Information at Tryouts / Parent Expectations

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Parents,
Please share your best experiences at tryouts. Things like what do you expect to receive from an organization or coach at the actual tryout. Thanks in advance.
 

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We appreciate information on the team and organization- how the team did last season and what coach envisions for this season, types of tourneys, goals, cost, fundraisers or lack of, preliminary practice info (once a week in offseason with batting at home, then twice a week come spring, etc), how many players on the roster, and the expectations for the players and parents… whew, seems like a lot…. :rolleyes:
 

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Good topic this time of year! This will be a major topic of discussion on this evening's The Softball Zone Radio Show as well.
 

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All the same as above. Add to that for pitchers/catchers, how many on the roster and what are the coach's plans for rotation? If offered a spot on the roster then ask coach to be honest about plans for pitcher DD: will she be 1, 2, or 3 and if 3 will she play another position rather than sit the bench?
 

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All the same as above. Add to that for pitchers/catchers, how many on the roster and what are the coach's plans for rotation? If offered a spot on the roster then ask coach to be honest about plans for pitcher DD: will she be 1, 2, or 3 and if 3 will she play another position rather than sit the bench?


Thought about this. I would actually steer clear of Coaches who label pitchers #1, #2, #3 in August. Especially at 10u and 12u. I would feel more confident in the opinion of, your DD will be a major pitcher for the team; if she practices and works hard over fall, winter and spring then she will pitch in big games. If she takes off November thru April 1 then she won't. Promising a pitcher she will be #1 or #2 is a recipe for disaster. It's one of those things as a coach that could be a major problem for you come June and your #1 from last August isn't handling the pressure or just wants the "glory" of the #1 position and didn't keep up her end of the agreement.
 

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Agree with above.. No way to label a 1,2,3 etc in August. Also find out as much as you can about other parents. Remember you have to play with these kids (and parents) for next 11 months. Everyone puts their best foot forward at the try outs and then watch out! Listen A LOT from the sidelines as well as the coaches. Ask a ton of questions. Once the commitment is made its hard to challenge stuff after the fact..

Here is a list of top 5 questions I always ask..

1. What level of softball will the team play? All travel is NOT equal!
2. Practice schedule? Can I commit to making 98% of practices?
3. Where do (you, coach) see my kid in the "fit" of the team?
4. How many will we carry? Run don't walk if a coach is taking 14-15 kids....
5. What are the plans for indoor, fall , and winter. This is huge- fastpitch does not stop in the winter....
 

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Also find out as much as you can about other parents. Remember you have to play with these kids (and parents) for next 11 months. Everyone puts their best foot forward at the try outs and then watch out! Listen A LOT from the sidelines as well as the coaches. Ask a ton of questions. Once the commitment is made its hard to challenge stuff after the fact..

I agree somewhat with what you are saying, but you always have a choice not to sit by anyone that rubs you wrong. I would be more concerned about the kids, how they interact with the others as well as their parents. Watch for a parent that is in the coaches hip-pocket, that has always been a red flag for me. Even worse is when the coach is in the parent's hip-pocket.

Here is a list of top 5 questions I always ask..

1. What level of softball will the team play? All travel is NOT equal!
2. Practice schedule? Can I commit to making 98% of practices?
3. Where do (you, coach) see my kid in the "fit" of the team?
4. How many will we carry? Run don't walk if a coach is taking 14-15 kids....
5. What are the plans for indoor, fall , and winter. This is huge- fastpitch does not stop in the winter....


1. Good question, but how many parents even comprehend the levels of play? Even more important is to take what the coach tells you and relate that to the level of talent you see trying out. If the coach is telling you that you are going to play in top tier tourneys and you are not looking at approximately 70% top tier players trying out then you need to think about it. Every coach goes into tryouts with a plan (or at least the good ones do) of the pieces they need to build the team they want, but whether or not they get those pieces and still keep all the pieces they have is another story.

2. Again, what is planned versus what will actually happen is another story. Until the team is finalized this is kind of a in-flux item, and it gets worse at the older ages when the gilrs have school, work, etc...

3. A fair question, just don't take the answer as gospel. Until the tryouts are complete and all commitments are made there are no definites.

4. I have always carried 14 or 15, especially as the kids get older. The older the girls get the harder they play the game and the more injuries happen. This also gives a player the ability to enjoy their family vacation (if they take one outside of ball) without worrying about the team having enough players. After-all this is only a game and a full ride is very rare, so enjoy life with your kids while they're young.

5. Very legit questions. So sad that the game has gone year round forcing many of the girls to give up other sports, clubs, hobbies, etc...
 
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1. ASA, PGF,USSSA?
2. Is there a parent coach?
3. Who handle hotels, dues, Unis etc
4. Last year record?

PLEASE ALL ORGANIZATIONS DO NOT OFFER A SPOT AND TAKE IT AWAY IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS! looks bad on your organization and parents talk
 

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I think there are some common themes that families should look for at any age, but otherwise this thread would be best served by being broken down by age level. The things that are important at 10-U and 12-U are different than at 16-U, and possibly different again at 18-U.

Generally, if I were a parent, I would look for certain things at any age level.

Professionalism - Starting with tryouts, how well-organized were the tryouts? Was there a tryout plan in place? Was the tryout done professionally? Was the communication thorough? Do the people running the organization and the particular team seem like they are on the ball? Are the plans for the fall and next summer specific, or is it just a general thought in the coach's head? Exactly when and where will the team practice? Is 100% attendance expected? If some players don't meet the practice expectations, what happens?

Roster - How many players will the team carry? (As far as I'm concerned, college exposure teams should carry 13-16. If you want to play college ball, why would you be afraid to compete for playing time? I guarantee you will have to do this in college, and if you aren't prepared mentally for it, you will likely quit before your junior year). If it's a college exposure team, who is handling the communications with college coaches, both at tournaments and in general? What tournaments is the team playing? If it includes invitationals, has the team been invited in the past? If not, what credentials will get the team invited this coming year?

Money - How much goes directly to team expenses and how much to the organization for organizational expenses? Do we get a rundown of team expenses so we can see how our money is being used? Who handles the money? Who decides how our money is spent, is it the head coach or the organization head? I could go on and on here, but I'd do some investigation and ask questions. Anything other than complete transparency can safely be considered a huge red flag.

Coaching - This is difficult if parents don't have a good deal of knowledge about the game. If I were a parent and wasn't sure whether a particular coach knew the game well enough to teach it, I would be asking around to as many people as I could find to get opinions. If I did know the game, I would simply ask the coach some philosophical questions about the game and maybe some game strategy and technique questions. You're up 3-1 in the 7th and the other team has runners on 1st and 3rd and no outs, what 1st-3rd play are you going to call if they steal? If they don't know the easy answer to that, then they shouldn't be coaching a competitive team. Do you teach hitting? If so, what method do you teach?

I could write a thousand more things here and any parent who asks all of this is likely to be seen as way too meddlesome, with their kid never finding a team. But these are examples of the things I would be trying to find out.
 

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