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and that list is for real. Again, if you want "National Exposure", hit the road and get out of OHIO. The Oregon's and Ole Misses won't come to Ohio to discover your kid. They don't window shop. They come to events to see particular players. Be that player. Reach out. Get to where they will be...


Oregon, University of Notre Dame, Penn State, Purdue, and many more will be at Outlaws Invitational.

Also as far as some of these showcases go just going to them is not the answer unless you are on the main fields, and then you need to have the right name on your jersey that is know nationally. If not it can be a huge waste of time. Scenic city for example if you are not in the super polls it can be a disappointment, and the same goes for D9, Legacy and many of these tournaments that have 5 to 10 different complexes.
 
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That is quite a list of 115 Colleges College Coaches that attended the 2015 version of the Scenic City Tournamnet.
1. Did all those college actually show up?
2. If they actually did show up..what did the SCT do that encouraged them to do so?
3. Can we do the same?

1) Sometimes yes sometimes no. I think some tournaments will exaggerate their lists a little.
2) Get Nationally known teams
3) You need to get teams from outside the state with a National presence as well as the teams within the state that are known nationally. Some Ohio events that are doing that and or headed in that direction Stingrays, Fall Brawl, and Outlaws Invitational.
 

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That is quite a list of 115 Colleges College Coaches that attended the 2015 version of the Scenic City Tournamnet.
2. If they actually did show up..what did the SCT do that encouraged them to do so?
3. Can we do the same?

I do not know the inner workings on what TD's do in bringing colleges to showcases, especially at the SCT level and the amount of teams being hosted. But most of the colleges listed are there to see a girl or a group of girls. Not becasue the TD asked them to but because the young ladies reached out to them either by email, hand written letters, and/or called them. The young ladies attended the camps they're interested in and rose to the top drawing interest from said college coaches. Then a follow up was done by the young ladies, but not just by them but their coach and/or recruiting coordinator. Then add the piece Warren stated about being on a nationally recognized team, getting placed in the right venues, etc. After all of that is said and done, the young lady must still perform in a game.

Sadly, most don't realize the work that must be done. Those that do, only a few get chosen.
 

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That is quite a list of 115 Colleges College Coaches that attended the 2015 version of the Scenic City Tournamnet.
1. Did all those college actually show up?
2. If they actually did show up..what did the SCT do that encouraged them to do so?
3. Can we do the same?

We played the ILL Force in the main stadium last year at Scenic City - my parent counted 20 college coaches in the stands and 30 more upstairs in the enclosed AC/Media area. Amazing number of schools there.
 

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I do not know the inner workings on what TD's do in bringing colleges to showcases, especially at the SCT level and the amount of teams being hosted. But most of the colleges listed are there to see a girl or a group of girls. Not because the TD asked them to but because the young ladies reached out to them either by email, hand written letters, and/or called them. The young ladies attended the camps they're interested in and rose to the top drawing interest from said college coaches. Then a follow up was done by the young ladies, but not just by them but their coach and/or recruiting coordinator. Then add the piece Warren stated about being on a nationally recognized team, getting placed in the right venues, etc. After all of that is said and done, the young lady must still perform in a game.

Sadly, most don't realize the work that must be done. Those that do, only a few get chosen.

So true. The girls themselves draw the college coaches. When we put together the Recruiting books for the college coaches, we can see just how much each girl is marketing herself. A lot of the players stop by the College Coach tent to check and see which colleges have signed-in. It is great to see their face and excitement when they see that one or more of the colleges that they have been communicating with is "in the house."

There is an unwritten agreement between the player/team, the college coaches, and the tournament. The player does her part of communicating with the college coaches and she performs her best at the tournament. The college coach will come and watch. The tournament will offer the teams/players and the college coaches a very competitive field of teams, a great playing environment, and a good schedule where the coaches and teams can get from game to game and maximize the viewing/playing time.

College coaches are there to watch their prospect perform in a very competitive environment. The teams that have those college coaches following their girls know this. They will look for those very competitive/selective tournaments. So, tournaments have to offer a competitive environment which means that they cannot have an open enrollment. They have to be very selective. It is a very hard process. Sometimes, the tournament will have a "dud" team or two. And at the same time, we strike out by missing a competitive team. Sorry, it does happen. We just try to not make the same mistake the next year.

Now that you have the college coaches at your tournament, you want them to have an enjoyable experience. You want them to come back next year, even if they don't have a list of girls to follow. At the minimum, provide free drinks. Free food and cart rides is also nice. Providing an area at each ball field for them to watch the game without having to squeeze in between spectators is also a must. If there is a long line at the concession stand, get their order through the "back-door" so they don't waste time.

Having multiple playing sites presents an issue. Try keeping like age groups at the same facility allows the coaches more time to watch the girls. If they have to travel between sites, then they are wasting time and they will see this tournament as not worth their time.

I want teams and coaches to have an enjoyable time at our tournament. Those that know me see me checking in the coaches and also talking with the different teams. As a TD or Site Manager, you have to be available to the college coaches and the teams. You cannot hide in the admin tent. Yes, you will get some upset travel coaches/parents and it is always a challenge settling those issues.
But if you are friendly and out there meeting the masses, you will also meet some great families and college coaches who will give you some great feedback on how to make your event improve for the next year.

Just a few things that we have seen and learned over the years.
 

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So true. The girls themselves draw the college coaches. When we put together the Recruiting books for the college coaches, we can see just how much each girl is marketing herself. A lot of the players stop by the College Coach tent to check and see which colleges have signed-in. It is great to see their face and excitement when they see that one or more of the colleges that they have been communicating with is "in the house."

There is an unwritten agreement between the player/team, the college coaches, and the tournament. The player does her part of communicating with the college coaches and she performs her best at the tournament. The college coach will come and watch. The tournament will offer the teams/players and the college coaches a very competitive field of teams, a great playing environment, and a good schedule where the coaches and teams can get from game to game and maximize the viewing/playing time.

College coaches are there to watch their prospect perform in a very competitive environment. The teams that have those college coaches following their girls know this. They will look for those very competitive/selective tournaments. So, tournaments have to offer a competitive environment which means that they cannot have an open enrollment. They have to be very selective. It is a very hard process. Sometimes, the tournament will have a "dud" team or two. And at the same time, we strike out by missing a competitive team. Sorry, it does happen. We just try to not make the same mistake the next year.

Now that you have the college coaches at your tournament, you want them to have an enjoyable experience. You want them to come back next year, even if they don't have a list of girls to follow. At the minimum, provide free drinks. Free food and cart rides is also nice. Providing an area at each ball field for them to watch the game without having to squeeze in between spectators is also a must. If there is a long line at the concession stand, get their order through the "back-door" so they don't waste time.

Having multiple playing sites presents an issue. Try keeping like age groups at the same facility allows the coaches more time to watch the girls. If they have to travel between sites, then they are wasting time and they will see this tournament as not worth their time.

I want teams and coaches to have an enjoyable time at our tournament. Those that know me see me checking in the coaches and also talking with the different teams. As a TD or Site Manager, you have to be available to the college coaches and the teams. You cannot hide in the admin tent. Yes, you will get some upset travel coaches/parents and it is always a challenge settling those issues.
But if you are friendly and out there meeting the masses, you will also meet some great families and college coaches who will give you some great feedback on how to make your event improve for the next year.

Just a few things that we have seen and learned over the years.

I want in on this benefit !
 

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Hitter,You mean you want back stage access to the concession stand, free drinks and rides to fields ? Don't think any of us could afford that tourney lol
 

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The fee for the SCT is $1,075....maybe its the food and golf carts that are running up the cost?
 

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That is quite a list of 115 Colleges College Coaches that attended the 2015 version of the Scenic City Tournamnet.
1. Did all those college actually show up?
2. If they actually did show up..what did the SCT do that encouraged them to do so?
3. Can we do the same?
1) Sometimes yes sometimes no. I think some tournaments will exaggerate their lists a little.
2) Get Nationally known teams
3) You need to get teams from outside the state with a National presence as well as the teams within the state that are known nationally.
Some Ohio events that are doing that and or headed in that direction Stingrays, Fall Brawl, and Outlaws Invitational.
Besides having name recognition/reputation, another factor is having a lot of committed players since schools attend to monitor their recruits. That's often/usually why major D1 programs are watching an 18U game.
 

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The fee for the SCT is $1,075....maybe its the food and golf carts that are running up the cost?
Supply and demand - waiting lists allow them to increase it (e.g. was $975 last year). FWIW, it is a 6-game guarantee...

Note: SCT's CONNECT camp on June 8 overlaps the D1 recruiting dead period for WCWS, which runs until noon of June 8 or 9 depending on whether the WCWS championship series goes 2 or 3 games. There isn't an issue for the advertised "15 Division 1 Coaches will be on staff", however other D-I coaches have to abide by the dead period.
 
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Supply and demand - waiting lists allow them to increase it (e.g. was $975 last year). FWIW, it is a 6-game guarantee...

Note: SCT's CONNECT camp on June 8 overlaps the D1 recruiting dead period for WCWS, which runs until noon of June 8 or 9 depending on whether the WCWS championship series goes 2 or 3 games. There isn't an issue for the advertised "15 Division 1 Coaches will be on staff", however other D-I coaches have to abide by the dead period.
The recruiting calendar I saw says June 9th . So if accurate I guess they will not have D1 coaches at their camp if it on the 8th.
 
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The recruiting calendar I saw says June 9th . So if accurate I guess they will not have D1 coaches at their camp if it on the 8th.
You missed the note...

(2) May 31 through June 9 (noon), 2016:** Dead Period
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** Dates are based on the 2016 NCAA Division I Women's Softball Championship. Dead period remains in effect until noon the day following the conclusion of the Women's College World Series. If the championship series ends after two games, the dead period ends on June 8 at noon.


D-I Coaches can work the camp...

13.12.1.5 Recruiting Calendar Exceptions. The interaction during sports camps and clinics between prospective student-athletes and those coaches employed by the camp or clinic is not subject to the recruiting calendar restrictions. However, an institutional staff member employed at any camp or clinic (e.g., counselor, director) is prohibited from recruiting any prospective student-athlete during the time period that the camp or clinic is conducted (from the time the prospective student-athlete reports to the camp or clinic until the conclusion of all camp activities). The prohibition against recruiting includes extending written offers of financial aid to any prospective student-athlete during his or her attendance at the camp or clinic (see Bylaw 13.9.2.2), but does not include recruiting conversations between the certifying institution?s coach and a participating prospective student-athlete during the institution?s camps or clinics. Other coaches wishing to attend the camp as observers must comply with appropriate recruiting contact and evaluation periods. In addition, institutional camps or clinics may not be conducted during a dead period. (Revised: 4/3/02, 4/26/12)
 
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