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Fine Line
Its weird because I've been on both sides of this argument. I believe that respect between rivals & or opponents in sports is very important & healthy. What seems to be happening is way too much contact with opponents in travel softball. People from different teams calling each other on a regular basis. This may seem harmless on the surface but in fact it is just the opposite. False rumors & team secretes are passed during these conversations. This is not good for either team & usually leads to animosity. If you left a team to play with another team but cant live without talking to people on another team then you should not have left or you should join that team. Here is a saying from world war II that applies. loose lips sink ships! im sure this has been the way for a long time but it just seems worse now days or maybe I was lucky to be around people that didnt do this. Just my opinion!

 

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Of course, I don't know your situation BUT.... It's softball, not the nuclear secrets of The United States. If there is animosity then maybe those feeling the animosity should reflect upon themselves. People in this community take everything way too seriously. [SIZE=+6]


ATTITUDE[/SIZE]
by: Charles Swindoll
The longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life.

Attitude, to me, is more important than facts. It is more important than the past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than successes, than what other people think or say or do. It is more important than appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or break a company... a church... a home.

The remarkable thing is we have a choice every day regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day. We cannot change our past... we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude... I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.

And so it is with you... we are in charge of our attitudes.

 

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I don't see any harm for a young lady to stay in contact with old teammates. Part of this game is about making life long friends isn't it? I'm not sure what "team secrets" could be revealed between girls, maybe signs from a coach but I've never heard of a girl doing that? So if a girl is unhappy on a team for whatever the reason(s) she shouldn't leave if she intends on staying in contact with some of her soon to be ex teammates because.....?????? I'm a bit confused by this thread...... thought part of this great game was the friendships and memories you make......

 

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I think like anything else in life...loose lips only hurts your own reputation, especially if all you do is talk behind someone's back or only talk about negativity.

of course you may be talking about the old bible adage...something like, what comes out of your mouth is more poisonous.

 

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Sounds like ohioice21 needs to find a team a little higher up on the totem-poll.....Doing so will weed alot of that kinda stuff out ...... lesser teams that think there good ????generate alot of that Fine Line Stuff .... Great post !
Keep working Hard .....
Good Luck !

 

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Nothing greater than watching a young lady play against one of her friends every player I have had that goes against friends or ex teams usually gives extra effort that game.nothing wrong with friendly competition. I am in touch with several coaches in my age group call talk to them on somewhat regular basis but we all know when we get on the dirt we are gunning for each other. I agree in some of those conversations in past things can get said and turned around to rumor etc but that's on the person you talked to or you. So if that happens you just have to choose if u want to continue that relationship. But being friendly competitors is absolutely good for game and certainly ok for girls to be friends with other players. Only so many girls my daughters age that have the same drive dedication and love for this sport as her. Brett favre and warren sapp was great example they became buddies through competing against each other both have 110 percent to beat the other but when game was over respect and friendship was still there

 

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Are you talking about players or parents?

 

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I think like anything else in life...loose lips only hurts your own reputation, especially if all you do is talk behind someone's back or only talk about negativity.

of course you may be talking about the old bible adage...something like, what comes out of your mouth is more poisonous.

Nice new Avatar Blue_Ice.....very cool action shot.

 

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Because of the amount of time you spend with each other over the course of the summer or summers, genuine friendships are often formed as a result of being on the same travel team and some people are lucky enough to form friendships that last well beyond the time they are on the same team. I have to admit that it brought a smile to my face when I asked my daughter who she was texting a few nights ago and she replied that she was texting a former teammate to tell her Happy Birthday. Having said that, you are definitely correct in that there are always those who think the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. In fact, I know of teams who have had players leave only to come back and all but beg to return to the team they left........sometimes only a few months into the next season!

 

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I really don't see the issue with girls remaining friends with former teammates that they are close to. There is a lot of time spent together in a year or two on a team. These girls give up a lot of social life with their school friends to play ball. They spend so much time together and have very common interests and some girls develop very close friendships. Most girls in the local school community do not understand the sacrifice and passion some travel softball players have - but other travel softball players understand it. My daughter has friends at school - but it's not the same as some of the friendships she has developed through softball.

And besides just teammates - my daughter has spent 2 hours every Monday at catching lessons with many of the same girls for the past 4 years. They encourage and pick each other up during hard days; watch each other and cheer for each other at tournaments - are they not supposed to talk to each other outside of lessons? Pretend they don't know each other at the field?

Quite honestly, I'd be more worried about my daughter if she DIDN'T talk to these girls - not to mention disappointed in her behavior.

 

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I am shocked that this is even a question........... - I guess I don't get it. Of course they should talk to kids from a former team! What makes the game memorable are the relationships made - those last for life. I have coached in four organizations and have friends in all 4 and others - as does my dd - am I missing something?

 

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An open letter to all softball coaches:

Coach,

The next team you play is going to attempt to get batters on base and then they are going to try to move them around until they score. When they are in the field they are going to try to get your batters out. 3 of them per inning to be exact, and preferably before they are able get on base. If you do get a runner on base they are going to try to prevent you from moving them around the bases.

Now you know what every team you play is going to try to do. Unfortunately they also know what you are going to try to do. It's ok though, you no longer have to worry about any of your players or their parents spilling the beans.

Best of luck this spring and summer,

Mike

 

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Sounds More like An Adult Issue? rather than a DD issue?

 

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You are very correct Pinkys Mom you and your Daughter are what travel ball is all about. We train with her on Mondays. On Tuesdays we train other aspects of her game with other players. We have made great friends with parents and other top knotch players.
And make no mistake about it. Every kid we train with will do there best to either stike them out,tag them out or hit deep off of them. Trust me these kids know there job come gametime.
And after the game they shake hands and wait for the next time. Its the parents and or coaches making the big deal. The real players leave it on the field
You'all should do the same.

 

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Why can't Fast pitch be like the good ole days of men's slow pitch. On the field we are enemies, then we drink a few cold ones after the game together? After all, it is a game. Don't pro athletes hang together and have fun. Better yet, congratulate each other after a game?

 

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Why can't Fast pitch be like the good ole days of men's slow pitch. On the field we are enemies, then we drink a few cold ones after the game together? After all, it is a game. Don't pro athletes hang together and have fun. Better yet, congratulate each other after a game?

They cant! Too many secrets would be passed back and forth!

 

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My DD gave away the password and secret handshake that gets her into the practice facility. She is now on Double Secret Probation.

 

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My DD gave away the password and secret handshake that gets her into the practice facility. She is now on Double Secret Probation.

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C'mon, Frank...we know which family member of yours is all mouth. And it ain't Em.

 

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This thread is almost as bad as " Would Chuck Norris wear a mask":yahoo:

 

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This thread is almost as bad as " Would Chuck Norris wear a mask":yahoo:

I appreciate your humble opinion, but I beg to differ...unless you were referring to Chuck Norris as BAAAAD...then I would agree.