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need help from true experts on how to stay hydrated properly.

We had an incident that put our pitcher into an ambulance this past Sunday due to dehydration. She is all better now and actually recouped within hours. Wheew!

So, who has a good hydration program to help reduce this issue? I know that not one way is cookie cutter for all but I'd surely like to get some advice from those that a good plan and something we can implement. I will say this is only our 2nd issue, this being the most severe, in my 5 years. Had one in Panama City a couple years back.

How often to drink, staying in the shade, how much to drink and what beverage choice, plus food/fruit choices that seem to be your best "helpers". Of course we have things we do already (not a complete idiot... that's to head off Musty's comments and Gophy's...:cap:)
 
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Pickle juice. A few years ago in the steaming heat the Philadelphia Eagles whipped the Cowboys in the heat. While the Cowboys were dehydrating, cramping, etc the Eagles had no problems. Later it was discovered that they had been drinking pickle juice days and hours before and that was what kept them hydrated. Should be on the internet somewhere.

Ibeprofen with plenty of water does wonders too. I have had three daughters use that trick without problems over the years. A nurse told us years ago that taking those before a night of drinking alcohol would hold off dehydration which causes the wonderful sickness, etc of tipping one too many. I tried that, haven't gotten sick since then transferred it to my daughters and their ball. Just don't tell the kids about the trick for drinking alcohol lol

Definitely curious to hear other replies as it could be brutal this weekend.
 
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Les there was an article in this past months Runners World that talked about exactly what you are describing. It layed out what to intake before games, during games and after to recover. I left my copy on the plane when I flew back.

What I do remember is the move to drinking slushies 30 minutes to an hour before activity to cool the players/runners core temp. It had a bunch of great info. See if it is online - it will help.
 
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Start the hydration early. 24 to 36 hours before the weekend starts. Pounding water the day of the tournament is like scratching an itch. It may feel beneficial but wont resolve the issue at hand immediately.

Rule of thumb if the urine is clear the bodies tissues are hydrated. It will go along way to feeling the difference between feeling good and looking like the walking dead after 4 or 5 games on a Sat.

Tim
 
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Sorry to hear you had one go down. This past weekend I seen about 10 with heat related issues.

We all know the experts will say avoid strenuous activities in this weather..

I tell my players the same things we have all learned from football camp. Start hydrating days before the event.... Avoid soda and energy drinks.

There is nothing wrong with good old water especially in the evenings since when that is the best time to hydrate your body.

During play keep a pop-up or cover over the dugout. I seen a lot of teams with no protection for their players this weekend and if you are running lean with 10 or 11 you may not finish.
Alter your pre-game warm up. Again I seen a team running their players this weekend and when they were done two or three were spent...

Most of all common sense. Keep an eye on the players ask them questions see how they respond and look for early signs of heat stress. Keep a cooler with ice and rags available be careful using some of the ammonia concoctions people use.
 
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Start the hydration early. 24 to 36 hours before the weekend starts. Pounding water the day of the tournament is like scratching an itch. It may feel beneficial but wont resolve the issue at hand immediately.

Rule of thumb if the urine is clear the bodies tissues are hydrated. It will go along way to feeling the difference between feeling good and looking like the walking dead after 4 or 5 games on a Sat.

Tim

This.
hydrate the day before...the day of don't overload and try to drink sports drinks to replace lost electrolytes...if you see a player chugging water like Kavin crushing beer at a kegger, keep an eye on her. She's likely going to have issues.
 
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Avoid pop and caffiene. Pop fills you up - so you don't drink enough. Caffeinated drinks actually dehydrate the body - diuretic.

Stay in shade as much as possible. Sunscreen also helps.

The kids need to understand the warning signs too - many don't worry about it till they start cramping. If they have dark urine - that's a huge warning sign. They think if they aren't sweating, how could they be dehydrating?

Unfortunately - black uniforms don't help the cause either... they absorb all that heat that you are trying to fight.
 
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You need to stress to the girls the importance of drinking water before and during the game. (Even days before) I am willing to bet they are not consuming enough water before. This is so important.

I am a certified personal trainer, and here is what I do for my kids (I have a 10u and a 12u). I make them drink at least 16 ounces if water before the day starts. I am not huge into gatorade, but I will give it to them diluted 50% maybe less on really hot days. My kids drink about 5-6 16oz bottles of water per game day. Mind you, some of this ends up on their heads But there are several factors that determine how much water they need: Climate, muscle mass, weight etc.

For breakfast, I like to give them oatmeal. It is more sustainable than other cereals with a lot of sugar. If I am out of that, I give them mini-wheats. For lunches on game days, we stay away from burgers and hot dogs. Soft pretzels sit in thier tummies like a ton of bricks. I give them turkey sandwiches on whole wheat and fruit for lunch.

I find that the best fruits are high in water. Grapes (great to freeze) and watermelon are good. I buy the Dole Mandarin Oranges by the case at BJ's. These are great if they are feeling sluggish and tired. If their blood sugar drops, I have found that this has been the best thing to bring them back. You can keep them in a cooler and the kids love them. I never go to a tournament without them.

Bananas are also great. When you are dehydrated you are actually low on potassium as well. Being low on potassium makes you feel lightheaded and actually pass out in some cases.

After a day playing ball or any strenuous workout, you have about a 30 min. window to replenish what you've lost. Replenishment is extremely important for the next day. That is why it is important to replenish on Saturday after pool play and before Sunday. It helps with endurance for Sunday. There is some reserarch out there that I support that an 8oz glass of chocolate milk is one of the best things to replensh at the end. Just don't give it to them during the day. The protein helps to replenish fatigued muscles and the sodium and sugars need replenishing as well. Again, this is all important for endurance.

No pop and absolutely NO caffeine. I know that the most resent research says that this may not be true, but I feel that it still works on these kids as a diuretic. Not to mention it causes bloating and gas. And who plays their best if they are bloated?

Finally, you may already do this, but keeping a cooler of towels helps to cool them off. Those new frog towels are great.

Hope this helps.
 
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One of the biggest warning signs I have found as a coach over the years. If one of your players is not going to the restroom in this kind of heat she is more than likely at some degree of dehydration. Girls hate porta potties and will do almost anything to avoid them, even if that means drinking less water so they dont have to go.

Tim
 
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Tim - you are so right!

This has been a very informative thread. Chocolate milk will be a winner at the end of my DDs day for sure.
 
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Unfortunately - black uniforms don't help the cause either... they absorb all that heat that you are trying to fight.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately some dont have the option of not wearing the black uniforms....my daughter drinks water all week long, only has 1 pop a day and try to have her eat some fruits that help give her energy. It can be rough...just have to keep our eyes on them and make sure they are doing the neccessary things to stay hydrated. Rest between games is a big plus also...just sitting and relaxing, not off running around and staying in the direct sunlight.
 
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Water for days before tournament weekend. Girls are most likely dehydrated before they ever hit the field on game day-have 3 of my own who are living testaments.
DD had some issues early last summer with overheating, shaking, nausea, and beginnings of heat exhaustion so we talked to her pitching coach. Coach asked what she ate and drank on tournament days and then ripped her diet up!
Her advice was water (yes flavor packet can be added for the picky DD who doesn't like plain water) and small frequent snacks. Things to avoid=all things that are sugar related: sports drinks (can get the salt from other sources), soft drinks, white flour carbs (bread, potatoes, pasta-yes even chef-boy-ardee cold from the can). Okay things: pickles/juice, whole grain breads, lots of protein (low-fat chocolate milk, peanut butter, low-fat lunch meat, cheese, yogurt), fresh fruit (just the right amount of sugar and water).
Some parents even take a small cooler of ice water for soaking small towels in and then use them to wrap around head and neck between innings.
 
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Here is what my DDs team does:

- they practice for 3 hours 2 times per week in the middle of the day (11-2pm), it seems to get them used to the heat, and conditioned to working and playing in heat

- she stresses that they drink a ton of water the day before

- after initial warm up it is pretty much a light catching drill, unless it has been 4+ hours, then they may do more

- we have our DDs eat bacon the day of, and at least 1-2 gatoraids the day of

- food the day of is snack stuff, fruit, bananas, orange slices

- we have tents, tarps to cover any and all types of dugouts

- we scout the fields and make sure we get the shady dugout (this can be dicey but the girls are grateful)

- on a long day with a 4-5 hour break we have taken them swimming....yes I know, but if someone lives local and has an outside pool it will bring there core temp down

- frog towels, lots of ice in coolers with rags

At 10U our second year my daughter (the catcher) basically melted and had to get pulled. Ever since then we take the heat and water issue very seriously. The last couple of years we have had zero issues. It makes a big difference in the large tournaments. And hopefully at Worlds this year.
 
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I have a friend who has hs boys who play *** and football in Atlanta. They are to drink a gallon of water at least 24 hours a day before pratice/games then keep that up thru out the training/weekend/whatever that may be. Same no carbonated beverages and steer clear of sugary drinks.
 
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This was sent to our team.

How to Stay Hydrated in Hot Weather

With hot temperatures on the rise this summer, knowing how to stay hydrated is crucial.

The human body is made up of 50 percent to 75 percent water, or about 10 to 12 gallons, so staying well hydrated is essential for proper body functioning. The Institute of Medicine recommends that women consume approximately 2.7 liters (91 ounces or 11 cups) of total water from all foods and beverages each day. For men, the recommendations are approximately 3.7 liters (150 ounces or 19 cups) per day.

Food usually accounts for 20 percent of your total fluid intake, so if you consume 2 liters of water or other beverages a day (a little more than 8 cups) along with your normal diet, you will typically replace lost fluids.

However, you may need to modify your total fluid intake depending your activity level, the climate you live in, your health status, and whether you're pregnant or breast-feeding. For example, the more you exercise, the more fluid you'll need to keep your body hydrated.

How do you know if you're getting enough? The simplest way to tell whether you're hydrated is the color of your urine; if it's almost clear, that indicates that you are properly hydrated.

Even mild dehydration (as little as a 1 percent or 2 percent loss of your body weight) can zap your energy and make you tired. Common causes of dehydration include strenuous activity, excessive sweating, vomiting and diarrhea. Some typical signs and symptoms to look for include mild to excessive thirst, fatigue, headache, dry mouth, little or no urination, muscle weakness, dizziness, or lightheadedness.

Being mildly dehydrated rarely results in complications as long as you replace the fluid your body has lost. However, more severe cases can be life threatening, especially in the very young and the elderly. In extreme situations, fluids or electrolytes may need to be delivered intravenously.

What are some alternatives to water to help with hydration? Plain water is best, but all fluids, such as juice, tea, soup and even coffee, can aid in hydration. In addition, some common foods, like fruits and vegetables, are mostly comprised of water.

Take a look at the water content of some of the foods listed below:

* Lettuce (half cup): 95%
* Watermelon (half cup): 92%
* Broccoli (half cup): 91%
* Grapefruit (half cup): 91%
* Milk (one cup): 89%
* Orange juice (6 ounces): 88%
* Carrot (half cup): 87%
* Yogurt (one cup): 85%
* Apple (one medium): 84%

Additionally, several manufacturers are promoting flavored waters that may be alternatives for those who don't drink a lot of water. Drinks that are flavored only with calorie-free sweeteners such as asparatame or Splenda(R) are a good substitute. However, watch out for those with added sugar and fat. You can certainly help keep yourself hydrated with these calorie and sugar-laden beverages, but you may also notice your weight creeping up. Be sure to look at the serving size and account for the extra calories in your daily budget.

Consider these tips to help keep you hydrated:

* Drink before you're thirsty. By the time you feel thirsty, you are probably already dehydrated.
* Drink plenty of water throughout the day. Carry a bottle of water with you throughout the day. You'll be more likely to drink if it's there with you. Bring water to meetings, have a bottle in your car on your commute to work, and have some at your desk.
* Don't substitute beverages with alcohol or caffeine for water. Your body does use some fluid from caffeinated and alcoholic beverages, but they also act as diuretics, which can cause you to lose water through increased urination.
* Drink water throughout your workout. Keep a bottle of water with you and take frequent water breaks.
* Start and end your day with water. Your body loses water while you sleep, so drink a serving before bed and again when you wake up.
 
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Bolders Dad and musty have posted very good and reliable information

I recommend to my patients who weigh >120 lbs that they drink at least 24 oz of water 1-2 hours before sports participation in a sweaty sport then every 15-20 minutes they are getting a small drink.

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommendations:
The normal thirst mechanism is unreliable for determining how much fluid should be consumed;
about 120 to 180 mL every 15 to 20 minutes for a 40 kg (88lbs) child is a good starting point
http://www.aap.org/sections/sportsmedicine/PDFs/SportsShorts_02.pdf

also link for sports nutrition http://www.aap.org/sections/sportsmedicine/PDFs/SportsShorts_06.pdf

Fluids: Children and teenagers are at increased risk for dehydration (lack of adequate body water) and heat illness. Risk is greatest in hot, humid weather during long and intense activities. Use these guidelines to ensure that young athletes get enough fluids during physical activity:
- Never restrict fluids for any reason. Make sure that drinks are available at all times.
-Plain water is the best drink for most athletes. Carbonated drinks should not be used. Offering flavored water or an
appropriate sport drink (check with your pediatrician) may encourage a young athlete to drink more.
- Athletes need to drink 4 to 8 ounces of water every 15 to 20 minutes during activity.
- Thirst is not a reliable guide to the need for water. An athlete may become dehydrated before he or she feels thirsty.
-Body weight should be about the same before and after activity.


Pre-exercise/Game Meal Guidelines:May include any reasonable foods that an athlete feels may help his or her performance
and do not cause any complaints.
Nutrition Pearls:
1. Failing to take in enough fluids and calories may lead to early fatigue, irritability, or a sudden drop in performance.
2. Pre-event liquid meals are safe and effective. They provide fluids, are easy to digest, and empty quickly from the stomach
(if they are not too concentrated).
3. Consuming carbohydrates within 30 minutes after intense exercise followed by more carbohydrates 2 hours later
helps athletes better prepare for future activities.
4. Avoid supplements that may include unproven and dangerous ingredients.





Also if you are interested (sorry this is lengthy)

Body temperature is maintained within a narrow range by balancing heat load with heat dissipation. Evaporation is the principal mechanism of heat loss in a hot environment, but this becomes ineffective above a relative humidity of 75 percent.
Up to 70 percent of the risk for heat illness is attributable to excess humidity, followed by elevated solar radiation (20 percent) and increased temperature (10 percent).
Children differ from adults with respect to their anatomical and physiologic response to heat stress. These differences translate into a potentially greater risk for severe heat illness in children, especially infants and young athletes (I will put differences at end if you are interested)
Heat exhaustion Patients with heat exhaustion have known heat exposure and an elevated core body temperature between 37C (98.6F) and 40C (104F). Additional symptoms include:
- Tachycardia
- Sweating (especially when associated with exercise)
- Nausea, vomiting
- Headache
- Fatigue, weakness
- Dizziness
- Syncope with prompt return of normal mental status
- Severe thirst
- Normal mental status or mild confusion that responds rapidly (within 30 minutes) to cooling
- Signs of mild to moderate dehydration
Children with symptoms of heat exhaustion should stop exercising immediately and be moved to a cooler environment (eg, natural shade, air conditioned vehicle, air conditioned building). Excess clothing should be removed, and the patient should be given chilled salt-containing liquids (eg, flavored sports drinks such as Gatorade?) to drink. Most patients with mild heat exhaustion respond to these measures and do not require further care

Recommended adaptations include more hydration breaks, more frequent player substitutions during organized competition, ensuring a shaded area for rest
Maintenance of hydration Scheduled hydration breaks with strong encouragement for drinking is very important in children because they are more likely to inadequately replenish fluid losses during prolonged exercise and have a higher rise in rectal temperature when dehydrated relative to adults
Flavoring water by adding both carbohydrates and sodium chloride increases fluid intake by as much as 90 percent versus offering unflavored water

The adequacy of hydration can be measured by comparing pre- and post-activity dry weight. One rule of thumb is to consume 240 mL (8 ounces) of fluid for every pound lost during the event. Athletes with persistent weight loss of 2 percent or more should be withheld from activity since unreplaced fluid losses over consecutive days of exercise markedly increase the risk for heat illness.

Appropriate clothing - Children should wear a single layer of absorbent, loose fitting clothing to maximize convective heat loss. Light colors help reduce absorption of solar radiation


Pediatric considerations - Several key anatomic and physiologic differences exist between children and adults. These differences theoretically place children at increased risk for heat-related illness, although direct comparison between adults and children has failed to show differences in heat dispersal or greater vulnerability to heat illness among children.
- Heat production -Children produce more metabolic heat per kilogram of body weight because they have a higher basal metabolic rate than adults.
- Body surface area -Younger children have a higher surface area to mass ratio, resulting in a greater rate of heat absorption in hot environments. However, body composition (especially an increase in body fat) and lack of fitness are likely more important contributors to susceptibility to heat illness in older children and adolescents.
- Blood circulation - Children have a smaller absolute blood volume which limits the potential of blood borne heat transfer from the body core to the body surface where this heat can be dissipated. In addition, children have a lower cardiac output at a given metabolic rate than adults, further limiting head dissipation during exercise
- Sweat production - Children have a lower rate of sweating than adults as a result of a lower sweat rate per gland and begin sweating at a higher body temperature
- Fluid replenishment - Children are more likely to inadequately replenish fluid losses during prolonged exercise and have a higher rise in rectal -Temperature when dehydrated
- Acclimatization - Physiologic changes that result in increased heat tolerance include increased rate of sweating, a lower temperature threshold for sweating, reduced electrolyte losses in sweat, lower heart rate, increased aldosterone production with decreased urinary sodium, and lower core and skin temperatures. Children achieve these adaptations to a hot environment more slowly than adults and typically require 10 to 14 days to achieve adequate acclimatization
 
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I love these kind of threads! Thank you for starting it. There is some really good info here. :yahoo:
 
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funsister is an expert....nurse practitioner!

I would add every trainer I have talked with, as a rule of thumb is every 15 minutes on the field and you should drink 8 to 10 ounces of water when in the dug out.

The book The Winning State of Softball does a great job of explaining this in detail as treating the body as a furnace and how to fuel it is important.

Howard
 

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