Hitting and Hitters Discussion Help need help with hitting the ball 9yr

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Hello, My daughter is 9yrs old. First year on fast pitch softball
team. Is there any advise or tips to hit the ball. She hits sometime at practice,but at games she gets swang out.
coach told me to get a t-ball she hits the ball on it,but she gets pitch she can't hit it. Coach says she has a strong swing.
any help on how to hold the bat and something about the elbow. any help or advise. Mom knows nothing about softball
thanks :)
 
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Find a qualified professional in your area -- you get what you pay for. Of course, if you wait for free hitting techniques on this Web site....
 
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If your coach isn't able to help, you need to look somewhere else. Maybe look to an older age group coach and ask him or her if they would look at your daughters swing.
 
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Mom 101I would have to agree with your daughters coach, lots of quality swings off of a tee. ?Make sure after each swing that her focus is on the hole in the tee after hitting the ball. ?This will teach her to keep her head down on the contact point and stays there after her swing. ?She has to see the ball to hit it.Numerous repetitions will build muscle memory, so make sure her form is good. ?They must be quality swings. ?I like to teach rotational hitting where you squish the bug with your back foot and make sure you get hip rotation where your belly button is facing the pitcher after your swing but your head stays down at the contact point. ?Weight must be balanced on both feet with the body slightly leaning into the pitch, stay off the heals.I also tell my girls that their body rotates around their head. ?Chin starts on the front shoulder, body rotates around head and chin finishes on back shoulder. Hand and eye coordination is another key. ?As her swing becomes more natural and her head is staying down on the contact point, try having her hit little plastic golf balls or pop caps (from a soft toss position) to help with hand, eye coordination.To become a better hitter will take time and lots of repetitions. ?Try to work on it 15-20 minutes every day and stop when form starts to go away or they get frustrated. ?Nothing can be accomplished after that point.Finally, I personally wouldn't spend alot of money at 9 years old on a hitting instructor before working at home with her. ?There are plenty of resources out there you could use as well as books and videos. ?Make yourself more knowledgeable about hitting because your daughter will hit with you more than she will ever hit with her hitting coach.Just my honest opinion and good luck playing this year. Coach Yeater
 
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1 tip i can give you about hitting off a tee for my girls i have a tee with a string tied onto the ball and the tee so you can keep putting it back on the tee instead of chasing it all over.Another good tip is keep your front foot slightly turned in because most kids want to step out and this forces you to step into the ball. ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
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"Squish the bug" and "leaning into the pitch" are not hallmarks of a proper rotational swing.

"Squish the bug" may work as a cue to get some hip rotation into the swing, but it is a cue that is largely misinterpreted.

In a proper rotational swing, the back foot will come up on the toe and perhaps even leave the ground. But it is not "squishing down". Rather, it is coming up as a reaction to the forces generated in the rotational swing.

If you are pushing down with the back foot and "squishing down" to initiate hip turn, you are leaving a lot of torque on the table and not getting full benefit of the power of rotation. In fact, this is referred to as "reverse pivot" and it is detrimental to generating maximum torque.

The rotation should start with the front side pulling the hips, not the rear pushing them. As the power of your rotation goes forward (around a stationary axis), the front leg stiffens and resists this forward torque.

The back foot coming up on the toe is not the cause of the hip rotation, but rather an effect generated by the the front side pulling the hips through.

The body tilt of a good rotational swing should be slightly back, not forward. Watching video of elite hitters, be they major leaguers or college softball players, will verify this posture in the rotational swing.

Mom101, as a first year player, your nine year old is trying to master one of the most difficult tasks in sports- hitting a moving ball with a bat. Add in the excitement of the game, the nervousness of performing in front of family and friends, and the newness of this difficult skill and many beginning players find hitting in games much tougher than hitting in practice.

At this young age, I would not try to be too technical with my instruction. Keep it simple and try to give her a good foundation with a few fundamentals that are common to a good swing.

Do a web search (Google) for "rotational swing" or "hitting mechanics" and you will find many, many sites dedicated to batting techniques.

One of the most basic videos on rotational hitting, using easy to understand terms and geared toward beginning players, is "Beginners through Little League: Explosive Rotatioal Hitting". Here's a link:

http://www.sportstechnique.com/

On the most basic level, start in a balanced stance. Before swinging forward, a slight loading should be achieved by pulling the hands back toward the catcher. Minimize the stride into the ball with the front foot. The front foot may not even stride forward at all. It can be moved slightly or picked up a bit and put down to initiate the hip rotation.

Keeping the hands back, turn hard with the hips so that the belly button is facing toward the pitcher. Then, bring the hands around, meeting the ball with hands in a "nuetral" position (bottom/front hand palm down, top/back hand palm up).

The hands should follow a tight circular path. Slight bend in the front elbow is acceptable. The back elbow can have a bit more bend and may even come in close to the rib cage.

Follow through after making contact, bringing the bat around the front side of the body. If the wrists are rolled over, it should be after contact with the ball.

The plane of the swing should match the plane of the pitch (the angle relative to the ground).

Practice, practice and practice some more! Use the batting tee, face live pitching and go to the batting cages, all the while concentrating on the fundamental aspects of the swing. Try to make sure that the live pitching in practice is close to the same speeds that your daughter will see in her games.

Seeing many pitches and taking many practice swings, while using correct fundamentals, is the best way to acustom young players to the art of hitting.

Best of luck with your first year in fastpitch!
 
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Bretman, for the most part I agree with all of your advice. Though I must question your opinion on "squash the bug". To be able to maximize your full potential in hitting, you must have balance in your stance, balance in your swing and balance in your follow through. If your back foot is coming off the ground in your follow through then you have less balance and thus lose your maximum effectiveness in your overall swing. Yes your plant foot should come up on it's toe's, but should never leave the ground (causing you to lunge) and thus being suceptable to off speed pitches.
 
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"Squish the Bug" is a definite no-no. For more info, refer to rightviewpro.com (Candrea/Enquist) or MikeEpsteinHitting.com
 
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Were talking about a 9 year old who is new
to fastpitch. i'm using the "squish the
bug" as a way of getting hip rotation into
your swing not as a firm all your weight on
your back foot and a hard turn. For proper
hip rotation a squishing of the bug
visualization will serve a 9 year old well.
I dont even think Mike Candrea would teach
Linear hitting to a 9 year old.
Weight transfer onto the front foot and
using all that weight transfer to generate
power is great for the long ball but a good
pitcher wil eat them up with offspeed
pitches. I personaly believe a more
rotational style of hitting will benefit you
more in the long run.
Like I said in my previous post, learn as
much as you can yourself and pick and choose
what works best for your daughter. But
remember, she is 9 not Barry Bonds,Mark
Mcgwire or Jason Giambi on steroids.
 
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While lunging at the ball would make a hitter susceptible to off-speed pitches, what I am describing is not lunging.

With the proper spine tilt on a rotational swing, the upper body will be leaning back a bit. The center of mass will remain back behind the front foot.

The front leg will stiffen, providing resistance for the powerful torque coming forward generated by rotation.

"Lunging" describes a forward shift of the center of mass. When a hitter lunges, the center of mass is too far forward. The upper body will be out over the front leg, not behind it as needed for a good rotational swing.

The rear foot coming off the ground can last for an instant, and is usually only seen with high-speed video. But it does happen. This has been documented by video analysis of elite baseball and fastpitch hitters.

And, no, I doubt that Mike Candrea would teach anyone a linear swing, if his latest instructional video is any indication. Candrea, along with Sue Enquist, in his latest instructional video is now on record as stating that the softball swing should emulate the "major league" swing. That is, a rotational swing.

This represents a break from Candrea's previous instuctional video's, where he advocated a more linear approach.

Which is all probably more than Mom101 is interested in knowing for her beginning player!

For a beginning nine-year old, keep it simple. The video I suggested in my previous post does just that, and is aimed at young children and beginners.

Repetition and practice, while focusing on the fundamentals common to all good rotational swings, is my recommendation for the beginning player.
 
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if you have notice there are a lot of people that have many different ways to teach. ?you need to really find out what is going to make your daughter tick. ?not all hitters are alike so your daughter may be able to hit in a way that another young girl may not. ?when i teach my hitting i try to see what the players strenghts are and build off of it. ?my reasons for this is to make the child feel confident and have something they can be proud of. Just remember at a young age teaching the fundamentals is extremely important. ?winning and losing at a young age is not the most important thing.
 
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And please....I gasp when I hear coaches say: "Start the hands!" "Start the hands!" "Have quick hands!" "Have quick hands!"

I know they mean well, but not only is this incorrect, it confuses players....

OK, I'm done...

Have a great summer everyone!

:)
 
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Rotational...yes, I am all for it. "Squish the bug" is a very hard habit to break once learned, and no, you don't have to do that to rotate properly.

I personally would recommend Mike Epstein's "Do we teach what we really see?" www.mikespsteinhitting.com This DVD will provide a few drills that lead to a good swing, but you and your child have to be dedicated to doing them.

....or Candrea/Enquist Right View Pro IP-300:
http://www.rightviewpro.com/ip300.php This is one of the best resources for explaining the proper swing step-by-step, and it also provides drills and examples (Olympic players) so you can see how to do it right. I wish I would have had this when my daughter was 9. It would have saved both of us a lot of time and effort. Just so you understand RVP...there is a stand alone software package that teaches the swing - IP-300 and make sure you are looking a the "softball" version because there is also a baseball version. The other RVP products are for video capture and analysis which might want to consider someday, but starting out, I don't tink you need them.
 
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