DD Made her first tough decision last night

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Uber, no brainer that would be a yes, made that decision right after last years game, halfback last year, wide receiver this year... Said one of the best things she has done in her H.S. years was the Powder Puff game... A great event for all of the student body, the guy cheerleaders were hilarious..... Also she didn't quit, just made an executive decision on what she wanted to do...

Musty--- Believe it or not she is friend with the Superintendant and has his direct line in her phone if she decides to go that route

Not home yet, or no call, so she must have not had an issue today....

She should go that route. I would with the angle that a coach, any coach shouldn't be telling kids what to do outside that sport, school conduct rules already cover the necessary rules and if Powder Puff games were so dangerous why is the school allowing them?

 

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Got home and she said he gave her the silent treatment and thanked two others who didn't play and told them others will have consiquences (don't think so as again, as he has no say) If football players could cheer and be thrown in the air, cheerleaders play in the game and others as well then what's his big deal?? Only Girls VB and ****** were a no....

To be cont'd I'm sure. He'll probably think he'll run her behind the bench during the next game, but she said "I am not taking any punishment as I've done nothing wrong. What if I was playing Fall softball, can he control that?" Again nope he can't....

 

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Good for you Hilliarddad and good for your daughter! :yahoo: My daughter is a freshman and played pp, won mvp quarterback and had a blast! all those years of playing football with the boys in grade school instead of playing hopscotch payed off

 

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HilliardDad - I'm proud of your dd, and a hearty congrats on a job well done as a parent. I hope our dd continues to grow that way too.

 

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Has anyone stopped to consider what the reporters at the Dispatch might want? After all, they and their chosen "experts" know better than parents what is best for kids.

I agree that hs coaches have no business telling kids what they can and can't do outside of practices and games. But then, why do we allow the OHSAA to do just that when it mandates no travel ball during the hs season? If it's not ethical for coaches to control kids outside of practices and games, then it's similarly not ethical for the OHSAA. And how can we blame the hs coaches when they are merely taking their cue from the self-annointed moralists at the OHSAA?

 

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Has anyone stopped to consider what the reporters at the Dispatch might want? After all, they and their chosen "experts" know better than parents what is best for kids.

I agree that hs coaches have no business telling kids what they can and can't do outside of practices and games. But then, why do we allow the OHSAA to do just that when it mandates no travel ball during the hs season? If it's not ethical for coaches to control kids outside of practices and games, then it's similarly not ethical for the OHSAA. And how can we blame the hs coaches when they are merely taking their cue from the self-annointed moralists at the OHSAA?

And the revolution begins !!!! I've been waiting on a good revolution for over 10 years now.

 

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Joe,
That is a very good point!


The question is what schools would have the gnads to be the first to drop out of OHSAA and create their own sanctioning rules? What truly does the OHSAA pay for? This I really don't know.. Schools pay the umps correct? Schools pay for the buses, Boosters pay for the patches for the jackets. OHSAA pays for what a few 20 dollar trophies and travelling monies to the state Championships of a few hundred dollars per team? What else?

Now with that said, they do have some basic rules that I do like such as "hands off coach" time, as it would end up like Texas Football of them owning your kid, or your kid doesn't play

Anyone can create a season schedule to play if they really wanted to. An umpire scheduler can be created where they sign up for games they want electronically, as I know since my son created it for our rec league. I am sure there is other things I'm not thinking of....

 

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Interestingly enough, CBS Morning Show is going to do a story on the safety of the big white heavy S%c$$r goals. Harry mentioned that not only are kids being hurt but at least one player has been fatally injured when one improperly installed goal fell on the player. Makes one wonder if the imposter coach mentioned here does a safety check of field equipment to make sure the players won't be injured while under his watch. You know, similar to performing a FOD walk on the infield of a crappy practice field to remove rocks, broken glass and bottle caps.

 

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Sparrow really? Holy cow thats horrible! I remember them lifting and carrying the goals in Middle school and the old high school. The girls, not coaches, at least the new school has wheels that pop out with a lever and they just roll.

 

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DD plays JV volleyball right now. They had a fundraiser this past Sat however dd was playing her FIRST sport in the Midwest Signature Showcase and told her coach she wouldn't be there. His response "Oh really? Well that just figures". Soooo it will be interesting to see if she plays tonight.

Hilliard Dad, You're dd did the right thing. dd's need to enjoy their high school experiences and not worry about what selfish coaches have to say.

 

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And the revolution begins !!!! I've been waiting on a good revolution for over 10 years now.

10 years?............. and here I thought you were around for the big one in 1776
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Tim

 

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OK, I am going to play devils advocate for a minute.

Lets say your boss sends you to Vegas for a huge meeting with a customer on some new business. Because you are in Vegas the night before the meeting you party all night long, gamble, drink too much, etc... The next day at the meeting you are clearly not at your best, your sick, hung over etc... As a result, the customer chooses another vendor, your company starts laying off people, etc, etc...

Could the same views apply, "no one can tell me when I am not working!". "I have never been to Vegas and I am going to live it up".

My only point is - Aren't these rules teaching our kids that many times our responsibilities to others trump what you want to do and sacrifice is required. When my youth baseball coaches said no swimming on game days, do you think it was because they were anti-swimming or didn't want the kids to have fun. No, its because they were trying to teach us that sometimes we have to sacrifice for the success of the team.

Life is full of choices. There is not a person who wouldn't perfer to do whatever you want, whenever you want with no regard for anyone but yourself. The coach sounds like he has his own issues and those should certainly be addressed, but in my opinion the life lessons that sports teaches (being responsible for the success/failure of others is a big one) goes above and beyond a bad coach.

Probably not the popular view but a view none the less.

 

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BTW, just so everyone doesn't think that I am being critical of Hilliarddad or implying a hollier than thou attitude. My dd made a decision last year to miss a practice the night before a MS bball game to go to her cousins bday party. Not only did she miss practice but she elected to leave school early under an implied sickness so she wouldn't have to sit out the first quarter of the game (which was the coaches rule).

I was against the approach but she (and my wife) decided that was how it would go. Well the coach found out because she told someone what was going on. She felt so bad and so guilty, she was up all night - I WAS THRILLED... The next day, she walked in, up to the coach apologized, and asked if she could apologize to the team for letting them down. The coach sat her for the first two quarters that game and then it all went away.

But I couldn't have been more pleased with how the whole situation took shape. She learned a great lesson that day and hopefully she will be a better person for it.

 

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OK, I am going to play devils advocate for a minute.

Lets say your boss sends you to Vegas for a huge meeting with a customer on some new business. Because you are in Vegas the night before the meeting you party all night long, gamble, drink too much, etc... The next day at the meeting you are clearly not at your best, your sick, hung over etc... As a result, the customer chooses another vendor, your company starts laying off people, etc, etc...

Could the same views apply, "no one can tell me when I am not working!". "I have never been to Vegas and I am going to live it up".

My only point is - Aren't these rules teaching our kids that many times our responsibilities to others trump what you want to do and sacrifice is required. When my youth baseball coaches said no swimming on game days, do you think it was because they were anti-swimming or didn't want the kids to have fun. No, its because they were trying to teach us that sometimes we have to sacrifice for the success of the team.

Life is full of choices. There is not a person who wouldn't perfer to do whatever you want, whenever you want with no regard for anyone but yourself. The coach sounds like he has his own issues and those should certainly be addressed, but in my opinion the life lessons that sports teaches (being responsible for the success/failure of others is a big one) goes above and beyond a bad coach.

Probably not the popular view but a view none the less.

I can understand this viewpoint. I understand you can get hurt walking down the sidewalk, but playing powderpuff is like instead of walking down the sidewalk you walk down the middle of the road. It is definitely increasing your chances at getting hurt. Our schools volleyball team is state ranked and undefeated in league play. Non of the volleyball players played in the powder puff game because they did not want to take the chance of ruining the season. I do not know if it was coach chosen or player chosen. Three years ago the girls basketball was good enough to make a run to state. The girls asked the coach if they could be play (it was a game in the second week of October and conditionings were getting ready to start). He said it was their choice, but try to be careful. Some played and some did not. Each situation could be different and I would understand a coach telling his team not too. I would probably leave it up to the team to decide, but I could understand.

 

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Way too much of that kind of coaching going around!!

Unfortunately, this is true.

If you've got a decent high school coach -- one that knows the game and is in it to serve the girls and not his own ego -- you are extremely fortunate.

In my experience, many, many HS coaches do not fit that description.

 

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Mike,
Your'e just here to beat me up we all know it... (LOL)


Difference is your boss sent you on work monies, apples and oranges here. You go for work, you need to be professional even on the supposed off work hours, it's your career, food on the table mentality, make a good choice.


This is something that if he told the girls at tryouts this was off limits, maybe then maybe a different story as the girls would have a choice then. Even at that scenario is B.S. for an entire student body function. Not an hour before the game when he stated he would get back to her and never did and single her out in front of the rest of the ladies. Team captains had no issue with it and now 9 of them say they are playing next year....

 

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Wow...sounds so familiar. Hoping our reasons for switching schools doesn't come back to bite our daughter in the #$%. I don't think it will. It wasn't the main reason, but good, old coach kind of put the last straw in the camel's back. Good for your daughter and for standing up for herself. I love it when they have that strength and maturity.