Can your players go to other tryouts?

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I have encouraged my daughter to look at other teams this fall. She was very happy playing with her team last year and wants to return to the organization. She will be moving up to 12u and will be trying out for that team anyhow. We were upfront with her coach letting him know that we intended to look at some teams that were local to us. He was fine with this.

I agree with some of the comments earlier that if you are upfront with the current coach/organization and they forbid you or get angry then it might be time to find a fresh start. I also agree with the coach who expressed frustration with girls who are trying out with no real intent of joining the team or are treating it as a practice. I do not think we are wasting the other 3 teams time since we/she will give them serious consideration. However, it will take a good showing by one of the 3 organizations to sway her from the current org. This is assuming that she even has the skills to join.

Go Bucks!

 

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What if 5 of 11 players decide to go to tryouts? You don't know until after tryouts are over if you need to fill their positions or not. Do you leave them open, or fill them? This creates uncertainty for the members of the team who weren't going to try out with other teams, so they leave also. End of team.

 

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I have encouraged my daughter to look at other teams this fall. She was very happy playing with her team last year and wants to return to the organization. She will be moving up to 12u and will be trying out for that team anyhow. We were upfront with her coach letting him know that we intended to look at some teams that were local to us. He was fine with this.

I agree with some of the comments earlier that if you are upfront with the current coach/organization and they forbid you or get angry then it might be time to find a fresh start. I also agree with the coach who expressed frustration with girls who are trying out with no real intent of joining the team or are treating it as a practice. I do not think we are wasting the other 3 teams time since we/she will give them serious consideration. However, it will take a good showing by one of the 3 organizations to sway her from the current org. This is assuming that she even has the skills to join.

Go Bucks!

As long as you were giving the other teams serious consideration, I would have no problem with your dd showing up at tryouts. However, if you had no intention of ever leaving your current team, I wouldn't want your daughter at tryouts. It takes time away from other players that are actually trying out. Give the organization some respect in not wasting their time. You can see how your daughter stacks up in the tournament season. But, if you are considering leaving, have at it.

 

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My daughter wants to stay with the same org, we had tryouts last weekend and are now just waiting on a call as we had to move up. If we don't hear before this weekend we will be attending other tryouts if we do get a call we won't be attending any others.

 

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It depends on the coach . Trust goes both ways.

I can't argue that. Sometimes we don't see the truthfulness of a person until it is too late.

 

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Check out all options!!! You might find a better fit for your dd. Maybe her level of play has exceded current team. If you don't try you will never know what her posibilites are. Coaches who want to prevent their players for trying out for other teams aren't concerned about your daughter, only themselves and their ego's. Explore!!!

 

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Kids should tryout for whoever they want. The sport is for the kids right! Tryout, tryout and tryout some more. I have and will always tell my players to tryout for whoever they want!

 

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You should be able to go to any try out you wish you are paying the org. not the other way around. If you have kids show up at try outs grade them and offer a spot if they dont take it go down the line. No big deal, sometimes having a couple better players show up can be good for your try out.

 

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If you have players that have already committed for next year to your team then I say no. They are wasting the time of the people running the tryouts and also taking time away from the other girls there to actually try-out.

Now if you have already committed to a team and you want to come to a try-out just for new drills and the practice, then let the coaches know when you get there so that they can charge you the coaching fee.

:lmao::lmao:Agreed!

 

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Interesting reading... thanks for starting it Klump.

I went to all my players that started the season two weeks ago and told them that I would like to have everyone of them (10) back for next year. I asked them to give me an answer before Aug 7th and everyone accepted. Had any not accepted I would not have been upset, I would have just proceeded to look for a better player at tryouts.

My parents all told me they appreciated that their DD's were not 'hanging' out waiting - I appreciate knowing our team will only improve going into their second year of 12u. And the girls can't wait to start practice for 2011 later on today! LOL .. actually just a little hitting training tonight for those that can make it.

We have 2 spots to fill yet -if the right player and parents come along. Last season we sat at 10 thru June.. I hope to add 1 this year.

I was talking to a parent last night and he told me that their coach had told all his players that he will make offers around the end of August after tryouts conclude and that he encouraged all his players to go tryout during August.

I don't really understand that - I know there is not much loyalty in FP - everyone is a volunteer but really? If you have good players and families on the team, why would you not secure them before tryouts if they wanted to stay and you wanted them. That sends a message that the coach is going to see if he can find a better player than you but if not he will be back to offer. I take it as a challenge to train my kids, with their hard work, I personally find it much more rewards to build a team that has success than recruit one every season.

We have kept our team together and improved our girls for the past 3 years - always moving forward in their skills and training - the last thing I want to do is start with a bunch of new players every year - even talented ones - teaching them the game, Carriers hitting methods and the like. I have seen many 14-16u kids come in our org that have played with 3-4 orgs/coaches every year. Each one has changed their swing or re-positioned them for the team. I hope to engrain our kids with the training we get from Howard, Hartwig and all the instructors we bring in to show us how to teach the kids. That produces a more fundamentally sound and successful team in the long run.

My last comment is that if a player wants to go to some tryouts please do .. but not if you are committed to your original team - as said above - don't waste the coaches time at the tryout at the expense of another player.

Doug---I agree 100% with your philosophy on this and how you handled your returning girls. I know first hand try-outs are very stressful on DD, but unfortunately in this game you have to go and see whats out there until the offers come in.

 

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What if 5 of 11 players decide to go to tryouts? You don't know until after tryouts are over if you need to fill their positions or not. Do you leave them open, or fill them? This creates uncertainty for the members of the team who weren't going to try out with other teams, so they leave also. End of team.

Your team should hold tryouts to fill those 5 spots since they didn't commit to return. Inform the 5 players whether or not they have to attend the tryout to be considered. Afterward, offer the spots to the players you want - whether they be new and/or previous ones.

 

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I think all athletes should be able to attend other tryouts if that is what they are interested in. There should be no fear of backlash. If there is fear then I would question if that coach is who we want and need for DD. It should be about these young ladies not the coach's ego! Sometimes players "outgrow" their team and some players stay with the same team for years.

 

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I read all the post and I agree and disagree with opinions.

I would not care if my players went to other tryouts and I certainly would hold that against them by not taking them or lossing a position they want. I feel confident enough that they would stay and if they don't I wouldn't want an unhappy player on our team because that can be contagious.

But, if you know you are going to be on a team this year; why go to other tryouts and give the other team false hopes and taking up their time. The team you are "just checking" out may have passed someone else up becasue they think your in. Wonder how may coaches have palyers do that??? (have players go to try outs to see what is going on) I wouldn't be surprised with some of them out there.

Here is an question for coaches. You have two tryouts (two weekends). Do you generally pick a good portion if not all of your team (how many players you need) the first weeknd? Do you do this for the reason is if you tell a player (a good one) you will let them know next week and they go to another tryout and they (other team) may take her on the spot and now you lost a good player.

 

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In our situation we have 8 players that want to return and 4 are eligible to play 16u and 4 are 18u eligible i approached the 16u and make sure this is there choice to play up a year this has been there option every year and our core kids always commit to me early which give me the oppertunity to hand pick the final 3. Seems to work for us when you get a good group of girls and parents you take care of them so they look forward to coming back next year.
To the organizations that make you sign contracts and all that junk get a glue it's softball.

 

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I find it interesting that parents / players want commitment from their current team while they go out looking for options but they resent the current coach/organization wanting the same commitment from them.

Agreed, if you are going to tryouts without the possibility of playing for that team, you are either wasting that organizations time, or kidding yourself about not playing for them if they want you.

 

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I find this question as very simple. If you played on a team the previous year are you happy? If you are happy and extended and offer accept and do not attend other try-outs. If you accept and attend other try-outs you take away from the time and efforts of other girls and the coaches doing evaluations. This is unfair to the girls trying out, coaches evaluating and other parents who are already nervous about their daughter making a team.

If you are unhappy with your current team do not accept the offer and attend as many try-outs as you can or wish. Evaluate your options and accept what best fits your daughter and your family.

As a coach if an offer is extended a breif "acceptance time" clearly defined up front (one day, three days, etc) should be stated. If the offer is not accepted in that time frame then the offer is no longer vaild. An example - a good team has one position with multiple try-outs. If at the first try-out they extend an offer the girl may have 48 hours to decide. If the family does not accpet then the position remains open. This allows girls who may call about the position or attend the following try-outs to have a legitimate opportunity for that position (this is summer and maybe they could not make the first tru-out because of vacation, etc.). If a week later the girl who was offered and did not accept in the time frame checks back and the position is still open it can be reoffered. If it has been filled then all can move on. This is fair to all involved.

So in essence if you are happy and extended an offer to stay accept and get ready for the next season. If not attend all the try-outs you see fit.

 

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My daughters previous coach didn't offer spots to any of his players. But invited them to the tryouts and told them they where "on the bubble" And he recommended the girls go to other tryouts and thats what we did and I know 3 out of his players have been offered spots with other teams and gladly accepted. Sometimes thinking your waiting for the next best player can hurt a team in the long run. ;&

 

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It seems like it is the same people that gripe about -daddy ball , coach mad about dd going to other try-outs , dd shouldn't have a curfew.
It's probably mommy and daddy goggles

 

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I think players should tryout for other org. First it is a one year contract, the player is not garanteed a position forever! The coach gets to evaluate the player with what he sees on the field atheletic ability, intensity, personality, etc...And there is no garantee that the coach, will always be coaching.

2nd A player and a parent have 2-4 hours with a coach to decide if they are the right fit for there daughter. If you go to other tryouts you get to know some other coaches and get a feel for what they know and the way they do things.

3rd we have had 3 coaches come and ask us if we would come to there tryouts and we told them we are staying with our coach and they said so come anyways.

Last year we went to one tryout and the coach for a top org turned around and said if they aren't throwing xx we aren't even looking at them (umm did I just waste my time). Well I want to see what he thinks now. And how she stacks up this year!

 

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Klump's original question: Can your players go to other tryouts?

Like so many other questions posed here, this depends on each situation. If the player/family feel the need to explore other teams thru tryouts, they sure shouldn't be making a commitment to their old team before doing so. If no commitment has been made, the old team should be considering players that can fill that role. Making the commitment, then going to tryouts & jumping ship is bad business.

We have several returning players each year with the majority together since 11U. The key is communication. We aren't just coaching for a season. We're forming relationships with families that are allowing us to play key roles in their daughter's development.