High School Coach Rule

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I need some help please......dd plays on high school indoor team coached by parents. ?New high school coach comes to game and starts coaching team. ?He/she also coaches travel team. ?Isn't this against OHSSA rules for them to be coaching HS team? Isn't this jeopordizing high school eligibilty of all the girls on the team? What if he/she has girls on travel team that will also play HS ball for them. Can they continue to play/practice with travel team. I am not trying to stir up trouble, I just want to make sure the girls aren't hurt by any of this.

 

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The HS coach CAN NOT coach any indoor softball, that IS against OHSAA rules. As for coaching his/her summer team, He/She CAN coach but if HS player is on his team he may NOT coach. I'm sure someone will get on here and type in the OHSAA bylaws for you.

 

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Don't quote me, but to my knowledge the HS Coach cannot coach indoor ball. He/she can coach a travel team between June 1 - July 31. prior and after that he /she is allowed 10 days of contact. I am sure The Bearmay can pull the rule for you from the OHSAA regulations, bear is pretty quick with those answer. Bear?

 

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June 1 - July 31 a coach can coach up to 4 of his/her HS players on a travel team without restriction (this could be indoor I guess).

 

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I believe the 10-day contact rule is for June 1-July 30 not prior and after.

There used to be discussion that if the indoor games were not a nine-player format that it didn't count as softball for coaching purposes. I know there are facilities that use 6 or 7 players--is this still the case? It was about five years ago when I last remember this being discussed.

 

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So now i am confused, if the 10 day contact period is between June 1 - July 31, then how can a HS coach also coach a travel team, surely the coach would have more than 10 days of contact just coaching games, let alone practices.

 

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So now i am confused, if the 10 day contact period is between June 1 - July 31, then how can a HS coach also coach a travel team, surely the coach would have more than 10 days of contact just coaching games, let alone practices.

As long as the team has 4 or less of the HS team the contact days don't come into play during the 6/1-7/31 time period.

As to the indoor, the text now just states that indoor ball is not softball, but goes on to say that it counts as instruction if the coach is involved, which is not permitted outside of the contact period.

 

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Like I said before the almighty bearmay knows all!

Thanks Bear!

 

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I need some help please......dd plays on high school indoor team coached by parents. New high school coach comes to game and starts coaching team. He/she also coaches travel team. Isn't this against OHSSA rules for them to be coaching HS team? Isn't this jeopordizing high school eligibilty of all the girls on the team? What if he/she has girls on travel team that will also play HS ball for them. Can they continue to play/practice with travel team. I am not trying to stir up trouble, I just want to make sure the girls aren't hurt by any of this.

So to answer your question directly:
#1 - He/she can't be coaching any of his/her HS players at this time of the year, travel or indoor.
#2 - Yes, the eligibility of the girls is at risk.

 

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ok i saw this happen over the weekend..
they have a parent coaching on the side lines
but the high school coach's (freshman, jv and Varsity) sitting
in the stands yelling instructions .. "back up" "hustle" "move to the left"
is that legal? they weren't coaching.

 

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"Technically" they're fans at that point, but......

 

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Thanks Bear for the simplified answer! Thanks to everyone who took the time to answer too!!!

 

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and if the coach happens to scratch their head right before the pitcher throws a change up or turn his hat around before she throws a riser.... its merely coincidence. ?and the piece of paper he hands to the father is actually a grocerylist ?Ha!

 

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Well I've seen several HS coaches out at the indoor games, to me I think its ok as long as their is limits with their involment. Reason why at least some of the HS coaches are taking time to come out and take some notes. Unlike this deadbeat of a coach we have at *********.


School Removed - TheBearMay

 

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HS Coaches who sit in the stands to take notes on the good and the bad do not violate OHSAA rules. ?I personally don't think that the coach violates any rules by speaking off site with the parent coach to gain further impressions of each player and to begin to develop a team strategy. ?Directly coaching at the game either through voice commands or signs crosses the line.

 

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Actually, there is no limit to the number of players from the same school during June 1 - July 31st. ?However, the 10 day contact rule still applies. Outside of those dates, it is limited to only 4 on the roster/school. ??I guess if you just played 5 two day tournaments between those summer dates, and never conducted any practices, you could do it. ?

I believe the 10 day contact rule would apply to any dates outside of the scholastic competition period and of course, not during the "no contact" period.

Here's my question, does the 10 day contact rule apply then to dates after September 6th up until the new scholastic season begins?

4.22 There is no limit on the number of fast pitch softball squad members from the
same school participating on the same squad during the period June 1-July 31.

5.6 Members of the fast pitch coaching staff are limited to a total of 10 days in any
combination of instructional program days and non-interscholastic competition
days as specified in Bylaw 10-3-5.

Correct me if I'm wrong Bear...

 

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Actually, there is no limit to the number of players from the same school during June 1 - July 31st. However, the 10 day contact rule still applies. I guess if you just played 5 two day tournaments, and never conducted any practices, you could do it.

4.22 There is no limit on the number of fast pitch softball squad members from the
same school participating on the same squad during the period June 1-July 31.

Correct me if I'm wrong Bear...

10 days for 5 or more girls from the same SCHOOL DISTRICT if a HS coach is involved, or the entire period if 4 or less:

10-3-6 In non-interscholastic participation (contests, tryouts, training and practices) in team sports, members of the school?s interscholastic coaching staff may coach interscholastic squad members from the school district where employed for a maximum of 10 days from June 1 to July 31. The 10-day limitation applies to the entire coaching staff. Each individual coach is not entitled to 10 different days for coaching.

NOTE: The Board of Control may further limit the number of contact days during this period as specified in the specific sports regulations.

EXCEPTION 1: The paid or unpaid interscholastic coach employed by a Board of Education or other governing board may coach interscholastic squad members from the school district where the coach is employed as coach without limitation from June 1 through July 31 if the 50% limitation is observed. The 50% limitation is defined as a maximum of 50% of the members of a team as defined in the playing rules of the sport.

 

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Here's my question, does the 10 day contact rule apply then to dates after September 6th up until the new scholastic season begins?

No coaching of your own high school players is allowed during the period from 9/6 until pitchers and catchers report. ?Doesn't matter if it is one girl or 12.

 

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The sad, and I mean sad part of all of this is, this rule is in place to protect student athletes from being bullied by jerk coaches in the off-season by making them attend certain workouts or playing on certain travel teams or risk their playing time in high school. I know for a fact this happens with basketball and volleyball, girls being told what priemier or alike team they need to make in the summer if they want to play volleyball or basketball in the high school season. The sad part is there are many quality high school coaches who don't do this and the players suffer. My daughter is entering high school and has had the benefit of working with the high school varsity coach many times, BUT WE SOUGHT HIM OUT. The rule should be ammended to player and coach having signed a waiver proving the player sought out the INDIVIDUAL help they want and that coach can provide. It's simply a case of a many suffering for the acts of a few!!!!

 

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here is a novel idea, how about make HS softball a fall sport! Usually the weather is better in August and September than it is in March and April! then travel teams can start practicing in the winter with no conflicts and continue all the way until travel season is over!