Down Fall of a Team, Everyone the Blame!

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I found this post on Facebook and wanted to share it with Coaches, Parents and players seem like everyone played a role in this team downfall.

I coached softball for 13yrs. My latest endeavor was coaching HS/18u. Our team was the North Georgia Velocity. Some of Yall are sure to know us and know me.
So here's my story, my daughter started playing like most daughters and I started coaching soon after. We started at the rec level and moved to travel ball. I enjoyed the game so much. I would rather spend time at a ballfield than on vacation somewhere. It became 2nd nature to me to get up early on Saturdays to be somewhere for our 1st game..

Then my daughter grew and became an adult. She turned 18 and softball was an after thought. She graduated High School and hung her cleats up. She has went to work and hopefully to college this fall. Shes busy being an "ADULT" now Lol. I missed her on the field this spring.. She was maybe my true love of the game.. Although I sure didn't treat her to daddy ball. She sat on the bench as much as anyone else.. She knew she wasnt getting special treatment..
Anyways back to my story. This season started off pretty good.. We lost some girls last year,my daughter included,but we picked up some really talented kids.. We finished 3rd in our 1st tourney of the year,then 2nd in the next one.. Things looked good from the get go. We won tons of games. At times we slaughtered teams 18-4,15-0,12-1 and so on. We played in several bigger tourneys and held our own. We weren't one of these $2,500 a year teams.. We were cheap so people could afford it and that's the way I wanted it.. We actually anted up at each tourney to pay the fees. Kinda made it better on me.. Like I said we won alot.. And im proud of that. Somewhere along the way I kinda got to were winning was the only answer.. It was like a sickness. It was expected by all. So I was the coach that would pick up a beast pitcher and not use my roster pitchers as much.. Im to blame for that.. When I realized what I had done,I tried to correct it. That's not who I am.. I am better than that.. Ive always wanted to be fair ,but compassionate.

Finally the wheels started falling off. I would have girls telling me where they should bat and where they should play,but the worst thing was, they were telling me where someone else should bat or play. If these specific girls would see me doing a lineup they would rush to look and roll their eyes if it wasn't what they wanted. This attitude carried into the stands. Parents started acting this way too. They would down a kid for messing up because they wanted their kid to play there. They became like a cancer that spread across the field. I had several girls and parents that had no part in this,but there is about 4 that will be looking for a new team that will be a cancer to someone else.

It'll be nice at 1st and then they become the boss. Then the drama will start. Its so upsetting because we had a heck of a team as far as talent. But underneath the foundation was crumbling. We won our tourney Saturday,10 teams. We were the number 1 seed in the Gold Bracket. Scored 50 runs and were awesome. We had a slip up in the championship and then played a shootout to win the tourney.. After walking out the gates I knew I was done. I didn't have to take the BS they were dishing. I didn't have to be a doorstep. Never did I get paid to do this.I actually paid thousands of dollars to coach. People wouldn't pay their $20 at a $200 tourney and old coach was left to pay the remainder. I have paid $150 of a $210 tourney. Parents would say I aint got it this week,but they'd go to Zaxbys for dinner and run allover the concession stands. Complete disrespect for me and my financial situation. Its only $20 ,if you didn't have it, im more than willing to help,but being taken advantage of got old. I had enough..
I had been there done that and even won the T-shirt. We are no longer a team as of Saturday. All I can hope is someone reads my story and learns from it. If you have a cancer on your team get rid of it before it consumes you. It will destroy the fabric of your team. Ive learned a valuable lesson. Girls if Yall read this,your coach is that,a coach, not your employee.. Hes there for you,but you work for him. He would do anything in the world for and he would fight for you. Treat him like that . thx and see Yall around a ballfield.... Ill still go.. Love the game too much not to.
 

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I see a lot of me in this story. The glue to keep a coach like this one fighting was his daughter. Without her involvement it makes it easier to tell parents you're done and walk. It doesn't make him any less a man or coach but by his own admittance he made mistakes that probably contributed to the demise of this team. The attitude of "Win at all cost" has doomed many teams. You can't turn your back on your selected roster and bring in new guns for the sake of a winning record and expect your roster to still respect you. You make the game and winning bigger than the experience of team chemistry and loyalty. As a coach, you are crossing a line to make the experience out to be about you, not the girls. I wish the coach would have conducted a team meeting and confessed his mistakes and addressed the families about his lesson learned. Maybe before it spun out of control he could have salvaged the team and at least finished his commitment to them for the season. Some of these girls will indeed make other rosters immediately but some may never play travel ball again. Damage can be irreparable and that can haunt people forever. I know they do things different in Ga. but coaching is more than the wins and losses. It's a dedication to teach the life lessons that are associated in the sport and in the experience. Walking away will make him feel better for a short time, then the feeling of guilt will creep into his heart and mind.

He should have come to this forum and asked for advice before he walked away. Another mistake made.........
 

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daboss, I agree with you 100%. I've been in his position myself when I was Coaching but that happen early in my Coaching career it didn't take me long to seek advice from well known Coaches that had decades of Coaching experience to help me get back on track.

Coaching your own daughter is the glue that will help some Coaches stay on track. Once that's gone it difficult for some to continue when they run into major road blocks.

I have nothing but respect for Coaches that continue Coaching once there DD career are over.
 

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I too can see some of myself in this. While I never brought in stud players to help win, there were times when I took winning to seriously no doubt. And once my daughter was done playing and we coached a few years together (which I mistakenly thought would be easier,) we couldn't deal with the parents any more and we walked away from a team where we were assistant coaching. Don't get me wrong ... I still place most of the blame on some parents, but I was not without blame for sure.
 

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Wow, this sounds so familiar, you do so much for players and their parents and all it does is backfire, there are probably a lot more stories out there just like this, I have seen it happen first hand over and over. Just so sad to watch this unfold season after season.
 

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As soon as a coach brings in subs to play over his/her own players, it's over. That bell can never be unrung, and that damage can never be undone.
 

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As soon as a coach brings in subs to play over his/her own players, it's over. That bell can never be unrung, and that damage can never be undone.

I'm not a coach but my dd has subbed for 2 teams and both fell apart at the end of the year. I'm sure they were well on their way to that before we got there but I'm also sure we had something to do with it. On both occasions I told the coaches she would play only if they had 10 or less players. They both assured me that was their situation and both lied. One had 11 the other 12. We've decided not to play as subs any longer.
 

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I'm not a coach but my dd has subbed for 2 teams and both fell apart at the end of the year. I'm sure they were well on their way to that before we got there but I'm also sure we had something to do with it. On both occasions I told the coaches she would play only if they had 10 or less players. They both assured me that was their situation and both lied. One had 11 the other 12. We've decided not to play as subs any longer.

In your case you just found the wrong Coaches or Team to sub for. Most Coaches won't inflate their roster with extra players. It's almost a guaranteed way for a team to fail and disband.

I'm sure just by looking at the amount of players willing to sub and teams needed sub that in most cases it work out for everyone.
 

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Agree about it being a mistake for coaches to "inflate" a roster from what they promise people ... now whether it's realistic for a coach to even promise that they will carry 10 or God forbid less than 10 players is another question ... what if someone gets sick, injured, quits or goes on vacation?! I know, this is a whole nother thread ... I know it's been done but the coach/team just got lucky ...
 

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Agree about it being a mistake for coaches to "inflate" a roster from what they promise people ... now whether it's realistic for a coach to even promise that they will carry 10 or God forbid less than 10 players is another question ... what if someone gets sick, injured, quits or goes on vacation?! I know, this is a whole nother thread ... I know it's been done but the coach/team just got lucky ...

Yes, they insinuated players were hurt and roster qty's dropped. All in all, I believe they brought her on to prove a point to players and parents. Kind of a "you are replaceable" statement. Terrible to put a young girl in that position.
 

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These types of threads are popping up more and more. The common thread? Communication. Hindsight is 20/20. I think many times problems fester when they could be addressed early and often. What I find is problems start small and they explode when they don't have too. Conflict is a part of life and dealing with it is a critical skill set everyone needs from the delusional parent to the arrogant coach. This sport is so competitive and everyone wants what's best for the kids, sometimes agendas, whether good intentions or ill fated ones, can be corrected when cooler heads prevail. Emotions quickly escalate to desperation and lead to many of these stories.
 

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