for not letting it get in her head.

 

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I think many people employ different stratagies throughout the course of a game. If the coach was entitled to a offensive time-out (conference) and chose that time to use it as a stratagy to freeze your pitcher and not run out the clock then there is nothing bush league about it.

Kudos to your pitcher for not letting it get in her head.

That was pretty much my take on it. If you're not using it to run out the clock and just freeze the pitcher, then I'm ok with it. It is used all of the time on the defensive side. It happened to my dd against Boardman this spring in jv ball. The pitcher, Julie Sokol (name mentioned for props sake), had owned my dd the whole game. Her 3rd at bat, my dd finally started to foul a couple off. (First two at bats were six "whiff" swings, nothing on the ball at all. But I digress, she finally hits a long foul ball down the right field line (barely foul). The coach calls time out. The whole team goes to the circle for about a minute long conference. BTW: full count. Conference breaks and Julie blows the next pitch by my kid. Strike 3!! They legally iced her successfully. What're you gonna do?

 

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Agree with Bush League. In todays world the girls need to learn respect and in my opinion this is not respect.

 

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I've never seen anything like this in my five years of playing travel ball. I, too, like to see an unrespectful coach's plans backfire. Disrespect, bad sportsmanship, bush league, whatever you want to call it, it's not how the game should be played. Now if I know that as a 13U player, a coach should have the decency to teach the game the way it should be played - good sportsmanship and respect.

 

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Not bush league at all. Where you in the conference? I will routinely call a conference either defensively or offensively when the situation arises to use it as a teaching point. You guys and all this bush league ****. What are we doing here, playing tiddly winks.

 

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Not bush league at all. Where you in the conference? I will routinely call a conference either defensively or offensively when the situation arises to use it as a teaching point. You guys and all this bush league ****. What are we doing here, playing tiddly winks.

So let me get this straight, you would call the girls off the bases, and out of the dugout and huddle at the third base coach while your team is batting. Never mind the respect for the game and the other team. I could see if it was a scrimmage where you are taking the time to make sure everyone is on the same page. But not during a championship game in the 5th inning. That is a discrace to the game. Think about it.

I could just see it now, a major league baseball game. The whole team comes out of the dugout and meets with the coach at the third base coaches box all to freeze the pitcher. Believe you me the next pitch would be at the batter's head.

 

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I know a coach or two who would try that tactic. Kudos to your pitcher for holding it together!

 

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You people who go as far as "it is a disgrace to the game" need to go play another sport. If a coach has a legal conference and feels having the runner participate in it will help his team at that moment it is none of your business and the fact that you rant on here about it shows how much of an amatuer you are. It is unusual yes but what do you care anyway. So many of you assume that everything is some slight to you. Even if he did do it to ice your pitcher he could have left the players on base and do the same thing.
If I wanted to disrupt a pitcher there are many better ways to accomplish it than that sillyness.

Would I do that - No - would I fault it - No - Would I whine about it - No

 

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Thatguy,

Please read the whole post The team was batting. The bases were loaded. We were in the field. Not only did she call the runners over to her. I understand that. She had the girls come out of the dugout to meet with her.

It was just coincidence that the count was 3-2, two outs and the bases loaded and a championship game at that.

 

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I was at this game. I was standing near the fence when time was called. The coach never called the players out of the dugout. The players never left the dugout. The coach DID call the players off the bases. This team was missing players and had picked up two players who had never played travel ball before. The coach used the time out as an instructional tool. As you said, the batter struck out and nothing was gained by the timeout. The score of the game at the time was 1 - 0 in your favor. I think the coach is entirely with her right to call time at this critical moment. You never mentioned the final score. If the outcome had been in your favor, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

 

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I don't see the problem with it either.

There was a thread just the other day about a player laying down between 1st & 2nd with a runner on 3rd to entice a throw down, legal.

And if the pitcher threw a bb at the batter's head on the next pitch, then I guess the tactic, and "war of poise" would have worked?

Using one's time outs to freeze a kicker in football bothers no one, right? Not even sure if that was the tactic though, not being there. Could have been a communication thing, or maybe it was a tactic to "ice" the pitcher.

Either way, congratulations to your pitcher for being poised and coached well enough to overcome the situation!

I probably would not employ that tactic, but I wouldn't be overly upset either, as some want to "win" more than others. That would be an "okay, ... whatever..." to me, ..... just like the laying down in the baseline to draw a throw (one second to make a choice once pitcher gets ball back in circle - better get up fast!!).

 

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I really don't see anything wrong with this either, and I am really struggling to see why it is disrespectful. Would I do it? No but I guess if I was coaching and someone did that to me, "bush" wouldn't even cross my mind.

 

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I don't see anything wrong with it . Not sure what harm it could cause.

 

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Nothing is wrong with a legal conference between coach and his players, but I see it as a dirt in face act with the entire team clearing the dugout to talk to a batter and runners. Having players out of the dugout between innings is ok but why in the active inning of the game without a fight? TESTING RULES!! A few more tests may bring about just another rule to read about non player participation. The do's and don'ts

this could fall in the Book George Tactics