Do young atheletes need genes or atheletics?

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I found this interesting and factory rat and I have shared some information on books and articles.

This was passed on to me by Funsister.

I hope you enjoy....

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ce-or-genetics-a-conversation-with-peter-vint

 

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Good article, thanks for sharing.

 

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great article. It is hard to argue that genetics do not have a big part in who we are. Practice will help us master a skill. Also a huge part of who we are is due to the enviroment and culture.

Don Slought told me there is a big push and much research on LTAD (long term athlete development). Much is based off Canada's sports for life program. The way Don explained it is there are a few windows where the best athletes are developed. If kids hit these developmental windows they become rockets. If they miss a window or all the windows they will wind up jets, planes or diesels.

Here is the best link I have found but there is allot of information out there on it. http://www.brianmac.co.uk/ltad.htm

 

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Here's an interview of Matthew Syed, he penned Bounce: How Champions are Made.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/lifematters/stories/2010/2887227.htm

 

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The Talent Code echoes a lot of what was said in the radio broadcast.

Last week Cindy Bristow stopped by and we were talking about the Talent Code and she has meet the author and had a lot of insight into what he had to say.

I started working with her nephew and she wanted to see what we were doing and how we are teaching. We were going over the matrix drill and how we broke the drill down to small precise movements to allow the myelin to develop to improve the movements in the body and make the movements correct. She liked that we started over every time he did not get it correct. As I explained we did not care if he made a mistake as long as it did not hurt him or someone else.We worked on using the mirrors as we instruct so we could see it and feel it while we teach it.

While doing the training we want the athlete to anticipate what the movement should feel like and this lead to a conversation about Laura Berg and tracking the ball. I showed her some posters from back in about 1996 which shows Berggie not tracking the ball as well as the other three in the poster.

We went over some vision training drills and how we break it down and why we teach tracking in everything we do and it starts with tee work. Then I explained using the strobe light to show the effects of how giving the head a head start helps in tracking.

She got it and said this is just like The Talent Code points outs as far as breaking down the activity to the smallest details and then performing the drill or activity in slow motion.

Now how do we get them to practice

 

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Now how do we get them to practice

We cant, they have to want it, need it. Like the old man used to say you can lead a horse to wated but cant make it drink.

 

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Now how do we get them to practice

That's the one predisposed attribute that I would take over all...the young athlete that hungers for knowledge. My cousins boy(12 yr. old) played in a basketball tourney this weekend and played 6 games in 2 abbreviated days. His boy was up at 8am yesterday asking his dad to take him to the gym so he could practice free throws. You put that, together quality instruction, and I like your chances of producing that 'elite' athlete.

 

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We cant, they have to want it, need it. Like the old man used to say you can lead a horse to wated but cant make it drink.

Is it bad if an athlete has a parent to push them. A lot of great athletes have had parents pushing them to excell. I remember a certain team who had a coach that stated his team was made up of girls who had parents that themselves played @ the collegiate level or who where driven to succeed in other aspects of their lives. The parents actually pushed their children to succeed.

 

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Is it bad if an athlete has a parent to push them. A lot of great athletes have had parents pushing them to excell. I remember a certain team who had a coach that stated his team was made up of girls who had parents that themselves played @ the collegiate level or who where driven to succeed in other aspects of their lives. The parents actually pushed their children to succeed.

My point is you have to guide, and give them a place to play. You cant make them hungry, or make them want it.

 

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My point is you have to guide, and give them a place to play. You cant make them hungry, or make them want it..

No you can't.. There are big things such as Triggers and Cues ( talked about in The Talent Code) that will ignite an athlete, musician, writer into the obsession it takes to become elite. Find the way to bring those triggers and cues out and you may just produce a Hotbed.... or be listed in the best coaches category...hehe

 

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This may be a little crude but I have never heard it explained better than what my best friends college football coach told him, "Perserverance kicks everythings butt!"

 

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My point is you have to guide, and give them a place to play. You cant make them hungry, or make them want it..

No you can't.. There are big things such as Triggers and Cues ( talked about in The Talent Code) that will ignite an athlete, musician, writer into the obsession it takes to become elite. Find the way to bring those triggers and cues out and you may just produce a Hotbed.... or be listed in the best coaches category...hehe

Sure you can make them hungry and want it. Teaching a player proper skills and techniques can make them hunger and desire to be successful. Ever teach a girl a softball skill and see them successfully execute what you taught them in a game? Once successful most will want to be even more successful hence wanting it more.

 

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three rules of high velocity learning
http://thetalentcode.com/2010/02/03/3-rules-of-high-velocity-learning/

 

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Genetics doesn't hurt and at times there is name recognition that goes with that. Athletic ability and the athlete's want to have a great deal to do with it also.

 

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Thank you, Howard for posting the article! This is a nice follow up to our conversation a couple weeks ago on this subject....

 

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I love this topic because it is always so interesting.

There is only one thing I know for sure. I have known 5 girls that went on to play D1 softball.

#1 - pitcher who started since 9th on HS team. Very hard worker, decent athlete

#2 - extremely fast and athletic, lazy, was a pinch runner at MSU for 4 years

#3 - pitcher, was told after 10 grade (JV player)she would not make the varsity as a pitcher, worked her butt off and was ALL-State the next year with a fully ride

#4 - best female athlete I ever say, hard worker, was All- American at MSU, and female athlete of the year her senior year at MSU (1999 or 2000)

#5 - pitcher (my favorite) was moved up to varsity mid way through 10th grade, was a decent athlete but a very hard worker. Upon graduating she walked on at tOSU and was cut. Asked to be the trainer or team manager. Mid way through Spring ball tOSU had a bunch of pitchers injuried. They asked her to suit up and she pitched in a bunch of non-league games. Ended up being a letter winner in softball at tOSU.

I will say this. 4 out of 5 were very driven and hard workers. One I think was not that driven but she was very fast and I am not sure she ever received much $$ to play.

So I think Drive is the single most important factor. A bigger reason for that IMO is that the ones who are driven will keep compounding the 1% increase in skill till they pass up the superior athletes. I tell my daughters all the time that you can make up for a lack of speed be paying attention and getting a better jump on the ball. Read the pitch, the batters swing...ect. This little things will add up to make a player better.

 

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A popular example is children of professional athletes also making it to the professional ranks. Take Nick Swisher, who played baseball for OSU and graduated (eventually) to the Yankees. His dad, Steve, was catcher for, among others, the Chicago Cubs.

IMO, there are several things at play here:
1. Inheriting superior athletic qualities (genetics)
2. "Inside" knowledge of knowing what it takes (keen understanding of work ethic)
3. "Inside" knowledge of "knowing the right people" (social networking)
4. Name recognition - which is tied to #3

Without a doubt, his athletic ability got Nick to where he is today. He had to work just as hard, if not harder, than any baseball player to get where he is today. Without a doubt, having dad as a guiding factor absolutely gave him a leg-up and opened doors, because dad had "been there - done that".

 

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Genetics doesn't hurt and at times there is name recognition that goes with that. Athletic ability and the athlete's want to have a great deal to do with it also.

Sometimes I think the genetic advantage is that Mom or Dad being successful athletes means they understand how to work to acheive success.

 

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Both are great and help tremendously. Personally I like drive , determination and grit! Without hoping to not sound too bad , Just that over all desire to win .
I think that all kids have the potential ! But true athletes are hard to come by ,so when you see them ,they just automatically stick out.

 

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